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Author Topic: Manipulating the solstice  (Read 1166 times)

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Manipulating the solstice
« on: June 23, 2017, 06:30:33 pm »
So, last year I made an attempt to extend the solar solstice. Ultimately didn't go very well.

Now, I feel even more connected to the sun, but a sudden plague of anxiety stopped me right when it happened. Now I'm healed and confident again, but it matters little when the solstice has passed.

As someone who works with the sun, is the idea of solstices restricting in the first place? I don't feel spiritual differences between dawn and afternoon, I feel the sun as a cosmic light well beyond the earth.

Could I try to screw with the natural order of the solstices in a non-solstice day?

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Re: Manipulating the solstice
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2017, 07:15:21 pm »
Could I try to screw with the natural order of the solstices in a non-solstice day?

You can try to do whatever you like.  I mean, your odds of success aren't going to improve depending on when you do it, so knock yourself out.
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Re: Manipulating the solstice
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2017, 07:45:28 pm »
As someone who works with the sun, is the idea of solstices restricting in the first place? I don't feel spiritual differences between dawn and afternoon, I feel the sun as a cosmic light well beyond the earth.

Could I try to screw with the natural order of the solstices in a non-solstice day?

Extending the solstice (the very word means 'standing still' and, well, the universe does tend to want to keep moving...) would be trying to screw with the natural order, yes. So you can try. But as Darkhawk says, not sure that's going to work out well.

What's your actual goal in trying to do the work you're doing? What are you hoping to achieve? If it's a connection with the sun, there are tons of other ways to do it that actually work *with* the relationship of the sun and the earth (on which your body is) rather than against it.
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Re: Manipulating the solstice
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2017, 09:23:03 pm »
You can try to do whatever you like.  I mean, your odds of success aren't going to improve depending on when you do it, so knock yourself out.

So the solstice wasn't that relevant to begin with?

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Re: Manipulating the solstice
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2017, 09:25:46 pm »
Extending the solstice (the very word means 'standing still' and, well, the universe does tend to want to keep moving...) would be trying to screw with the natural order, yes. So you can try. But as Darkhawk says, not sure that's going to work out well.

What's your actual goal in trying to do the work you're doing? What are you hoping to achieve? If it's a connection with the sun, there are tons of other ways to do it that actually work *with* the relationship of the sun and the earth (on which your body is) rather than against it.

Further connection with the light (gradually increasing over the years, but still nowhere enough), to make a statement.

Ideally, I would summon the sun even in dark areas, so that its essence can manifested. If I absolutely have the resources to do so, maybe create a second sun

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Re: Manipulating the solstice
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2017, 12:29:04 am »
Further connection with the light (gradually increasing over the years, but still nowhere enough), to make a statement.

Ideally, I would summon the sun even in dark areas, so that its essence can manifested. If I absolutely have the resources to do so, maybe create a second sun

And this is why we don't hand kids the controls of a loaded 747. Have you considered how a second sun would affect the heat balance, not to mention the orbital mechanics of the Earth? How "manifesting the essence" of the sun would disrupt the life cycles of nocturnal animals which depend upon darkness to find sustenance?

Look, I've suggested to my own God that in Final Reality he include some kind of "sandbox" provision which would allow us to play around with alterations of this type and see their effects, either just for fun or with an eye to merging them into the larger universe if they really do work out well. But I'm sure that any major alterations will have to pass a "design review" by whomever is responsible for managing that particular realm...and you'll have to show sufficient financial responsibility to cover any damage claims which may ensue.

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Re: Manipulating the solstice
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2017, 06:36:40 am »
Look, I've suggested to my own God that in Final Reality he include some kind of "sandbox" provision which would allow us to play around with alterations of this type and see their effects, either just for fun or with an eye to merging them into the larger universe if they really do work out well.

Oh wow... I just got a Hitchhikers flashback here.  :o
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Re: Manipulating the solstice
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2017, 09:31:39 am »
So the solstice wasn't that relevant to begin with?

I have no idea whether or not the solstice is relevant to you.

Once you have mastered flight using only the power of your mind, you can work up to thinking about the masses involved with orbital dynamics.  Techniques would after all be quite similar.
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Re: Manipulating the solstice
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2017, 10:41:11 am »
And this is why we don't hand kids the controls of a loaded 747. Have you considered how a second sun would affect the heat balance, not to mention the orbital mechanics of the Earth? How "manifesting the essence" of the sun would disrupt the life cycles of nocturnal animals which depend upon darkness to find sustenance?

Look, I've suggested to my own God that in Final Reality he include some kind of "sandbox" provision which would allow us to play around with alterations of this type and see their effects, either just for fun or with an eye to merging them into the larger universe if they really do work out well. But I'm sure that any major alterations will have to pass a "design review" by whomever is responsible for managing that particular realm...and you'll have to show sufficient financial responsibility to cover any damage claims which may ensue.

Still want to manipulate the solstice in the here-and-now?

Let's just say I have my reasons

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Re: Manipulating the solstice
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2017, 11:01:26 am »
Let's just say I have my reasons
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Re: Manipulating the solstice
« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2017, 01:03:38 pm »
So, last year I made an attempt to extend the solar solstice. Ultimately didn't go very well.

The physical solstice is an alignment of the Earth and the Sun (to be specific the summer solstice in the northern hemisphere is when the sun reaches the highest position in the sky that it can as seen from the north pole). To extend it physically, you would have to freeze the Earth's movement around the sun at that time. This is not something I believe you can accomplish -- and if you could, the side effects of doing so would not be pleasant for the planet or those living things on it.
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Re: Manipulating the solstice
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2017, 03:22:42 pm »
Further connection with the light (gradually increasing over the years, but still nowhere enough), to make a statement.

Ideally, I would summon the sun even in dark areas, so that its essence can manifested. If I absolutely have the resources to do so, maybe create a second sun

Speaking as someone who is quite connected and at home in the dark...your vision sounds frankly terrifying to me.

I think we can all try to create change in whatever way we desire, however I also think that it sometimes is good to consider how the things we are doing (or attempting) might effect other people.  And ultimately, I think that when we strive to effect the greater world, we are up against the will of all the other beings in the world who might not share our vision.

Perhaps try to connect to the solar/solstice energy at non-solstice times instead of trying to create perpetual sun?
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Re: Manipulating the solstice
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2017, 05:17:38 am »


Could I try to screw with the natural order of the solstices in a non-solstice day?

Given that you can't physically stop the sun, nor would it be a good idea to do so for reasons already given how are your "travelling" skills?  I've done something similar which is akin to running down a moving staircase which is travelling up so essentially I'm in stasis in the moment for as long as I care to be. 

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