Protection from a nighttime "watcher"?

[Aster Breo]

Have all three or even just two of you been in the room with them or been together and heard them? Have any of you ever been in different rooms and heard them coming from the same area of the house at about the same time?

Moxie and I have both heard it at the same time while we were in the same room.  We're not sure if we've ever heard the same thing at the same time while I different rooms, but we think we have.

[RandallS]

Moxie and I have both heard it at the same time while we were in the same room.  We're not sure if we've ever heard the same thing at the same time while I different rooms, but we think we have.

This means that it is unlikely to be targeting one specific person -- at least in a nasty way (by being only noticeable to that person even when others are around). This means it is less likely you have something actively nasty on your hands.

[Aster Breo]

This means that it is unlikely to be targeting one specific person -- at least in a nasty way (by being only noticeable to that person even when others are around). This means it is less likely you have something actively nasty on your hands.

Well, that's good!

So, do you think the watcher and the noises and the things going missing are all related?  I've been thinking of them as independent phenomena with different causes.  Although, thinking about it, I guess I'm not really sure why...

[RandallS]

So, do you think the watcher and the noises and the things going missing are all related?  I've been thinking of them as independent phenomena with different causes.  Although, thinking about it, I guess I'm not really sure why...

I would say it is at least somewhat probable that they are related. Coincidence isn't impossible, of course.

[Laveth]

Well, that's good!

So, do you think the watcher and the noises and the things going missing are all related?  I've been thinking of them as independent phenomena with different causes.  Although, thinking about it, I guess I'm not really sure why...

 
The noises and missing things reminds me of the Fae issue I had awhile back. I ended up having to set up an outside play-area for them so they would leave my husband's cigarettes and my keys alone (sometimes they still come back in when I don't give them enough treats).

Perhaps you've attracted the attention of the Kindly Ones?

[SkySamuelle]

The noises and missing things reminds me of the Fae issue I had awhile back. I ended up having to set up an outside play-area for them so they would leave my husband's cigarettes and my keys alone (sometimes they still come back in when I don't give them enough treats).

Perhaps you've attracted the attention of the Kindly Ones?

 
At this point, I would try bribery, whether it is fae or an housespirit trying to draw attention... even just to see IF you get a different response than you got with attempts at 'evicting' the watcher... it might give you a better idea of what/who is at play.

[Laveth]

At this point, I would try bribery, whether it is fae or an housespirit trying to draw attention... even just to see IF you get a different response than you got with attempts at 'evicting' the watcher... it might give you a better idea of what/who is at play.

 

I've never really found bribery to work with the Fae to be honest. Mostly, they only work with me when I explain to them the situation and offer them an alternative to choose at their discretion (ie. bribery, in my perception, lacks the element of respect the Fae seem to require).

It might be something to ponder. I've never read or heard anything that ties Shadow People into being a species of Fae, but (as mentioned earlier) they may be unrelated phenomena.

Sometimes, just to identify if there are Fae nearby, you can set up a time to make a 'play date' with them in your home. Small bells can attract them, shiny objects (costume jewelry), rocks, plants, a small bowl of water, etc.. and an invitation for any local Fae to join you for the 30 minutes or so may bring them into your awareness (by sight, feel, or sound).

Might be worth a try.

[moxietoxic]

Well, that's good!

So, do you think the watcher and the noises and the things going missing are all related?  I've been thinking of them as independent phenomena with different causes.  Although, thinking about it, I guess I'm not really sure why...

 
I'm with Aster on this one. The things going missing and hearing noises have been happening for as long as I can remember. While the watcher has just shown up relatively recently. And they don't really *feel* connected.

But I might be wrong.

[RandallS]

I'm with Aster on this one. The things going missing and hearing noises have been happening for as long as I can remember. While the watcher has just shown up relatively recently. And they don't really *feel* connected.

If one has been going on for a long time and the other just started, then you are probably right about them not being connected. Another direction to consider, was anything unusual going on at your house, in your lifes, etc. when this watcher began to make itself known?

[Annie Roonie]

I'm with Aster on this one. The things going missing and hearing noises have been happening for as long as I can remember. While the watcher has just shown up relatively recently. And they don't really *feel* connected.

But I might be wrong.

Has there been any electrical changes or new additions to the house or neighborhood? Like if a substation is nearby, has it been expanded? has a cell tower been installed somewhere close? Are new lines being installed like underground fiber optics? Is someone running a grow house or a server farm nearby?

It might be worth checking. Sometimes these things can play havoc with people who are more sensitive to frequencies. On a few debunking ghost hunter sites I've gone to it's mentioned that people often get strong uneasy or malignant feelings near big electrical equipment and misattribute it to spirits. Not that this is going on or is even true. Shoot, spirits may be effected by it too. But from personal experience, large electrical equipment or transmitters or receivers are accompanied by  feelings that are disturbing to me.

