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Re: Protection from a nighttime "watcher"?
« Reply #45 on: September 05, 2012, 06:58:22 pm »
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We'd be grateful for any ideas.

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When you do your great big cleanse, might I suggest placing a barrier once you've cleaned, before the purification is closed? If you've just been cleansing without setting up barriers then its like mopping the floor and having dirty shoes tramped all over it- yeah, it was clean for a little while, but no one put up a "Take your $#*%$ shoes off" sign to help reinforce it so it got dirty again.

Personally, I have watchers that I know are there, though I can't see them. I don't really mind them running through the house at night (and occasionally wave when I go to pee in the middle of the night), but the bedroom is sacrosanct unless it's a Big Damn Emergency or they have been invited. This is reinforced by a foot-wide star-in-circle made from plasma-cut steel that I have hanging on my wall. (They aren't of the iron-allergic brand of faelings. [I liken them more to goblins.] But the pentacle acts as a do not trespass sign with sharp, pointy, rusty edges.) I also have a knife specifically for dealing with things that require Authority. (Which happens to be dull, pointy, and rusty. I have a Theme, I think.)

I have a meatspace friend who was having serious problems with a malevolent nighttime presence that liked sending nightmares and seemed to coalesce around her dresser. (I know it sounds weird, but I slept over and it felt like the damn thing was staring at me the whole friggin' night. I couldn't really sleep because facing it was bad, but turning your back on it was terrifying.) I was going to help her do a banish-n-cleanse, but due to timing foo I couldn't make it for a few days. So, I gave her a little bottle of Florida Water and told her to use that until I could make it. She sat the bottle on the offending dresser and hasn't seen hide nor hair of it since. It wasn't charged or spelled, just tipped out of my larger bottle. I could send you some, if you like/can't find any there. (Plus it smells goooood ^_^)
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Re: Protection from a nighttime "watcher"?
« Reply #46 on: September 05, 2012, 07:23:30 pm »
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I don't really mind them running through the house at night (and occasionally wave when I go to pee in the middle of the night), but the bedroom is sacrosanct unless it's a Big Damn Emergency or they have been invited.


*nods*
I feel just the same.
Of course there are other things around, no problem, but in my bedroom I want to be left alone.
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Re: Protection from a nighttime "watcher"?
« Reply #47 on: September 06, 2012, 06:56:31 pm »
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I did a quick but thorough salt water cleansing last night, but haven't heard from my daughters yet about whether it helped.

Any word from your daughters?
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Protection from a nighttime "watcher"?
« Reply #48 on: September 06, 2012, 07:17:27 pm »
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Any word from your daughters?

The first night seemed fine -- all quiet.

Last night, though, Moxie couldn't sleep because she kept hearing music and voices.  I wasn't feeling well, so I went to bed before everyone else and didn't hear anything.

If I'm feeling well enough, I'll do another cleansing tonight.

We're all wearing protection amulets, different kinds depending on personal preference.  Moxie and Daughter2 are both using holey stones, obsidian, and black tourmaline.  I have my evil eye bracelet, an oak pendant inscribed with a Brighid's cross, and a silver bell.  I also wear a choker of black tourmaline and obsidian beads, but that's something I wear all the time anyway.

We've ordered some iron items and a bunch of black tourmaline crystals, and we have plans to hit the herb store as soon as we can.  I really want to try the rowan berry protection charm Tana found, although I'd prefer to make it myself, rather than buy it.

So, I guess we'll have to see how things go over the next week or two...

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Re: Protection from a nighttime "watcher"?
« Reply #49 on: September 06, 2012, 08:56:53 pm »
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Last night, though, Moxie couldn't sleep because she kept hearing music and voices.

Is this something new? Or did I just miss this before?
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Protection from a nighttime "watcher"?
« Reply #50 on: September 06, 2012, 09:11:52 pm »
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Is this something new? Or did I just miss this before?

Not new, but I didn't think to mention it before.  Moxie and I often hear muffled voices and music -- like hearing a TV through the wall or floor -- but we're usually in my bedroom when we hear that.  She was hanging out in my room last night when she couldn't sleep.

I don't think she hears it in her room, so I haven't connected it to the watcher.  I'll ask her to post here when I see her later tonight.

Do you think there's a connection?
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Protection from a nighttime "watcher"?
« Reply #51 on: September 06, 2012, 09:14:29 pm »
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When you do your great big cleanse, might I suggest placing a barrier once you've cleaned, before the purification is closed?

