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Tarot Decks You Can do Without
« on: September 14, 2012, 01:42:42 pm »
I thought this might be a fun thread for those tarot users who collect decks, especially for their artwork or overall theme. So far I only have about 25 decks, but I look forward to collecting many more.

Are there any themes or deck-styles you think could use a bit of a break, or need to be put on hold for the next 100 years?

I want to hear other people's opinions before I share my own, but I'll kick off with at least one;

Gothic decks.

Too many of them, too much recycled symbolism, too many forlorn waifs with runny mascara holding pentacles while staring off into...I don't know the fucking moonrise or something. Seriously, I think the tarot market could do without a new gothic tarot deck for awhile.
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Re: Tarot Decks You Can do Without
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2012, 01:52:08 pm »
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Are there any themes or deck-styles you think could use a bit of a break, or need to be put on hold for the next 100 years?


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Re: Tarot Decks You Can do Without
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2012, 02:08:34 pm »
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Oh gods.
Definitely anything with sugar-coated 'angels', 'fairies' and rainbow barfing unicorns.

 
Yeah, this one is kind of puzzling to me too. Who is this Doreen Virtue and how is she talking to so many entities who want to do nothing but tell me how wonderful my farts smell and what that means for my psyche? O.o

I received a Goddess Oracle deck by her as a gift and, while the artwork is beautiful, I found the "messages" to be a bit...trite. On top of that I was amazed at how none of the goddesses ever told me to get off of my ass and stop whining.

I was very good at whining when I was 23.
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Re: Tarot Decks You Can do Without
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2012, 10:00:01 pm »
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Yeah, this one is kind of puzzling to me too. Who is this Doreen Virtue and how is she talking to so many entities who want to do nothing but tell me how wonderful my farts smell and what that means for my psyche? O.o

I received a Goddess Oracle deck by her as a gift and, while the artwork is beautiful, I found the "messages" to be a bit...trite. On top of that I was amazed at how none of the goddesses ever told me to get off of my ass and stop whining.

I was very good at whining when I was 23.


LOLITY LOL.

My Tarot decks don't shy away from telling me stuff, but my Cachet gift deck is noticeably blunt. My Arthurian is nicer, but art-wise I once described it as a "softer" deck and someone mentioned several cards that were extremely vivid on the carnage side of things--so perhaps my notion of "soft" artwork is less so than I thought.

As for that, I concur with the call for less fairy/gothic artwork. Also, less fake-medieval stuff with the same palette-swapped dresses and standard flowing hair. Either more artists need to research REAL medieval fashion, or they should branch out and do more of the other eras. (Aaaaand now I'm wondering about a Film Noir deck. :p)

Personally, I want to see more Renaissance or Edwardian fashion in the Tarot.
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Re: Tarot Decks You Can do Without
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2012, 10:16:17 pm »
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Oh gods.
Definitely anything with sugar-coated 'angels', 'fairies' and rainbow barfing unicorns.

I saw a "cherub" (the very cute with lots of sugar-coating variety) deck once. That was once too much. I can't imagine actually trying to use it.
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Re: Tarot Decks You Can do Without
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2012, 11:27:01 pm »
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I received a Goddess Oracle deck by her as a gift and, while the artwork is beautiful, I found the "messages" to be a bit...trite. On top of that I was amazed at how none of the goddesses ever told me to get off of my ass and stop whining.

I was very good at whining when I was 23.


I have her Goddess Guidance Oracle and I took it out to do some "joke" readings with a friend (of the "LOL look at this deck" kind).

The actual reading was like a kick to the face. I wish I could remember what I'd asked exactly.

However, I have entertained the notion of adding in more "realistic" meanings for each of the cards, as appropriate to the goddess's stories and attributes.
 
As for deck themes I'm tired of, the only one I can think of right now is steampunk, steampunk seems to be the in thing of the moment, and although I own two steampunk decks (the Steampunk Tarot by Barbara Moore and Aly Fell and the Steampunk Fairy Oracle by Mary Hoy), I think I've had my fill of steampunk.

Also, I'd kind of like to see a Pagan-y deck which takes its subject matter seriously instead of being "cats in witch hats" (Pagan Cats, I'm looking at you).

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Re: Tarot Decks You Can do Without
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2012, 08:39:50 pm »
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Oh gods.
Definitely anything with sugar-coated 'angels', 'fairies' and rainbow barfing unicorns.

 
I couldn't agree more.

a deck that I have that is very interesting is Hexen 2.0  The only two problems is you have to be a freaking genius to understand it,  and the cards are so large that it's not realistic to use it for readings.

speaking of card size, I wish Deviant Moon produced a smaller version.
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Re: Tarot Decks You Can do Without
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2013, 08:49:45 am »
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I couldn't agree more.

a deck that I have that is very interesting is Hexen 2.0  The only two problems is you have to be a freaking genius to understand it,  and the cards are so large that it's not realistic to use it for readings.

speaking of card size, I wish Deviant Moon produced a smaller version.