It is easy to check if you are sensitive to frequencies because you probably already know it by practical means. If you can "hear" (in quotes because it is like a combo of hearing and feeling) every plugged in or "on" device in a room if given time and inclination, even when other people can't, you're probably more sensitive to frequencies. And if you can tell the difference between a toaster and a clock radio by the sound or feeling they make when plugged in, you are IMO, super sensitive.

If you all are sensitive like this, then checking to see if there is something going down in the neighborhood might be worthwhile.

[Erinnightwalker]

Well, that's good!

So, do you think the watcher and the noises and the things going missing are all related?  I've been thinking of them as independent phenomena with different causes.  Although, thinking about it, I guess I'm not really sure why...

 
I'm going to pose a question here- could you have a spirit that just wants to be acknowledged? Maybe even worked with? Because I could see that being the case, especially if you're having a bit of a communication issue.

What has it been doing? Staring, following, and staring. Probably causing the music and TV sounds, too. That sounds an awful lot like what I used to do when I was a kid, before I got better culture coping skills. If I liked something/someone, I would stare at them and follow them around, hoping that they would break the ice instead of shy little ol' me. Or, I would find them really fascinating and stare, trying to understand through vision alone. It took a while before I realized that it freaked people the fuck out. In my mind, all I was doing was looking.

Music and TV sounds? If staring isn't getting the intended message across, it could be trying to communicate with sounds that it has seen others use. People generally pay attention to music and the TV; if it doesn't have the tools to speak effectively, it could be trying to grab attention by parroting.

You might try sitting down with a Tarot deck or other sort of talking medium and see if you can "speak" with it that way. Maybe set up some symbolic language or something like that. If it doesn't understand that what it is doing is "wrong" by human standards, then telling it off, politely or not, probably won't work. It'd be like getting angry at a friend's grandma for knitting you an ugly sweater when in their family, receiving Grandma's Ugly Sweater is a hotly contested sign of favor. The frame of reference just doesn't match up.

(I, uh, also may have asked one of my oracle decks what the heck you were dealing with. I got the Singer of the Chalice, the Singer of Healing, and Honesty, which roughly translates to love and trust and compassion, the need for healing, and a need for honesty in the situation. Make of that what you will.)

[Catherine]

I've never really found bribery to work with the Fae to be honest. Mostly, they only work with me when I explain to them the situation and offer them an alternative to choose at their discretion (ie. bribery, in my perception, lacks the element of respect the Fae seem to require).

It might be something to ponder. I've never read or heard anything that ties Shadow People into being a species of Fae, but (as mentioned earlier) they may be unrelated phenomena.

Sometimes, just to identify if there are Fae nearby, you can set up a time to make a 'play date' with them in your home. Small bells can attract them, shiny objects (costume jewelry), rocks, plants, a small bowl of water, etc.. and an invitation for any local Fae to join you for the 30 minutes or so may bring them into your awareness (by sight, feel, or sound).

Might be worth a try.

I'm sorry Laveth, but I just have to say this. The way you describe them, it sounds like the fairies that you deal with are very different from the one I deal with. Many of the things you suggest, like play areas/ play dates etc. seems like you see them as children. Maybe the ones you know are very childlike. Some of them probably are.

However, I know that if I did any of the things you recommend, I would have one pissed off fairy on my hands. She would definitely find these things to be disrespectful because she presents herself as a full grown adult, with some serious power at her disposal if she chooses to use it.

She really only wastes time on petty little pranks when she's trying to tell me that she doesn't like someone or something. It's one of her ways to give me a heads up. Like, "I'm messing with this person because there's something wrong and they're making me angry. Pay attention before it really gets ugly!"

I'm not saying you're doing it wrong. I'm just saying that I'd recommend people find out what kind of fairy they're dealing with and not just assume they're all mischievous, childlike, pranksters. Some of them are very serious most of the time, and can be kind of dangerous.

I don't think this has anything to with what's going on in Aster and Moxie's home. Just my .02 about fairies in general, based on my experience with one of them.

[RandallS]

How is the nighttime "watcher" problem doing?

[drekfletch]

So, I guess we'll have to see how things go over the next week or two...

 
Is Brigid the right variation of Hearth Goddess in your house to take an interest?  If the watching thing is disturbing your household, it could be stepping on some pretty big toes.

[Aster Breo]

Is Brigid the right variation of Hearth Goddess in your house to take an interest?  If the watching thing is disturbing your household, it could be stepping on some pretty big toes.

Yes, I've asked Brighid to help, and it seems She is doing so.

(I'm sorry I haven't posted in a while.  Haven't been feeling well.  But I really appreciate knowing y'all are still thinking of us!)

I've done 3 cleansings now, and we've put up some protection talismans, including some Brighid's crosses.  Moxie has only felt the watcher a couple of times lately, and it evidently is respecting the boundaries we put up with the talismans, so it keeps its distance.  It also takes off whenever I'm around. Daughter2 hasn't felt or seen it at all lately.

I don't think the watcher is any type of fairy, and I'm almost positive it isn't a ghost.  I think it's some kind of energy manifestation, and I think it's attracted specifically to Moxie.

But, I think we've achieved a status quo.  We'll see how it goes.

~ Aster