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Re: Reiki - Questions for Practitioners
« Reply #90 on: November 02, 2012, 04:08:41 pm »
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She argued that she wasn't causing harm because "...good energy and Reiki don't hurt anyone..." but said she'd respect my wishes.  We'll see.

 
I can understand that mentality if that's how you've been taught and you've never had any experiences that contradict those teachings. You know what I don't get? Holding onto that idea when you're given proof.

I've even had people tell me that's it's my own fault that reiki doesn't work the way it should because I'm "blocked" or "too negative" or that I'm "dark" (whatever that's supposed to mean).

Anyway, good luck. I hope she does respect your wishes.

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« Reply #91 on: November 02, 2012, 04:28:41 pm »
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It sounds to me like a real world metaphor might help.

Say you've had a big disaster and your house is a horrific mess.  Asking if you need help is asking.  Showing up with trashbags and mops and letting ourselves in because you "need help " is a violation.

This sounds to us like the second with a side of "if you didn't want me to come in and clean why didn't you lock the door? "

 

Had to chuckle this morning after reading this thread and then reading this story in the paper and found this. Yup, it is a violation even without a scribbled napkin bill.

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« Reply #92 on: November 02, 2012, 04:32:54 pm »
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How do you learn to do this, if you have no RL teacher?  Is it something you can convey in writing?



I'll have to give it some thought.  As I said, I had help to do it originally, and really didn't understand what was going on.  I agreed to it because the idea of relief by any means was so attractive and I trusted the people offering.

When my shields started leaking and then broke (you may remember - it was during my guinea pig attempt and I think I talked about it as it was happening) I managed to reconnect with one of the original people who helped me.  We couldn't get together but I'm a lot more knowledgeable now and they were able to more-or-less instruct me on how to do it by myself.  

I'll see if I can reconstruct that process.  I don't want to derail this thread with it, but I can PM you what I work out if you like.  Let me know.

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Re: Reiki - Questions for Practitioners
« Reply #93 on: November 02, 2012, 07:10:50 pm »
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Reading through this whole thread...I've never had any experience with Reiki although it's certainly something I'm interested in learning for myself but reading this thread, I am terrified of the people who use (abuse) Reiki. Using Reiki on unknowing, potentially unwilling innocent people? Maybe I'm taking this too far but wouldn't that be an energy rape? Forcing your energy on me?


As I said, I've never undergone Reiki (that I know of, now that I'm paranoid) but I do get acupuncture--my acupuncturist NEVER picks up a needle until he knows every medication, injury, stress or emotion I've experienced recently (or had my whole life) and understands exactly what it is that I need to have taken care of.

Argh. Well-meaning they might be, but well-meaning people rarely do well.
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« Reply #94 on: November 02, 2012, 07:36:55 pm »
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As I said, I've never undergone Reiki (that I know of, now that I'm paranoid) but I do get acupuncture--my acupuncturist NEVER picks up a needle until he knows every medication, injury, stress or emotion I've experienced recently (or had my whole life) and understands exactly what it is that I need to have taken care of.

 
Here's a thing.  When I was being trained in reiki, I was told to always ask about medications, possible pregnancy, known conditions etc... but not told what I was supposed to do with that information!  There was, I think, something of an attitude that as long as you meant well you could just put the energy out there anyway and let the universe sort it out.  It felt a bit laissez-faire at the time in a way I was never able to properly articulate to the reiki master who taught me, but this thread has dissected it nicely.

(And yes, like a few others I'm tempted to get about with an attack shield a foot thick now, after being reminded just how much shenanigans there is in the energy 'industry'!)

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« Reply #95 on: November 02, 2012, 07:51:22 pm »
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Here's a thing.  When I was being trained in reiki, I was told to always ask about medications, possible pregnancy, known conditions etc... but not told what I was supposed to do with that information!  There was, I think, something of an attitude that as long as you meant well you could just put the energy out there anyway and let the universe sort it out.  It felt a bit laissez-faire at the time in a way I was never able to properly articulate to the reiki master who taught me, but this thread has dissected it nicely.

(And yes, like a few others I'm tempted to get about with an attack shield a foot thick now, after being reminded just how much shenanigans there is in the energy 'industry'!)

