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Author Topic: Worship of sea deities when not living near the sea?  (Read 2636 times)

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Worship of sea deities when not living near the sea?
« on: August 06, 2014, 11:39:45 am »
Hello! So I was researching a sea god, and thinking about sea gods in general, too. And doing that brought me me to this question: Do people who live no where near the ocean worship sea deities, and if so, how?

And with that question, a thread idea was made.

Anyone want to answer?

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Re: Worship of sea deities when not living near the sea?
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2014, 12:55:22 pm »
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Hello! So I was researching a sea god, and thinking about sea gods in general, too. And doing that brought me me to this question: Do people who live no where near the ocean worship sea deities, and if so, how?

And with that question, a thread idea was made.

Anyone want to answer?

 
I struggled with this when I moved away from the Virgin Islands back to Charlotte, 4 hours from the nearest beach. With Manannan having a major role in my life, to an extent that I'm not sure it's OK to go into much depth talking about, I was at a loss, and I felt disconnected. Then I went to an event in uptown that was way too crowded and way too loud and triggered my social anxiety all to hell, and I ended up escaping for a little while to go sit outside in the rain, and he threw a light bulb at me. I'm not sure how much of it I'm allowed to talk about publicly, but basically the ocean and the rain are the same water.
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Re: Worship of sea deities when not living near the sea?
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2014, 03:21:49 pm »
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basically the ocean and the rain are the same water.


Indeed.

Of all my spiritual stuff the only thing I have any assurance about is the presence of Manannan. Not in a "god phone" type of way, but its there none the less. I live 5 hours away from the ocean, and as much as I miss the smell, feel and taste of Vancouvers Ocean air, I can still sense that same thing here when it rains. Sometimes in the river as well.

I think sea deities may be basically connected to water period.
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Re: Worship of sea deities when not living near the sea?
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2014, 04:07:27 pm »
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I think sea deities may be basically connected to water period.

 
Indeed. Doubly so for those deities who also have weather connections, such as Manannán (the Manx tales have him controlling the mists and rains as well as being responsible for keeping the Isle of Man from sinking beneath the waves so long as the rent is paid). I started my worship of MML when I was living near the ocean. Now I'm in a desert climate and over two hours away from the ocean. The nearby river only connects to the ocean by way of the water cycle since it gets re-routed into canals to serve as water supply further south of me, but that water cycle matters. The supply of water is finite, so the rain is former ocean water just as the ocean is former rain. Ditto the clouds. And the breeze that blows, no matter how far away from the ocean, touched one somewhere along the line.

So how to honor an ocean god while inland? See if there's a local body of water that can stand in place of the ocean and reach out to Him there. Incorporate sea shells into your altar decor (allowing for what you can get away with, since I recall your post about practicing on the sly due to parental sentiment). Research the ocean and water cycle. See Him in the weather, especially the clouds and rain but even the sunny days.

Thank you for posting this, by the way, Maria. I'm having to tell myself all of this as much as suggesting it to you, as what feels like an exile from Him gets longer and drier thanks to where I'm living and the vagaries of the weather.

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Re: Worship of sea deities when not living near the sea?
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2014, 04:46:32 pm »
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Hello! So I was researching a sea god, and thinking about sea gods in general, too. And doing that brought me me to this question: Do people who live no where near the ocean worship sea deities, and if so, how?

 
I still worked with sea gods when I lived in the desert. I brought sea water and sand and shells back from the shore when I was able to go to anchor my altar, made use of bodies of water from the man-made lake to the pool when I needed to, and even prayed in the shower. It was definitely... well, neither Tien Hou nor Ran was particularly _loud_ in the desert. But it worked until I moved. I still don't live on the shore, but I'm much closer now and I live just a few minutes from a major river that runs to the ocean, so the connection is easier to maintain.
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Re: Worship of sea deities when not living near the sea?
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2014, 04:50:49 pm »
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Indeed. Doubly so for those deities who also have weather connections, such as Manannán (the Manx tales have him controlling the mists and rains as well as being responsible for keeping the Isle of Man from sinking beneath the waves so long as the rent is paid). I started my worship of MML when I was living near the ocean. Now I'm in a desert climate and over two hours away from the ocean. The nearby river only connects to the ocean by way of the water cycle since it gets re-routed into canals to serve as water supply further south of me, but that water cycle matters. The supply of water is finite, so the rain is former ocean water just as the ocean is former rain. Ditto the clouds. And the breeze that blows, no matter how far away from the ocean, touched one somewhere along the line.

