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Author Topic: Ritual timing problems: how to make amends?  (Read 1886 times)

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Ritual timing problems: how to make amends?
« on: July 21, 2016, 06:18:19 pm »
I'll skip over any personal rambling for now and just ask the question: if you have a time-sensitive regular ritual and it gets preempted by life, how do you make up for it in your practice? Do you reschedule somehow? Do a separate ritual meant as an apology to the Powers involved? Something else entirely?

This is immediately relevant to me, but I thought it might also be a useful topic in general.
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Re: Ritual timing problems: how to make amends?
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2016, 06:34:56 pm »
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I'll skip over any personal rambling for now and just ask the question: if you have a time-sensitive regular ritual and it gets preempted by life, how do you make up for it in your practice? Do you reschedule somehow? Do a separate ritual meant as an apology to the Powers involved? Something else entirely?

This is immediately relevant to me, but I thought it might also be a useful topic in general.

 
 I reschedule for soon if it's important, but if skippable, just a quick, 'hey sorry that didn't work out, next (week/month/holiday or whatever), then.' A bit extra in offering in either case would not be amiss.

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Re: Ritual timing problems: how to make amends?
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2016, 01:35:53 am »
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I'll skip over any personal rambling for now and just ask the question: if you have a time-sensitive regular ritual and it gets preempted by life, how do you make up for it in your practice? Do you reschedule somehow? Do a separate ritual meant as an apology to the Powers involved? Something else entirely?

This is immediately relevant to me, but I thought it might also be a useful topic in general.

 
It tends to depend on why I missed it. If there's an emergency, or if there's something out of my control (which generally means baby) then it's less a matter of apologizing and more adaptation + make up what I can.

For example I do a daily offering after the baby goes to bed, but sometimes the baby doesn't sleep until late enough that I really need to be in bed myself or something, and so my powers know this is a thing that can happen. I do double the next night, or I do an abbreviated ritual entirely in astral or something.

If it's more like I forgot, or I had an executive function fail and just didn't do it, then yeah, apologizing is in order, often with an extra offering, and again I make up what I can.
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Re: Ritual timing problems: how to make amends?
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2016, 09:44:35 am »
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if you have a time-sensitive regular ritual and it gets preempted by life, how do you make up for it in your practice?

That depends on the nature of the time-sensitive ritual.

If the skipped ritual is a Roman style sacrifice of vegetables, I begin next ritual with an extra piaculum, in order to satisfy for my neglect last time.

If the skipped ritual has to do with planetary hours, i just await the second-best or third best: Another planetary hour of the same nature (either in the correct weekday or in another weekday), preferrably followed up one week later in the correct day and hour. This under the conditions that none of the alternatives occur under very bad planetary aspects.

If the skipped ritual has to do with a particular egregore, I just re-schedule it to another convenient time: It is better to perform it regularly than wait all the time to the next time-sensitive time occurs.

My Druidry is both time-sensitive and not. I observe the exact hour and minute of solstices and equinoxes, but extend the celebration of the eight annual festivals into fortnight-long seasons including symbolically significant moon phases, symbolically significant times of the day or night, and the days the Sun is present tropically in 14°-15° Taurus, Leo, Scorpio and Aquarius, respectively.
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Re: Ritual timing problems: how to make amends?
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2016, 02:00:22 pm »
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I'll skip over any personal rambling for now and just ask the question: if you have a time-sensitive regular ritual and it gets preempted by life, how do you make up for it in your practice? Do you reschedule somehow? Do a separate ritual meant as an apology to the Powers involved? Something else entirely?

This is immediately relevant to me, but I thought it might also be a useful topic in general.

 
I don't have a lot of 'must do' things in my practice, however I do try to celebrate the Sabbats.  I am absolutely horrible with time...there are days where I couldn't tell you (without looking it up) what day of the week it is, and I almost never remember what day of the month it is.

So often, unless my larger group is doing something to celebrate, the dates sneak up on me.  I feel that it is more important for me to take a moment (even if it is just adding into my nightly meditation after I am in bed) to honor the time than it is for me to do it as the 'right' time.

I am very fluid when it comes to when I celebrate things, both mundanely and religiously. Hubby has a bizarre work schedule, so things like birthdays are almost never celebrated on the date.  And in my Pagan group, we live a bit spread out and with work and medical schedules we tend to plan events on the weekend closest to whatever the actual date is.

I do make my apologies when I have made a commitment and don't make it, for any reason.  I will apologize to a group if there are other people involved or to the deities I promised if it was a personal thing.  Even if it was something completely out of my control (like a medical emergency), I still feel that for me, it is a sign of respect to let the other parties know that I am sorry I couldn't make it.  If it was purely on me, like I just forgot, then I will try to make sure that I don't forget the next thing.

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