Yes, that's what we're planning.  We're just working on assembly the tools.  Specifically, iron objects to use as wards and herbs and crystals for Moxie's charm bags.
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Re: Protection from a nighttime "watcher"?
« Reply #52 on: September 06, 2012, 11:49:34 pm »
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Not new, but I didn't think to mention it before.  Moxie and I often hear muffled voices and music -- like hearing a TV through the wall or floor -- but we're usually in my bedroom when we hear that.  She was hanging out in my room last night when she couldn't sleep.

 
Actually, it was worse last night than it has ever been. I do hear voices and music frequently, like Aster said. (almost every time I walk down the hall towards Aster's room I hear what sounds like the TV on, that high pitched TV-whine and sometimes muffled talking but it is almost never actually on)  But I can usually either ignore them and go to sleep, or they fade pretty quickly; and it usually only happens in Aster's room or in the hall directly outside her door.

I've been hearing voices or music faintly for the past few nights in a row (usually it's more come-and-go) but not so loudly or persistently that I couldn't get over them and sleep. But last night the voices and sounds were so persistent that I couldn't get to sleep.

Every time I tried settling in a room, *any* room, Aster's, my sister's (at the other end of the hall), things would be quiet for a while then I would start hearing muffled talking or music that would get louder and more persistent that I would have to leave the room. I couldn't hear what was being said (though at one point I did hear a child's voice more prominently than the others) or identify the music (all I could tell were vague characteristics: instrumental, possibly choral). I can't remember them being this bad before.

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Re: Protection from a nighttime "watcher"?
« Reply #53 on: September 07, 2012, 12:13:36 am »
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Actually, it was worse last night than it has ever been. I do hear voices and music frequently, like Aster said. (almost every time I walk down the hall towards Aster's room I hear what sounds like the TV on, that high pitched TV-whine and sometimes muffled talking but it is almost never actually on)  But I can usually either ignore them and go to sleep, or they fade pretty quickly; and it usually only happens in Aster's room or in the hall directly outside her door.

I've been hearing voices or music faintly for the past few nights in a row (usually it's more come-and-go) but not so loudly or persistently that I couldn't get over them and sleep. But last night the voices and sounds were so persistent that I couldn't get to sleep.

Every time I tried settling in a room, *any* room, Aster's, my sister's (at the other end of the hall), things would be quiet for a while then I would start hearing muffled talking or music that would get louder and more persistent that I would have to leave the room. I couldn't hear what was being said (though at one point I did hear a child's voice more prominently than the others) or identify the music (all I could tell were vague characteristics: instrumental, possibly choral). I can't remember them being this bad before.

This might be a really strange suggestion, so take it for what you will.

You (and Aster I believe?) mentioned that while the presence is creeping you out (and it would creep me out too feeling like I was watched) it hasn't tried to harm you or anyone else living in the household. In fact, Aster mentioned that when items seem to go missing, they'll often return after she (or anyone else?) asks for it to be returned.

I mean, I've not been in your house and I have very little experience with spirits myself, but I wonder if this thing is some sort of... manifestation? of the spirit of your house. It might explain why your attempts at cleansing the space only work briefly, because it's simply an appendage, if you will, of the house's spirit. I'm kind of coming from an animistic point of view here, where the house's spirit isn't exactly something that came from without, but rather developed over time from the presence of your family (especially as Aster has said your family has lived there for a very long period?). This "extending" itself may be something it's not done overtly before, and that's why it feels so foreign to be experiencing it?

I mean... it doesn't exactly explain why, for example, the house spirit decided to extend itself and play the "Let's watch Moxie to see what she's doing, and maybe her sister too" game. The only reason this idea came to me (after reading along and not having much to offer besides what has been suggested here re: cleansing and protecting) was that you two have mentioned you hear noises that one may hear around a house at any given time (but in the situations you mention, clearly no one has the tv on or has small children in the house), although lately it's gotten worse as this thing has popped up and you've begun telling it to get out.

Like I said, it's just an idea. I have no idea what you guys are experiencing in the middle of it, so I may be completely off here.
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Re: Protection from a nighttime "watcher"?
« Reply #54 on: September 07, 2012, 08:27:50 am »
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Not new, but I didn't think to mention it before.  Moxie and I often hear muffled voices and music -- like hearing a TV through the wall or floor -- but we're usually in my bedroom when we hear that.  She was hanging out in my room last night when she couldn't sleep.