So how to honor an ocean god while inland? See if there's a local body of water that can stand in place of the ocean and reach out to Him there. Incorporate sea shells into your altar decor (allowing for what you can get away with, since I recall your post about practicing on the sly due to parental sentiment). Research the ocean and water cycle. See Him in the weather, especially the clouds and rain but even the sunny days.

Thank you for posting this, by the way, Maria. I'm having to tell myself all of this as much as suggesting it to you, as what feels like an exile from Him gets longer and drier thanks to where I'm living and the vagaries of the weather.

 
Thanks for the information :)

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Re: Worship of sea deities when not living near the sea?
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2014, 04:52:16 pm »
Quote from: Maria_Manannan;154955
Hello! So I was researching a sea god, and thinking about sea gods in general, too. And doing that brought me me to this question: Do people who live no where near the ocean worship sea deities, and if so, how?

And with that question, a thread idea was made.

Anyone want to answer?

 

When I moved away from the ocean, I felt as though I had lost something wild and free and beautiful. The ocean was so alive, so great, so terrible and I loved it so much. Now I live in the mountains and they are lovely, but so quiet and so old. I miss the constant motion of the sea.

But like others have mentioned, I reclaimed a little bit of that wonder when I went up to the lake and splashed about a bit. It felt like home. I think that as long as you can take part in the water cycle somewhat, then you can still be close to water deities.

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Re: Worship of sea deities when not living near the sea?
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2014, 03:12:30 am »
Quote from: Maria_Manannan;154955
Hello! So I was researching a sea god, and thinking about sea gods in general, too. And doing that brought me me to this question: Do people who live no where near the ocean worship sea deities, and if so, how?

And with that question, a thread idea was made.

Anyone want to answer?

 
As it's been said, having items that invoke imagery of the sea is always helpful (sand, shells, candles that have ocean-themed scents, and tools in shades of blue, green, and purple). You can also get apps on your phone or just listen to the sound of the waves moving over the shore online in YouTube.

The Sea's energy is with you wherever you go - so are your deities. It is harder to practice without being close, but if you allow yourself to feel that connection, your distance won't matter.
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Re: Worship of sea deities when not living near the sea?
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2014, 01:26:04 pm »
Quote from: Maria_Manannan;154955
Hello! So I was researching a sea god, and thinking about sea gods in general, too. And doing that brought me me to this question: Do people who live no where near the ocean worship sea deities, and if so, how?

And with that question, a thread idea was made.

Anyone want to answer?

 
For me, there's a few different factors.  It depends on why exactly that deity is associated with the sea.  For Manannan, I felt His presence even in the middle of the US, because as others have noted His association with the rains and mist.

Njord, a sea god of Germanic origins, is associated largely with the wealth and commerce of the sea.  In Denmark, Sweden, and other Nordic countries, the sea was often the best trading route, as it did not freeze up as quick as the rivers.  Living next to the Missouri River, a big tributary of the Mississippi, the idea of water commerce is very strong here and so is Njord's presence.  I also feel Him at lakes and rivers with a lot of fishing activity; He brings up the bounty of the waters.
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Re: Worship of sea deities when not living near the sea?
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2014, 06:30:47 pm »
Quote from: Maria_Manannan;154955
And doing that brought me me to this question: Do people who live no where near the ocean worship sea deities, and if so, how?


As others have mentioned a bit, some sea deities also have other associations. Like, historically speaking, while Poseidon is god of the sea, the Greeks who lived more inland focused a bit more on some of his other roles like earthquakes, horses, and rivers to some extent.