And now I'm also wondering about the effects of being a recipient of "unknown" Reiki if one also has an "unknown" tumor...
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Re: Reiki - Questions for Practitioners
« Reply #96 on: November 02, 2012, 09:42:35 pm »
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Maybe I'm taking this too far but wouldn't that be an energy rape? Forcing your energy on me?

 
I would classify someone who consistently ignored boundaries as a potential rapist.

So it's not a wholly inaccurate analogy, but I think rape should probably be reserved for specifically sexual assault.

YMMV.
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« Reply #97 on: November 02, 2012, 09:51:11 pm »
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Guys, you're really disappointing me with this tendency to overreaction.

 
It's not overreaction. You admit you regularly ignore people's boundaries and don't bother to ask for consent because you believe what you're doing is right.

Also I don't give a shit if we're 'disappointing' you. You are energetically assaulting people, by your own admission. If you can't deal with people calling out your, frankly, heinous behaviour, maybe you should stop fucking doing it.
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« Reply #98 on: November 02, 2012, 11:08:23 pm »
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And now I'm also wondering about the effects of being a recipient of "unknown" Reiki if one also has an "unknown" tumor...

 
One of the many reasons I don't use it unless asked. I was attuned to L2 reiki by an ex in an attempt to help me overcome my energy blindness and it worked to a small extent. That is, I can now call on energy to do things and I get a physical reaction (goosebumps in waves) so I know it's on. BUT... I still can't do anything much with it except use the symbols I already work with, the runes, to direct it. I only ever use it in 3 ways in fact. I help my wife when she works with energy by supplying it to her, and I empower my runes with it. If specifically asked for it I will send it to another person, but I make sure they know it's not tamed, it's not mild and it they ain't ready it'll knock them on their arse. ALL I am is a channel, that's all the L1 and L2 attunements did.

And I still can't sense anything less than 'lightning-bolt' levels. If anyone sends me stuff, I don't know about it.

Also, I have huge problems containing it when it does come. Usually I get my wife to take it and use it to strengthen the shielding on the house, car, etc.. If I'm not with her I try my best to send it straight to ground as I know I'm radiating and don't want to inadvertently affect someone. So I rarely use it at all.

Add to that an almost total inability to visualise in the normal sense meaning I've had to basically invent my own shielding methods and yeah, I don't much like unwanted 'gifts'. (I think in words, not pictures - daydreams, for example, are more like listening to an audiobook than watching a movie, if you see the analogy)
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« Reply #99 on: November 03, 2012, 03:42:36 am »
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As I said, I've never undergone Reiki (that I know of, now that I'm paranoid) but I do get acupuncture--my acupuncturist NEVER picks up a needle until he knows every medication, injury, stress or emotion I've experienced recently (or had my whole life) and understands exactly what it is that I need to have taken care of..

This is an excellent point that I hadn't thought of. My acupuncturist spends as much time talking to me about my health as she spends doing things with needles. And once I had a very strong, serious negative reaction to a needle, and she has never put one in that spot again. (My reiki practitioner, while very good, doesn't take quite that much care. She just gets on with it for an hour.) Energy manipulation can be serious stuff.
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« Reply #100 on: November 03, 2012, 03:46:36 am »
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I'll see if I can reconstruct that process.  I don't want to derail this thread with it, but I can PM you what I work out if you like.  Let me know.

Would you consider starting a new thread to discuss it more publicly? I understand if not, but I'm very interested. I get migranes and energy fluctuations, and I'm on the autistic spectrum and feel like I'm incapable of blocking some kinds of energy from others - it just floods me. I've learnt some basic shielding techniques (and I carry flourite) but they're often not enough.
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« Reply #101 on: November 03, 2012, 03:48:25 am »
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Argh. Well-meaning they might be, but well-meaning people rarely do well.


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« Reply #102 on: November 03, 2012, 09:14:04 am »
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I'm on the autistic spectrum

 
I'm an aspie here, I wonder if being on the spectrum affects energy work?
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« Reply #103 on: November 03, 2012, 03:04:37 pm »
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Another real problem started to come up a decade or so ago, when people would run around, attuning others into Reiki, without schooling or teaching, because 'it is an intelligent energy and can do no harm.'

There is a flood of fluffy new-agey people out there, armed with Reiki and no clue about other forms of energy work or the energy system at a large.

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ALL I am is a channel, that's all the L1 and L2 attunements did.


That's all any of the attunements do.  Open the channels.  Then you have to learn to control it.
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