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Hello!

I was reading a lot of posts here in the forum, and I read that a lot of people here has receive or hear messages from their god or gods.

I am wondering, how do you get the messages, do you use tarot or other divination tools? Or you do some kind of ritual or meditation?

I'm still looking for my patron gods, I'm researching and learning to know if I'm connected to anyone, but when I do, I want to know if they are open to me or not, I want to hear them, strength my relation to them too.

TC is unusual in that there are number of members who are vocal about their deity connections.  It's not a common thing at all - there are many more pagans that do not have direct deity contact than there are who do.

Oh I see. I was reading the post about prohibitions and a lot of people told that they were told not to do things and such.

Well, I will try first to know about gods, and then try to make a connection, but dunno how. But one step at a time

Hello!

I was reading a lot of posts here in the forum, and I read that a lot of people here has receive or hear messages from their god or gods.

I am wondering, how do you get the messages, do you use tarot or other divination tools? Or you do some kind of ritual or meditation?

I'm still looking for my patron gods, I'm researching and learning to know if I'm connected to anyone, but when I do, I want to know if they are open to me or not, I want to hear them, strength my relation to them too.

So far, Asherah only "said" something to me once and that was simply her name. I don't seem to really hear her as much as I get feelings. That was one of the things that after hearing her name, I started searching for her and couldn't get enough of her stories and such. I don't know if I would call her my Patron or not just yet, but we are working on it.
I shy away from actually declaring a Patron just yet because I am also interested in Kemetic Gods (always have been Asherah just shorta threw me for a loop because I knew nothing of her.)

Just take your time... I've been practicing about 4 years and just now got a name

Hello!

I was reading a lot of posts here in the forum, and I read that a lot of people here has receive or hear messages from their god or gods.

I am wondering, how do you get the messages, do you use tarot or other divination tools? Or you do some kind of ritual or meditation?

I'm still looking for my patron gods, I'm researching and learning to know if I'm connected to anyone, but when I do, I want to know if they are open to me or not, I want to hear them, strength my relation to them too.

 Mostly divination and meditation, though sometimes I focus on feelings I get when I talk to them, hah. I don't seem to actually really "hear" them often and the last time I ever heard anything, I was kind of half-asleep at the time or possibly dreaming. One of the two.

Hello!

I was reading a lot of posts here in the forum, and I read that a lot of people here has receive or hear messages from their god or gods.

I am wondering, how do you get the messages, do you use tarot or other divination tools? Or you do some kind of ritual or meditation?

I'm still looking for my patron gods, I'm researching and learning to know if I'm connected to anyone, but when I do, I want to know if they are open to me or not, I want to hear them, strength my relation to them too.

Meditations and dreams, mostly.
 
The best way I can describe it is that your imagination can become disobedient to you when you're thwapped. For example, you set up a nice meditation area and some time to do just that...a pre-recorded soothing voice is guiding you through meditation, telling you to relax, that there's nowhere that you need to be and nothing that you need to do... that you're walking down a flight of steps into the darkness...there is nothing but the sound of the narrator's voice...

"It's about time you paid me a visit."

That's not the narrator's voice. It might be your voice, but it doesn't sound like your voice. So, you ignore it and focus on something else.

"No, wait, where are you going this time? Oh, come on!"

It might not even be a voice as in accented words that should be going through your ears, but halfway between audible and interpretive-emotional. They don't say "Oh, come on!" but you would feel an impatience that isn't quite yours, if you can understand this.

So, the soothing meditative voice continues that you're in a tunnel underground when you see a door. This is a door to your past life.

"You will forget this nonsense and come with me because there is something I want you to do in your present life!"

The door disappears and you're out in a sunny field somewhere. The soothing meditation says, "Open the door slowly..." but you can't anymore because the door is not in your mind anymore, and the tunnel isn't in your mind anymore. An owl alights on your shoulder, which is unreasonable because in your mind it's the middle of the day. It's unfortunate that you try to be reasonable about this, because you weren't expecting a person so Athena (for example) didn't come to you as a person. You thought it was possible to regress to a past life as an animal maybe--so Athena appears to you as an animal.

So you go for several sessions like this believing that you were an owl in your past life.

Some nights later, in a dream, an owl turns into a woman and starts talking to you very sternly. When you wake up, you forget the words and can only remember the sternness.

Some days later, you're meditating about a river and the woman from your dream sits beside you. If you can take care to notice her, She might then blurt out, "Change your major." Which might have been a concern but was never an option because you're afraid to tell your parents that the career tract they wanted for you to go to university, that they're funding, isn't working out. You figured you could stick it out regardless and just live your own life when their disappointment won't put you in a very bad position. But her encouraging presence gives you the courage to get you thinking more seriously about how to do this.