But even beyond that, I don't think you need to live near a sea to focus on the sea aspect of a deity, if that's what you feel called to do. I guess it depends a bit on how you see deity, but I don't think deities are restricted to the areas they're associated with, while it's nice to visit those areas when you can, they're not the only places you can worship at. If you live miles away from the sea, you can still make an altar for the deity, make offerings, pray to them, meditate on the sea (perhaps with a recording of the sea, as was mentioned before), and so on.

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Re: Worship of sea deities when not living near the sea?
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2014, 09:29:11 am »
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I struggled with this when I moved away from the Virgin Islands back to Charlotte, 4 hours from the nearest beach...

 
If you can not get to the sea/ocean one way I have resolved this is if I know a person is  going to the sea I ask to bring back a bottle of seawater for me. From the times I used to go myself to the sea I have shells, sand, stones, dried  seaweeds from the seaside and an:) older bottle of seawater with some seaweed in it and a little stone seashell in it.

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Re: Worship of sea deities when not living near the sea?
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2014, 01:07:56 pm »
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Thank you for posting this, by the way, Maria. I'm having to tell myself all of this as much as suggesting it to you, as what feels like an exile from Him gets longer and drier thanks to where I'm living and the vagaries of the weather.

 
Hey! I'm actually from Taft, though I'm currently going to school in San Diego. Howdy, neighbor!

Personally, when I'm in the middle of the desert I've tended to connect to Manannan through dreams. Every once in a while I go to sleep listening to ocean sounds, focus on the sea imagery, try to imagine myself at the beach, and then I feel connected. I would suggest trying that.

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Re: Worship of sea deities when not living near the sea?
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2014, 03:19:18 pm »
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Hey! I'm actually from Taft, though I'm currently going to school in San Diego. Howdy, neighbor!

 
Hello there! :)

One thing I forgot to mention when I first posted in this thread is something I was told as far as a sea god's presence is concerned. Scientifically speaking, the liquid in our blood has the same balance of minerals as ancient seawater. We carry the ocean in our bodies, in other words. So the gods of the sea are just as close as close can be no matter what.

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Re: Worship of sea deities when not living near the sea?
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2014, 12:58:21 am »
Quote from: Maria_Manannan;154955
Hello! So I was researching a sea god, and thinking about sea gods in general, too. And doing that brought me me to this question: Do people who live no where near the ocean worship sea deities, and if so, how?

And with that question, a thread idea was made.

Anyone want to answer?

The only sea god I have experience with is Poseidon.  I live about an hour from the ocean, however, I don't feel my proximity makes a difference in my experience of Him, which has been mostly in my home and not at the ocean.  That said, not only is He Lord of salt water but freshwater too.  And, well, water makes up my body and flows through my veins... Food for thought!

But regardless... in my experience and my opinion, the gods are not limited to to realms They govern/what humanity has recognized or "assigned" to Them.  Emotional barricades we erect against Them, maybe, like when life becomes too chaotic.  Or Them needing to pull back so we can learn a lesson. Again, maybe.
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Re: Worship of sea deities when not living near the sea?
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2014, 10:18:13 pm »
Quote from: Maria_Manannan;154955
Hello! So I was researching a sea god, and thinking about sea gods in general, too. And doing that brought me me to this question: Do people who live no where near the ocean worship sea deities, and if so, how?

And with that question, a thread idea was made.

Anyone want to answer?

 
I agree with what others have said about connecting to sea deities through water in general. I'm drawn to certain sea deities, and I connect with them mostly around lakes, because those are what I have access to. I live in a big city on a lake, though admittedly I don't live anywhere near the waterfront and rarely go that way, but I do like going to small towns on lakes, with beaches, boats, shells, and rocks by the water. It gives a nicer impression than a city waterfront with industry and airports by the lake, anyway. I've had really intense feelings of being connected to Aphrodite on the beaches of Lake Huron, so I don't think she's limited to the Mediterranean, and I don't think other sea or ocean deities would be restricted, either.

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