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Time and magic
« on: March 19, 2020, 04:34:19 pm »
So, I brought up a question in another thread which has rattled around the back of my mind for quite some time and the reply that came back has left me more curious.

Basically - How have you found magic relates to time?

What I'm thinking of is how some things would take a lot to happen instantly but only subtle changes to happen after a certain amount of time. So have you had an experience of magic affecting the past to cause something to work in the present; do you see it as working like this; do you feel magic can flow into the past or is constraint, like ourselves, to the present and future?
I know that, in physics, time is considered a dimension like length and height so does magic work over extra dimensions?

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Re: Time and magic
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2020, 04:37:37 pm »
Basically - How have you found magic relates to time?


Also, do you see deities, spirits, magic as being within or outside of the space/time framework?

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Re: Time and magic
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2020, 12:36:21 pm »
Basically - How have you found magic relates to time?
Also, do you see deities, spirits, magic as being within or outside of the space/time framework?
As I see it, in our universe, everything you mentioned above, dances to the rhythm of time.
And time marches on, and everything coordinates with each own rhythm of time.
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Re: Time and magic
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2020, 07:25:28 pm »
Also, do you see deities, spirits, magic as being within or outside of the space/time framework?

A lot of traditions have a concept of mythological time that works differently from historical time.

From my own practice: in Ancient Egyptian tradition, rituals and spells occur (mystically speaking) at the moment of creation. This is what allows them to shape reality.

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Re: Time and magic
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2020, 09:05:32 pm »
Basically - How have you found magic relates to time?

So, in a lot of witchcraft traditions, a cast circle is commonly described as a "a time outside of time, a space outside of space" or in similar terms. In some theories of "why do we do a circle anyway?" this is in part so you can go into that circle, make a change, and then deliberately ripple it out into the physical world with linear time and congruent spaces, to have an effect.

(Alternately, one can go back to a previous time, untangle something that got nastily tangled, and then make progress with it outside of ritual space down the road.)

I personally don't think that's a thing that happens all the time, there is a selection component to it, but that it's a very feasible approach.

Re: your later question on deities, I think that they largely progress in linear time like us, but that their sense of the passage of time is often very different from ours, and they may or may not be able to do fun loops in that linear time. Mostly, I am a fan of "If it's not linear time, let's assume it is most of the time, or my brain hurts and I can't get on with doing anything else."
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Re: Time and magic
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2020, 09:12:47 pm »
So, in a lot of witchcraft traditions, a cast circle is commonly described as a "a time outside of time, a space outside of space" or in similar terms. In some theories of "why do we do a circle anyway?" this is in part so you can go into that circle, make a change, and then deliberately ripple it out into the physical world with linear time and congruent spaces, to have an effect.

(Alternately, one can go back to a previous time, untangle something that got nastily tangled, and then make progress with it outside of ritual space down the road.)

I personally don't think that's a thing that happens all the time, there is a selection component to it, but that it's a very feasible approach.

Re: your later question on deities, I think that they largely progress in linear time like us, but that their sense of the passage of time is often very different from ours, and they may or may not be able to do fun loops in that linear time. Mostly, I am a fan of "If it's not linear time, let's assume it is most of the time, or my brain hurts and I can't get on with doing anything else."
I haven't put much thought in time but today I realised it is I am and this is manipulated. the circle of Time is round so you are at one with yourself. point being how could we free our minds of manipulated time.
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