I assume you've ruled out the voices/music coming from elsewhere in the house? (Example: in my house in San Antonio, you could hear the TV in my mother's room fairly clearly in one corner of the living room -- which was across the house.)

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I don't think she hears it in her room, so I haven't connected it to the watcher.  I'll ask her to post here when I see her later tonight.

If she's not hearing it where the watcher manifests, their may not be a connection. However, it is a bit of data for the puzzle.
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Re: Protection from a nighttime "watcher"?
« Reply #55 on: September 07, 2012, 06:11:25 pm »
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I assume you've ruled out the voices/music coming from elsewhere in the house? (Example: in my house in San Antonio, you could hear the TV in my mother's room fairly clearly in one corner of the living room -- which was across the house.)

If she's not hearing it where the watcher manifests, their may not be a connection. However, it is a bit of data for the puzzle.


It wasn't coming from anywhere else in the house. Grandparents were well asleep and I went and checked to make sure what my sister (daughter2) was listening to on her computer couldn't have made the sounds that I was hearing. And as I moved to different rooms it would be quiet for a while, then I would start hearing voices or music. After it got loud enough or intense enough that I felt uncomfortable staying in that room I would move to another. That happened many times, even going back into rooms I had been in before, starting again with silence.

As for hearing it where the watcher is, the being/entity/whatever it is has been moving. I have felt it in the hallway right outside Aster's room and daughter2 has been  feeling it in her room too a few times when she's tried to sleep. So maybe I am hearing them where it is, since it seems to not be just in my room anymore. *Why* it is moving, we have no idea...
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Re: Protection from a nighttime "watcher"?
« Reply #56 on: September 07, 2012, 06:35:03 pm »
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It wasn't coming from anywhere else in the house. Grandparents were well asleep and I went and checked to make sure what my sister (daughter2) was listening to on her computer couldn't have made the sounds that I was hearing. And as I moved to different rooms it would be quiet for a while, then I would start hearing voices or music. After it got loud enough or intense enough that I felt uncomfortable staying in that room I would move to another. That happened many times, even going back into rooms I had been in before, starting again with silence.

As for hearing it where the watcher is, the being/entity/whatever it is has been moving. I have felt it in the hallway right outside Aster's room and daughter2 has been  feeling it in her room too a few times when she's tried to sleep. So maybe I am hearing them where it is, since it seems to not be just in my room anymore. *Why* it is moving, we have no idea...

 
Mhhh... it seems to me that the spirit is more than anything else trying to get your attention - it started with you, and then when you tried to send it off, it extended  its attention to your sister and now sounds you used to hear increased volume... it is possible it is some kind of entity linked to househould and it noticed that the new family generation is 'more open to comunication' so it might be trying to make contact and asking to be recognized.
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Re: Protection from a nighttime "watcher"?
« Reply #57 on: September 07, 2012, 09:46:15 pm »
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It wasn't coming from anywhere else in the house. Grandparents were well asleep and I went and checked to make sure what my sister (daughter2) was listening to on her computer couldn't have made the sounds that I was hearing. And as I moved to different rooms it would be quiet for a while, then I would start hearing voices or music. After it got loud enough or intense enough that I felt uncomfortable staying in that room I would move to another. That happened many times, even going back into rooms I had been in before, starting again with silence.

Has anyone else heard it with you? No, I'm not thinking you are imagining it, I'm wondering if the entity is just moving around or moving around to follow/annoy you.
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Protection from a nighttime "watcher"?
« Reply #58 on: September 07, 2012, 10:25:03 pm »
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Has anyone else heard it with you? No, I'm not thinking you are imagining it, I'm wondering if the entity is just moving around or moving around to follow/annoy you.

Daughter2 and I have each heard the sounds independently of Moxie and of each other.

Moxie's iron pendant came today, so we'll be watching to see if that has any effect.
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Re: Protection from a nighttime "watcher"?
« Reply #59 on: September 07, 2012, 10:30:22 pm »
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Daughter2 and I have each heard the sounds independently of Moxie and of each other.

Have all three or even just two of you been in the room with them or been together and heard them? Have any of you ever been in different rooms and heard them coming from the same area of the house at about the same time?
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