A few years later, you've changed your major, your parents weren't too upset, you were much happier than you thought you could be from just sticking it out, and the very helpful imaginary friend in your meditation and dreams earns the name Alethia because you read it in a philosophy textbook and it sounded pretty. The woman in the meditation just smiles at that because it doesn't really matter to her what her name is. If you're psychically inclined, you might consider this the guidance of a type of Jungian Anima, or a guardian angel.

Years after that, a significant other drags you to an art museum on a date, and you come across a statue or something of Athena with an owl. A certainty clicks into place somewhere deep in your mind, and you slap your forehead for not having seen it before. Your mind's eye reviews the past life meditation, the river meditation, and creates a simultaneous memory of the museum you're presently standing in--with one alteration, that of a woman who doesn't physically exist standing beside the statue and looking very pleased with Herself.


It doesn't have to take years, but I know that my own reasoning gets in the way a lot of the time, and sometimes the gods themselves are okay with your observing the mystery.

By no means is this the only way, either. It could be a lot of lucky coincidences, or it could remain a formless feeling without any actual theophany. Sort of like how you could be watching a television series and think of a friend who would really enjoy it because the dialogue is witty in a way you don't personally get but you know it is your friend's sense of humor, or the main character has the same insecurities--that sense of "friend-ness likeness". The friend isn't present, but the concepts are. So, you could go to one library and get this sense that a very large and intense and wise and feminine presence is there, and sort of pray in your mind, "Greetings, Athena" but you can go to another library with equally studious people and for whatever reason She has not graced her blessing upon that place.

At least, that's been my experience. Not with Athena, but...something like that. I hope this helps!

Hello!

I was reading a lot of posts here in the forum, and I read that a lot of people here has receive or hear messages from their god or gods.

I am wondering, how do you get the messages, do you use tarot or other divination tools? Or you do some kind of ritual or meditation?

I'm still looking for my patron gods, I'm researching and learning to know if I'm connected to anyone, but when I do, I want to know if they are open to me or not, I want to hear them, strength my relation to them too.

 
I don't think that straight up hearing clear messages is how it works for most people. In my case for example, the closest I got was just a strong feeling that I had to do something or that they were pleased or not about an offering or something like that. Otherwise, I'd just get little signs.

It's different for everyone else so you should do what works for you, whether that's paying attention to your surroundings for hints, divination methods you're into, meditation, whatever.

These things might just depend of the person and the deity in question. Some gods may be more inclined to be vocal than others and they may seek out the worshiper, but it can happen the other way around too. I have read of certain gods being more quiet, Nebt-het and Amun being a few examples, so some gods may be more subtle in their approach. Other deities may prefer dreams or divination or synchronicity or whatever methods. It also may be easier for certain people to push aside doubt and other blockages when dreaming and the deity is able to communicate easier and more freely that way. I would go slow and not push anything. If you have a deity you are wanting to build a relationship with, perhaps talk to them and let them know you are open and willing to hear from them and see what if anything occurs. Some deities may be more subtle, some may be very obvious. You could try methods as well, such as meditation, recording your dreams, divination, etc to see if one is better or easier for you and the deity to communicate. Over time, with patience, you should get some sort of progress or clue regarding the deity (either the start of a relationship or not). Though not all people have these sorts of things, so the lack of them shouldn't be something to worry about. It could take months or years to get to a point where interaction is made known in such a way. It's different for everyone and how a deity may interact with person A, doesn't mean they'll interact the same way with person B.

 
I definitely have found, in my personal experience, that the gods respond best when I have prepared a visualization based meditation that arranges a setting in which a certain god would be most at home in. Even though I have had both Hecate and Artemis make their presence known in circumstances that seem to not be directly related to their mythos, when I started out it seemed I had the strongest responses to both of them when I either entered an cave, or a woodland glen. But both of the goddesses react differently - and typically I feel like they don't always communicate via speech.

But most often, when I let my mind go properly, unhinged by the minutiae of the day, thats when they surprise me the most. But I find this state of clarity hard to obtain, so I generally try to do a self guided visualization to invite the god in.

Hello!

I was reading a lot of posts here in the forum, and I read that a lot of people here has receive or hear messages from their god or gods.

I am wondering, how do you get the messages, do you use tarot or other divination tools? Or you do some kind of ritual or meditation?

I'm still looking for my patron gods, I'm researching and learning to know if I'm connected to anyone, but when I do, I want to know if they are open to me or not, I want to hear them, strength my relation to them too.

 
I have long wanted to here Isis say hello back. I know she hears me and I 'feel' her responses but if I ever heard her I'd bounce back and forth between ecstasy and terror

maybe some day

Foxface