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Protection from a nighttime "watcher"?
« on: August 26, 2012, 12:26:50 pm »
My daughter has been having trouble with something watching her in her bedroom, mostly at night, but other times, too.  It's been going on for a while now --  at least, a year.  She can't *see* it, and doesn't know who/what it is.  It has not tried to hurt her, but she feels threatened by it.

She's tried the standard salt water cleansing several times, as well as careful personal shielding before she goes to sleep.  The cleansing seems to help for a little while, but doesn't last.

Any suggestions?  I'm not a magic-worker, so I'm not sure what to recommend or exactly how she should proceed (the nuts and bolts, I mean).

We'd be grateful for any ideas.

Thanks!

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Re: Protection from a nighttime "watcher"?
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2012, 12:36:51 pm »
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My daughter has been having trouble with something watching her in her bedroom, mostly at night, but other times, too.  It's been going on for a while now --  at least, a year.  She can't *see* it, and doesn't know who/what it is.  It has not tried to hurt her, but she feels threatened by it.

She's tried the standard salt water cleansing several times, as well as careful personal shielding before she goes to sleep.  The cleansing seems to help for a little while, but doesn't last.

Any suggestions?  I'm not a magic-worker, so I'm not sure what to recommend or exactly how she should proceed (the nuts and bolts, I mean).

We'd be grateful for any ideas.

Thanks!

~ Aster

 
Have you tried cleansing and doing a banishing on the whole home? It may be a spirit tied to the house that has taken an interest in your daughter, it might be a tick (like a parasitic spiritual creature that tends to cause nightmares and drain energy supplies), could be a fair few things.

I tend to try to get a glimpse or divinatory insight as to what the culprit is before doing anything beyond a banishing, but it might be an idea if you're comfortable doing that (don't forget to protect yourself first).

You may also want to try going through the house, especially you're daughter's room, and looking for any object that seems to be giving off a negative vibe. Perhaps that is what it's attached to, in which case a cleansing of the object might be enough to ease the situation.

Just ideas, my experience with this kind of thing is pretty limited to things I dealt with in my teen years and not so much recently. Might be a good starting point though. :)

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Re: Protection from a nighttime "watcher"?
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2012, 12:41:43 pm »
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My daughter has been having trouble with something watching her in her bedroom, mostly at night, but other times, too.  It's been going on for a while now --  at least, a year.  She can't *see* it, and doesn't know who/what it is.  It has not tried to hurt her, but she feels threatened by it.

She's tried the standard salt water cleansing several times, as well as careful personal shielding before she goes to sleep.  The cleansing seems to help for a little while, but doesn't last.

Any suggestions?  I'm not a magic-worker, so I'm not sure what to recommend or exactly how she should proceed (the nuts and bolts, I mean).

We'd be grateful for any ideas.

Thanks!

~ Aster

 
Oh, another thing. Noted you're not a magic-worker, not sure if that includes this or not....

You may want to consider getting a statuesque guardian for your daughter's room. It can be a statue of anything your daughter sees as a protective/guardian creature, but it does require a bit of ritualistic 'charging' before it's useful.

Basically (and you can create or look up ways to do this, or you can drop me a line if you want more clarification), you have to charge the statue with a purpose (protection) and personality (interests, likes, dislikes, behavior, etc...). Treat it like a living thing, ask it to watch over your daughter each morning and thank it at night, leave it a gift or 2 (this is what I do, other sources vary so it's worth looking into what suits you if you're interested in this method).

Ultimately, the desired end is to have the 'living statue' placed in a location in your daughter's room where it can oversee what is going on and it can act as a guardian spirit to counter any negativity that may try to enter.

Just an idea. :)

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Re: Protection from a nighttime "watcher"?
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2012, 01:05:35 pm »
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A permanent circle in her bedroom, maybe?
First cleansing, then setting wards to keep the circle up.

The wards can be bags with protective herbs, salt and/or gemstones.
I would take black tourmaline for example.

