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Rose Wood (Not "Rosewood") Magical Properties?
« on: December 07, 2012, 09:35:13 pm »
I am setting out to make a wand from wood cut from a rose bush.  However, I cannot find any existing lore on this.  I can use lore relating to rose petals, or to essential oils, but there is nothing written anywhere that I can find about Rose as a material.

I can find Rosewood, but Rosewood is a very different set of plants than roses are.  Is it just one of those things where because "Rosewood" is so connected in our heads to the idea of "Roses" that they have the same properties from a magical standpoint?  I have not worked with Rose enough to get any kind of UPG for it.
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Re: Rose Wood (Not "Rosewood") Magical Properties?
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2012, 10:08:32 pm »
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I can use lore relating to rose petals, or to essential oils, but there is nothing written anywhere that I can find about Rose as a material.

 
This is total UPG, but I associate rose with protection. I mean, have you ever tried walking through a thicket of rose bushes?

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Re: Rose Wood (Not "Rosewood") Magical Properties?
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2012, 07:43:55 am »
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This is total UPG, but I associate rose with protection. I mean, have you ever tried walking through a thicket of rose bushes?

Same here -- because of the thorns.
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Re: Rose Wood (Not "Rosewood") Magical Properties?
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2012, 08:28:49 am »
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This is total UPG, but I associate rose with protection. I mean, have you ever tried walking through a thicket of rose bushes?

 
Thirded.  Incredibly protective plant in terms of both physical presence and the energy of it.

My experience with rose wood is that it works well to harden soft emotional states.  For example, if you're feeling sentimental about a person or situation that is no longer beneficial to you. UPG, of course, for what it's worth.
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Re: Rose Wood (Not "Rosewood") Magical Properties?
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2012, 12:40:38 pm »
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My experience with rose wood is that it works well to harden soft emotional states.  For example, if you're feeling sentimental about a person or situation that is no longer beneficial to you. UPG, of course, for what it's worth.

 
One might say that the plant teaches lessons of practicality, or "get your head out of the clouds and into the real world".  The gorgeous, showy flowers draw us in and make us giddy, kind of like first love. But when we meet the rest of the plant we see the thorns. Not every love is perfect, and nothing in life is all rose petals and unicorns and rainbows.

Also, if one gets in too deep with rose, one might find themselves stuck. I have literally had to cut myself out of rose thickets before, after I became snagged up by all the thorns. The same can be said for blackberry and raspberry. All these plants have something that might draw us in, but then try and keep us forever.

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Re: Rose Wood (Not "Rosewood") Magical Properties?
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2012, 09:33:25 pm »
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One might say that the plant teaches lessons of practicality, or "get your head out of the clouds and into the real world".  The gorgeous, showy flowers draw us in and make us giddy, kind of like first love. But when we meet the rest of the plant we see the thorns. Not every love is perfect, and nothing in life is all rose petals and unicorns and rainbows.

Also, if one gets in too deep with rose, one might find themselves stuck. I have literally had to cut myself out of rose thickets before, after I became snagged up by all the thorns. The same can be said for blackberry and raspberry. All these plants have something that might draw us in, but then try and keep us forever.

 
Oh yes, thank you everyone!  I am seeing some cool stuff in this.  Makes me think of the wisdom that we must take the bad with the good, but also conversely, that there is beauty to be found even in the thorniest spots.  

Rose is one of our most well known symbols of beauty, and femininity, but it also knows how to protect itself, so it's not the "weak" stereotype of what "feminine" means.
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Re: Rose Wood (Not "Rosewood") Magical Properties?
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2012, 10:03:11 am »
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Rose is one of our most well known symbols of beauty, and femininity, but it also knows how to protect itself, so it's not the "weak" stereotype of what "feminine" means.

 
Definitely not.  My personal shield is one of rose thorns.
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Re: Rose Wood (Not "Rosewood") Magical Properties?
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2012, 11:09:28 am »
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I am setting out to make a wand from wood cut from a rose bush.  However, I cannot find any existing lore on this.  I can use lore relating to rose petals, or to essential oils, but there is nothing written anywhere that I can find about Rose as a material.

I can find Rosewood, but Rosewood is a very different set of plants than roses are.  Is it just one of those things where because "Rosewood" is so connected in our heads to the idea of "Roses" that they have the same properties from a magical standpoint?  I have not worked with Rose enough to get any kind of UPG for it.

 
Hmm this is just me, I tend to think of and use rose wood for protection, divination, and healing. I just say that from the energy I get from the wood when I hold it and in general most things with thorns I consider viable for protection.

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Re: Rose Wood (Not "Rosewood") Magical Properties?
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2012, 11:20:45 am »
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Oh yes, thank you everyone!  I am seeing some cool stuff in this.  Makes me think of the wisdom that we must take the bad with the good, but also conversely, that there is beauty to be found even in the thorniest spots.  

Rose is one of our most well known symbols of beauty, and femininity, but it also knows how to protect itself, so it's not the "weak" stereotype of what "feminine" means.

 
It is also a faery plant.
A red and a white rose symbolize the river of blood and tears in the fairy seership traditions.
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« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2012, 10:46:50 pm »
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It is also a faery plant.
A red and a white rose symbolize the river of blood and tears in the fairy seership traditions.

Sorry everyone. I'm unfamiliar with the terms y'all use. Like UPG for instance. I've also seen one that is whis?

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Sorry everyone. I'm unfamiliar with the terms y'all use. Like UPG for instance. I've also seen one that is whis?

 
Like this? :whis:

If so, that's one of our emoticons (whistling and gazing upward, conveying an air of fake innocence).  It sounds like whatever device you're using to log into TC doesn't render emoticons as smiley-pictures (hmm, or are you visually-impaired and using a screen reader?), but instead just gives the text characters of its code.

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Re: Rose Wood (Not "Rosewood") Magical Properties?
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Sorry everyone. I'm unfamiliar with the terms y'all use. Like UPG for instance. I've also seen one that is whis?

 
UPG stands for "Unverified Personal Gnosis." It refers to information about our religions, our gods, magic, etc, that do not come from established lore, or mythology.  It's something you just KNOW, either intuitively, or because your god(s) told you so.  Being personal gnosis, it is true for you and your practices, but need not carry over into anyone else's.  Others may be able to explain it better.
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