let's heal my knee!

[Darkhawk]

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Because I shared my experiences?

 
No.

[veggiewolf]

Because I shared my experiences?

 
You shared your experiences in a particular way.  That way happened to be ableist - you said "X works" without a qualifier that you knew it might not work in all situations or for all people.  By not including said qualifier, your words came across as "X works in all situations and people who don't have this experience aren't trying hard enough."

It would be as if someone posted about asthma and I responded with "you need Ventolin and Advair" rather than saying "these things worked for me - you might want to speak with your doctor."

See the difference?

[Fionnbharr]

You shared your experiences in a particular way.  That way happened to be ableist - you said "X works" without a qualifier that you knew it might not work in all situations or for all people.  By not including said qualifier, your words came across as "X works in all situations and people who don't have this experience aren't trying hard enough."

It would be as if someone posted about asthma and I responded with "you need Ventolin and Advair" rather than saying "these things worked for me - you might want to speak with your doctor."

See the difference?

 
This is a thread to help someone, if that one wish further explanation they simply have to ask and I freely give it. I find it silly that people suggest to me what I mean with my words when they don't even know me! So how does it help OP to choose to attack others for their experiences? How is it my fault that others have treated you or your friends in a way you deem bad? It would be appreciated if people were honest the way Naomi J were in her second response to me, then I can understand that people have been hurt by others. That does not mean that was done by me did it? or that it was my point? I simply do not perceive reality that way!! You do not know me or know any of the struggles I have gone through and have over come, do you?

[Fionnbharr]

Perhaps you have some tips?

It is, after all, exactly as plausible as curing my disabilities by the same method.

 
It might be a help if you simply tried to talk to me, maybe I could help. I cannot promise anything at all (because I do not see reality as a thing that ever is certain)!! However if it ever helps your situation to project your struggles on me you are welcome.

[Darkhawk]

It might be a help if you simply tried to talk to me,

I did.  You see all those posts trying to talk to you?  The ones you blew off already because you don't care that your actions in this thread are problematic?

However if it ever helps your situation to project your struggles on me you are welcome.

 
The only struggle I'm having that's come up in this thread is with trying to get you to understand that it's not that other people have done unpleasant things, it's that you are doing the same unpleasant things.

I don't think I'm projecting that one.

[Fionnbharr]

I did.  You see all those posts trying to talk to you?  The ones you blew off already because you don't care that your actions in this thread are problematic?

The only struggle I'm having that's come up in this thread is with trying to get you to understand that it's not that other people have done unpleasant things, it's that you are doing the same unpleasant things.

I don't think I'm projecting that one.

You can think what ever you will of me if that makes you feel better about yourself, it does not make it more true or false. If you wish to struggle that is your choice, and if it helps you to make up stories about me then please, I am not insulted or anything. I know what I have gone through and know what I have experienced, I do not need others to validate it. I simply shared a solution, nothing more nothing less. If people read their emotions into it, then that is their struggle not mine. Are you not a staff, should the point of this thread not be to help the OP?

[Darkhawk]

Are you not a staff, should the point of this thread not be to help the OP?

 
Theory and practice of magic.  You made an extremely questionable claim about magical workings on a discussion and debate board.

Surprise!  People disagree!

[Fionnbharr]

Theory and practice of magic.  You made an extremely questionable claim about magical workings on a discussion and debate board.

Surprise!  People disagree!

 
I am not surprised people disagree, I just question how you and others actions towards me help the OP. I posted to help with embraced arms to everyone who wished to gain better understanding of what I said. Maybe you should look at your initial approach and ask yourself why I did not openly share my understandings with you

[Melamphoros]

I am not surprised people disagree, I just question how you and others actions towards me help the OP. I posted to help with embraced arms to everyone who wished to gain better understanding of what I said. Maybe you should look at your initial approach and ask yourself why I did not openly share my understandings with you

 

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[Fionnbharr]

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*sigh* I am out of words. Where did I tell others how to post :confused:

[yewberry]

If she want her knee to be another way then there is an imbalance between how it is and how she wish it to be is there not?