If she can imagine a shield, she should be able to imagine the connection between the wards and the circle's energy filling her room. The wards might need recharging from time to time.
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Re: Protection from a nighttime "watcher"?
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2012, 04:19:54 pm »
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My daughter has been having trouble with something watching her in her bedroom, mostly at night, but other times, too.  It's been going on for a while now --  at least, a year.  She can't *see* it, and doesn't know who/what it is.  It has not tried to hurt her, but she feels threatened by it.

She's tried the standard salt water cleansing several times, as well as careful personal shielding before she goes to sleep.  The cleansing seems to help for a little while, but doesn't last.

Any suggestions?  I'm not a magic-worker, so I'm not sure what to recommend or exactly how she should proceed (the nuts and bolts, I mean).

We'd be grateful for any ideas.

Thanks!

~ Aster

 
The first and one time I had a problem like this, I took a bowl of salt (it was not charged, but yu can ask Brighid to bless it in advance if you decide to use it) and then I proceeded to throw salt against each wall of the room -floor and ceiling included-mantra-ing 'I banish you from my space' until 'that thing ' was gone. I left the salt in place until the day after and kept the bowl of salt near me as I slept, but 'it' never returned.

I was pretty tired then, and it was the middle of the night - I did no sort of preparation and no energy raising - focused intent was enough, but I had to be careful to no get angry/annoyed because that sort of thing seems to feed off those emotions.

If cleansing with salt water has worked for a time, you may consider to give this one a shot tough- the problem seems to be that the entity always finds a way back after being sent away. It's likely it keeps coming back because your daughter discomfort feeds it so it can help if she can take awareness of this and steel herself against giving it something...focusing on just verbalizing the intent to banish it while it's possible that eventually the entity stops returning, warding the room  would be a more permanent solution.
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Re: Protection from a nighttime "watcher"?
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2012, 04:43:25 pm »
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My daughter has been having trouble with something watching her in her bedroom, mostly at night, but other times, too.  It's been going on for a while now --  at least, a year.  She can't *see* it, and doesn't know who/what it is.  It has not tried to hurt her, but she feels threatened by it.

She's tried the standard salt water cleansing several times, as well as careful personal shielding before she goes to sleep.  The cleansing seems to help for a little while, but doesn't last.

Any suggestions?  I'm not a magic-worker, so I'm not sure what to recommend or exactly how she should proceed (the nuts and bolts, I mean).

We'd be grateful for any ideas.

Thanks!

~ Aster



 http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/nightmare.html

The above link has some charms and such against night mares/visitors. Turning your shoes outward from the bottom of the bed seems to be a common one as does plugging holes in the room to trap it so that it'll beg to leave. Inviting it to come in the morning is also recommended. I don't have any idea why these would work, though.
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Re: Protection from a nighttime "watcher"?
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2012, 05:03:25 pm »
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My daughter has been having trouble with something watching her in her bedroom, mostly at night, but other times, too.  It's been going on for a while now --  at least, a year.  She can't *see* it, and doesn't know who/what it is.  It has not tried to hurt her, but she feels threatened by it.

She's tried the standard salt water cleansing several times, as well as careful personal shielding before she goes to sleep.  The cleansing seems to help for a little while, but doesn't last.

Any suggestions?  I'm not a magic-worker, so I'm not sure what to recommend or exactly how she should proceed (the nuts and bolts, I mean).

We'd be grateful for any ideas.

Thanks!

~ Aster


Just a couple of questions if you don't mind.

1. What age is your daughter?  I realize it sounds sort of sexist or worse but age can be a significant indicator.

2. Is one place more noticed than another while in the room?  One of the most common I am aware of is the mirror as a demensional gateway or portal.  The mirror acts like one of those portraits of Jesus where no matter where you are in the room the eyes seem to follow you and stare at you.

I would discourage banishings and such for it really does less than many would like in my opinion.  I can drive you out of my room but can't stop you from looking in via a window or mirror or other reflective surface.  It gives a false sense of security in my opinion for once you step outside its back.

I do agree about looking to see if there is something "new" to the room.  It's probably uncertain as to how many "guests" are brought into ones home by purchasing some item from a second hand store or flea market type setting.  Things that the spirit connected to so strongly that your not going to "exorcise it" or purify it no matter what you do.

