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Author Topic: Reiki - Questions for Practitioners  (Read 7627 times)

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Re: Reiki - Questions for Practitioners
« Reply #105 on: November 04, 2012, 06:36:10 pm »
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It's because the person forcing Reiki (or whatever) onto people cares more about doing the "right" thing than whether or not it is actually beneficial.

 
HA I finally found this quote:

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Re: Reiki - Questions for Practitioners
« Reply #106 on: November 04, 2012, 08:48:20 pm »
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HA I finally found this quote:

"Altruism is in itself evil.  You have no right to do good *to* people --
if you want to do good *for* someone, you need consent."

 
I can't recall if you said earlier in the thread that you were trying to find a particular quote, and if so from whom, and don't feel up to reviewing the whole thing to see - who is this a quote from?  (Because when I gank stuff, I want to know where credit is due - and This. Quote. Rocks.)

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Re: Reiki - Questions for Practitioners
« Reply #107 on: November 04, 2012, 11:05:59 pm »
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I can't recall if you said earlier in the thread that you were trying to find a particular quote, and if so from whom, and don't feel up to reviewing the whole thing to see - who is this a quote from?  (Because when I gank stuff, I want to know where credit is due - and This. Quote. Rocks.)

 
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Re: Reiki - Questions for Practitioners
« Reply #108 on: November 05, 2012, 04:42:22 pm »
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A person signing off as joy beeson, posting in the rec.arts.sf.composition newsgroup sometime in the early oughts.

 
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« Reply #109 on: November 05, 2012, 06:12:21 pm »
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Would you consider starting a new thread to discuss it more publicly? I understand if not, but I'm very interested. I get migranes and energy fluctuations, and I'm on the autistic spectrum and feel like I'm incapable of blocking some kinds of energy from others - it just floods me. I've learnt some basic shielding techniques (and I carry flourite) but they're often not enough.

 
I'm sorry I'm running late with this.  Weekend got busy (lost the brakes on my car in the middle of giving Ladybug a driving lesson.  By her reaction I'd say she's ready to take her test :)) and I'm just now getting repairs and costs arranged.  I should have a couple of quiet days before my pre-admit on Friday, though, so I will hopefully get it written up.

I can start a thread if there is interest, but I'm PMing it to Aster when I'm done and it's just as easy to PM a copy to you as well.  I don't want to make it more of a big deal than it is.  It's basically just a variant of a common warding technique.

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« Reply #110 on: November 06, 2012, 12:32:57 am »
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I can start a thread if there is interest, but I'm PMing it to Aster when I'm done and it's just as easy to PM a copy to you as well.  I don't want to make it more of a big deal than it is.  It's basically just a variant of a common warding technique.

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Sure - PM would be great. Thanks in advance.
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Re: Reiki - Questions for Practitioners
« Reply #111 on: December 23, 2012, 09:28:29 am »
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That's all any of the attunements do.  Open the channels.  Then you have to learn to control it.

 
Doesn't that defeat the purpose of being a channel?

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Re: Reiki - Questions for Practitioners
« Reply #112 on: December 23, 2012, 10:53:27 am »
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Doesn't that defeat the purpose of being a channel?


Not really.
Being a channel is one thing. Not knowing what's going on another.

The idea of 'oh I am just a channel, the energy knows what it does' leads to the trouble in first place.

Or in other words: if you want to be neutral and not starting to interfere with your own will, you have to know where the difference is.

Personally I've never thought it a good idea, to give responsibility up to anyone or anything.
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« Reply #113 on: December 23, 2012, 02:55:56 pm »
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Not really.
Being a channel is one thing. Not knowing what's going on another.

The idea of 'oh I am just a channel, the energy knows what it does' leads to the trouble in first place.


Reiki being an intelligent energy is one of the basic concepts I was taught in both my attunements and in any material on reiki I've found.  It's the reason why it's pulled to other parts of the body that need it, regardless of where I place my hands.  Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what you're saying, so would you please clarify?

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Or in other words: if you want to be neutral and not starting to interfere with your own will, you have to know where the difference is.


Where is the difference?

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« Reply #114 on: December 23, 2012, 03:11:17 pm »
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Reiki being an intelligent energy is one of the basic concepts I was taught in both my attunements and in any material on reiki I've found.  It's the reason why it's pulled to other parts of the body that need it, regardless of where I place my hands.  Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what you're saying, so would you please clarify?


Btw I am trying to find info online saying that Reiki is NOT intelligent and the only thing I find is this:http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=1006050702866  

I would appreciate it you could direct me to information that either denies or confirms that it is intelligent.  Personally I don't see how it can be and I agree with the poster on the yahoo question that there would be no need to learn hand positions if the reiki just went wherever it needed anyway.  This is also the reason why scanning is important.  My personal theory is that the reiki is pulled to where it is needed because these areas are energy sinks, which is the reason it needs reiki to flow correctly again in the first place.

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« Reply #115 on: December 23, 2012, 05:22:39 pm »
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My personal theory is that the reiki is pulled to where it is needed because these areas are energy sinks, which is the reason it needs reiki to flow correctly again in the first place.


And I agree that this is why it does work for so many people on this level.
But some problems are not caused by lack of energy and if more energy is applied, reiki worsens the issue.

The reason I deny the 'intelligent energy' pov is my experience with energy work in general. Plus, that in my world view I don't assume a god-like benevolent power that is almost = reiki, like it does in the opinions of some folks.

If reiki would be, what so many claim (intelligent and inherently benevolent) it could be applied always and under all circumstances without thinking and without causing harm - and this is just not the case.

It is an energy and energy is a tool. It becomes good or bad through the usage.
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Re: Reiki - Questions for Practitioners
« Reply #116 on: December 23, 2012, 05:53:57 pm »
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And I agree that this is why it does work for so many people on this level.
But some problems are not caused by lack of energy and if more energy is applied, reiki worsens the issue.

The reason I deny the 'intelligent energy' pov is my experience with energy work in general. Plus, that in my world view I don't assume a god-like benevolent power that is almost = reiki, like it does in the opinions of some folks.

If reiki would be, what so many claim (intelligent and inherently benevolent) it could be applied always and under all circumstances without thinking and without causing harm - and this is just not the case.

It is an energy and energy is a tool. It becomes good or bad through the usage.


Exactly.  Energy is energy - and just like the electrical power coming to your house, it's what you do with it that counts.
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