It's not an imbalance.  It's a reality.  Altering a reality (physically or magically) doesn't correct an imbalance, it simply changes it.  No idea why you even brought it up, actually.

Brina

[Queen of Wands]

It really really is about the "level" of intention you put into it. The more you can see your knee completely healed the closer you are to the reality in which it is so. It basically is about letting go of the blocks that keep your knee imbalanced, though from your words it sounds like you are already doing that. Within the Greek Pantheon there is Asklepios. He might be worth asking for advice on this.

Or perhaps it's not spiritual at all, or about any kind of imbalance, but RoslynLibera has just injured her knee and it's taking her body some time to recover?

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And to go back to the main topic: OP, I do hope you find the relief you're looking for. I've always had more luck with alternative health professionals than with just trying to focus on getting better on my own. But, as I mentioned above, that's dependent on you being able to afford it.

 

Thank you for the advice, both and all of you I am already doing whatever I can medically and physically to recover - but there is the mental, spiritual, emotional, whatever aspects that shouldn't be ignored while my body takes it's (very long) time in healing. Asklepios will be something to look into, as is getting another acupuncture appointment soon.

It's hard to believe it has been almost a month since - I am happy to be out of the immobilizing brace but my knee is still very swollen and I limp. I have to regain my muscles, especially my quads. I've got work to do!

[Sophia C]

Thank you for the advice, both and all of you I am already doing whatever I can medically and physically to recover - but there is the mental, spiritual, emotional, whatever aspects that shouldn't be ignored while my body takes it's (very long) time in healing. Asklepios will be something to look into, as is getting another acupuncture appointment soon.

It's hard to believe it has been almost a month since - I am happy to be out of the immobilizing brace but my knee is still very swollen and I limp. I have to regain my muscles, especially my quads. I've got work to do!

Brighid is a lovely one to talk to about healing, if you know her at all or have an interest in Irish gods.

My condition involves dislocating joints, and I've had a few that have ended up damaging the muscles around them, in a similar way (it sounds) to your knee. The best answer was following exactly the instructions that the specialist or PT gave me - resting the right amount, doing the right amount of specific exercises, and getting any extra treatment that is recommended. I do hope your knee improves soon!

[Fionnbharr]

It's not an imbalance.  It's a reality.  Altering a reality (physically or magically) doesn't correct an imbalance, it simply changes it.  No idea why you even brought it up, actually.

Brina

From my POV in some realities its an imbalance in others it is a reality. We each should find the way in which it suits us best, find the reality that works best for ourselves.

There are probably an infinite amount of ways to perceive reality. We could say that there are an infinite amount of layers to this reality that each are a different version of us. In each moment we choose which of them we dress ourselves in. The more impossible we think of this layer the further back in the closet it is stored away and the more effort it will take to find it and use it. The closer we come to it the more real it becomes and therefore easier approachable. All these layers are not in themselves imbalanced. It is like taking a shirt on and valuing whether you look good in it or not.

And imbalances to me is the same way, in itself it is neither good nor bad. I have had ones that I once thought of as bad, yet later thought of as good. Now I rarely perceive them in either way. Separation simply no longer makes much sense to me. I have moved through many states of reality (or layers of reality) to get to the understanding I have today (and I am exited about all the possible adventures I see in it). And as long as my perception of reality works for me I think I am going to stay with it. Whether others choose to accept it or not is not in my hands... and that is as it should be I think

[SunflowerP]

And as long as my perception of reality works for me I think I am going to stay with it. Whether others choose to accept it or not is not in my hands... and that is as it should be I think

This right here seems to be part of why people are annoyed at you.
 
When you speak of others choosing (or not) to accept your perception of reality, are you speaking of them accepting that you have that perception, or of them accepting it in preference to their own perceptions?

If the former, no one is disputing that you have that perception of reality. What they are disputing is whether it does, in fact, work for anyone other than you, or whether it might be useless or even damaging to some.

If the latter, that's pretty arrogant.

Either way, you're centring your perception of reality as something for people to choose for or against, as if their own perceptions were trivial, nonexistent, or inferior. Unsurprisingly, they're finding this objectionable - and are, accordingly, objecting.

Sunflower