The same thing can also happen with artifacts from ones own family heritage.  Being of the blood at times they will "watch" thier family to the point of being compulsive as it keeps them connected to the land of the living.  Even more so if there is a name sake type association between them in my experience.

One other thing to potentially consider is that of the poltergeist type persona that is believed generated by the person's own mind.  While I have never encountered one myself what i've read indicates many times they do start out as feelings of being watched or having someone invaid your personal space.  Many times in young girls between the ages of 12 - 17 as a general age bracket.  Not to say it doesn't happen to males also but most accounts seem to occur where girls are present.  About the only thing all of them had in common was that it had to wait until the child grew older to pass as nothing else worked against it.

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Re: Protection from a nighttime "watcher"?
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2012, 05:42:12 pm »
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She's tried the standard salt water cleansing several times, as well as careful personal shielding before she goes to sleep.  The cleansing seems to help for a little while, but doesn't last.

Cleanse weekly?

Has she tried simply firmly telling it to go away, quit watching her, and leave her alone? Assuming she's not scared of it (or can hide it well if she is), this will work surprising often -- although it may take a number of such "lectures" to stick.
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Re: Protection from a nighttime "watcher"?
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2012, 08:39:19 pm »
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Any suggestions?  I'm not a magic-worker, so I'm not sure what to recommend or exactly how she should proceed (the nuts and bolts, I mean).

We'd be grateful for any ideas.

Thanks!

~ Aster


If you can find some iron bits, you'll need about four, she can go into the room and ask that anything leave. Tell anything that may be there that there will be a few minutes to vacate after which items will be placed around the room and it will be very unpleasant should anything come back or stay. After this open a window if there is one and the door and wait a few minutes outside the room. Then go in with the iron and place it around the room where she feels it will sufficiently grid/encase the space. If the pieces can see one another, they can join energies and create a little safe quiet spot.

This is something I've used prior to ever knowing anything about fairies and the lore about them with iron. (Which some say works as to ward them off but others say it doesn't.) I don't know why it works but it has for me. Perhaps it is the intent with which I place the iron or maybe it is the visualization of a cage that only the people can get into and out of. Or it could be just the act of doing something that feels empowering. I don't know, but it makes for restful sleep. I don't use it unless I get that wonky feeling and I keep the iron in a box for whenever I do. I leave it there until I feel it is okay to remove it.

I've used railroad spikes, rusty old fashioned O rings also found by old railroad tracks, and old nuts and bolts and iron balls I've found on beaches.

In any event, I wish her and you luck with this. Rest is important and I know how troubling it is not to get it.

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Re: Protection from a nighttime "watcher"?
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2012, 12:35:14 am »
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One of my teacher's standard protections - and one that I have adopted somewhat, because it worked for me when I needed it - is to take a cup of water and put it by the bed.  (On the headboard, on the nightstand, whatever.  Mine is under the side of the bed - I have a platform.  The kidlet's is on the windowsill next to her bed.)

The basic idea is that many spirits are drawn to water, so if you can distract the negative ones with the water they won't bother ya when you're sleeping.  Just set out the cup of clean water - she does it every night, I do it more 'at need' though it's part of the kidlet's bedtime rituals so she gets fresh water more often - and it's good to go.  (Folk magic for the win.)

(Dump out the water after usage; if it's attracted hostile spirits you don't wanna be drinking that shit.)
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Re: Protection from a nighttime "watcher"?
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2012, 04:55:29 am »
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Has she tried simply firmly telling it to go away, quit watching her, and leave her alone? Assuming she's not scared of it (or can hide it well if she is), this will work surprising often -- although it may take a number of such "lectures" to stick.

 
I'm with Randall here.
This might as well be something that has been there before you and your family moved in, a spirit of the place for example. Simply chucking it out would feel rude and not very sensitive to me.

So my suggestion would be: Talk to it and make your point very clear. Say that your daughter feels threatened by whatever it is doing and that you will not have this any longer. Tell it that if it stops, everything will be okay, but if it doesn't, it will not be allowed to stay or to ever return. And make sure you are able to enforce that!

This worked very well with some ticks (that's the English word used here for spiritual leeches, I understand?) that were starting to get very, very nasty on me a few years ago. I finally had to throw them out, but they never even tried to return.

Wish you luck!

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Re: Protection from a nighttime "watcher"?
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2012, 07:23:37 am »
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So my suggestion would be: Talk to it and make your point very clear. Say that your daughter feels threatened by whatever it is doing and that you will not have this any longer. Tell it that if it stops, everything will be okay, but if it doesn't, it will not be allowed to stay or to ever return. And make sure you are able to enforce that!

 
This is pretty much what my sister and I did when my nephew was getting an unwanted visitor. It worked very well.

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Re: Protection from a nighttime "watcher"?
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2012, 06:06:19 pm »
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My daughter has been having trouble with something watching her in her bedroom, mostly at night, but other times, too.  It's been going on for a while now --  at least, a year.  She can't *see* it, and doesn't know who/what it is.  It has not tried to hurt her, but she feels threatened by it.

She's tried the standard salt water cleansing several times, as well as careful personal shielding before she goes to sleep.  The cleansing seems to help for a little while, but doesn't last.

Any suggestions?  I'm not a magic-worker, so I'm not sure what to recommend or exactly how she should proceed (the nuts and bolts, I mean).

We'd be grateful for any ideas.

Thanks!

~ Aster

 

How old is she? I'd check in on what makes her feel threatened.

My immediate reaction is to not necessarily get rid of it--not all things that go bump in the night are bad and some are implicitly good. We sometimes get nervous about otherwordly things being present simply because they are otherwordly and 'feel' strange. Perhaps it is something that lives in your home--and you get to decide if it stays or go, obviously, since it is your home [unless you are renting] but I might consider what it might be like to get evicted from the home I had lived in for quite awhile.

If you'd like to cleanse the room, I'd put salt [maybe mix it with some Fiery Wall of Protection sachet powder] that I had blessed in corners of the room and sprinkle the doorway and windowsills. I'd mix up 2/3 water with 1/3 Florida Water in a spray bottle and clean the door and windows with it, as well as spritz the salt. Florida Water has a strong smell, but it does the job. You could anoint your daughter with Florida Water as well. I'd also consider anointing her with a Fiery Wall of Protection oil.

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Re: Protection from a nighttime "watcher"?
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2012, 11:23:50 pm »
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Have you tried cleansing and doing a banishing on the whole home? It may be a spirit tied to the house that has taken an interest in your daughter, it might be a tick (like a parasitic spiritual creature that tends to cause nightmares and drain energy supplies), could be a fair few things.

 
On a related note about he/she/it being attached to the house made me think that research on the property could help to.  I'm not saying someone that lived in the house before you was killed because that is not always the case. I'm just saying the best way to resolve something is to fully understand the problem n the cause. It could also help narrow it down cause it might not even be the whole house. its interesting to hear that only one person can sense whatever it is.
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Re: Protection from a nighttime "watcher"?
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2012, 11:53:33 am »
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Hello all! Aster's daughter here. I didn't have an account until yesterday so I couldn't chime in for myself. Thank you all for your answers and ideas! I'll try to give some more information and I'll go through and answer some more specific questions in individual answers.

This has been going on for what feels like multiple years, though it might not actually be that long. *definitely* more than a year though. It started one night when I woke up around 4 in the morning and there was an unidentified thing between my bed and my door (the way my room is set up, by bed is across the room from my door. So when I lie in bed with my eyes open I'm, looking straight at the door.) and it scared the hell out of me. Like Aster said, I can't really see it, only feel it. Sometimes it's closer, sometimes it's farther away but it's there every night.

It feels person-shaped. Black and shadowy. I'm not quite sure where I'm getting that picture from since I can't see it. But tall black person-shaped shadow wearing a hood is the picture I always get in my mind associated with it.

And just on a side note, I'm 22 years old, if that helps. There had been some questions about my age. (that wan't supposed to sound snarky)

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