 
What is up with all of these awful 3D CGI decks? They look like an art student's first attempt at Lightwave. You know, the attempt they keep around for sentimental value but only show their close friends and family? That. But on a deck. Sold to the public. On Amazon.com.

I can't.

I'm really interested in The Daemon Tarot: The Forbidden Wisdom of the Infernal Dictionary because #reasons. Unfortunately, the deck is paired up with the Tarot of the Night which is just another example of this horrible trend. Now I'm scared the deck I want is going to be similar in style and OMG, I would not be able to take it if such a beautiful concept was fucked up by crap CGI.

There.

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Re: Tarot Decks You Can do Without
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2013, 08:53:28 am »
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Personally, I want to see more Renaissance or Edwardian fashion in the Tarot.



The Jane Austen tarot is nice for those who are Austen fans. I don't read with it, but I enjoyed going through the cards and picking out the scenes I actually remembered. I could be wrong about the era of Jane's work though. I'm prone to get Edwardian ad Georgian mixed up. So if I'm wrong...ignore this post. :confused:
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« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2013, 05:25:45 pm »
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The Jane Austen tarot is nice for those who are Austen fans. I don't read with it, but I enjoyed going through the cards and picking out the scenes I actually remembered. I could be wrong about the era of Jane's work though. I'm prone to get Edwardian ad Georgian mixed up. So if I'm wrong...ignore this post. :confused:

Jane's Georgian.  Edwardian c
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Re: Tarot Decks You Can do Without
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2013, 11:35:05 pm »
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Are there any themes or deck-styles you think could use a bit of a break, or need to be put on hold for the next 100 years?

 
I will agree with the oh-so-gawthic decks, ugly ass faerie decks, angels, and barfing unicorns. Oh, and dolphins. Even one friggin Doreen Virtue magical dolphin deck is one too many.

And YES, the 3-D decks. Like they want to be collages, but instead they're overdone computer generated garbage.

I'm fairly picky about art. I like my decks to be visually striking and consistent. I find a lot of decks that have a decent major arcana and then the minors are just like, phoned in.

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« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2013, 11:36:35 pm »
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I will agree with the oh-so-gawthic decks, ugly ass faerie decks, angels, and barfing unicorns. Oh, and dolphins. Even one friggin Doreen Virtue magical dolphin deck is one too many.

And YES, the 3-D decks. Like they want to be collages, but instead they're overdone computer generated garbage.

I'm fairly picky about art. I like my decks to be visually striking and consistent. I find a lot of decks that have a decent major arcana and then the minors are just like, phoned in.

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Re: Tarot Decks You Can do Without
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2013, 04:34:05 am »
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I thought this might be a fun thread for those tarot users who collect decks, especially for their artwork or overall theme. So far I only have about 25 decks, but I look forward to collecting many more.

Are there any themes or deck-styles you think could use a bit of a break, or need to be put on hold for the next 100 years?

I want to hear other people's opinions before I share my own, but I'll kick off with at least one;

Gothic decks.

Too many of them, too much recycled symbolism, too many forlorn waifs with runny mascara holding pentacles while staring off into...I don't know the fucking moonrise or something. Seriously, I think the tarot market could do without a new gothic tarot deck for awhile.

 
I once tried a celtic tarot deck in which they used pictures of actual people to represent the archetypes (the various members of the court, The Fool, The Hierophant, etc.).  I liked the symbolic balance of the deck, and I liked the artwork surrounding the figures.  But I couldn't read with the darn thing.  The photos just bugged me.  And trying to cast spells with them was even worse and never actually came off.  I just kept thinking, "If I'm using this person's image, isn't it going to startle or distract them when I evoke energy using it?  What if they're driving when I evoke the energy and they get distracted at a critical moment?  What if I evoke a bountiful, fruit-bedecked card when the person photographed there has the flu and is puking five times a day?  Or what if I evoke a card with fertility god themes the day the person portrayed there has a vasectomy?  It really sounds silly when I talk about it, but - damn it - the idea just bothered me.  I enchanted the cards, bundled them up with directions for renewing the spell, and sent them to a fellow-diviner who didn't have a problem with the imagery.

Also, although I wasn't present, I've heard a horrific story about some violent and disturbed things that happened after a bare-bones amateur conducted a reading using an H.R. Giger deck.  Now, don't get me wrong - Giger is a talented artist; I grew up watching the Alien movies and playing the first Darkseed game on DOS.  But I do not, under any circumstances, recommend using one of those decks to read; collect it for the art, but don't use it for divination.

On the other side of things, I agree with the folks who avoid the fluffy decks.  I don't say they should be banned, but I'm not a fluffy sort of pagan - loving and spiky, perhaps, but not fluffy.
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Re: Tarot Decks You Can do Without
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2013, 10:30:49 am »
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 Also, I'd kind of like to see a Pagan-y deck which takes its subject matter seriously instead of being "cats in witch hats" (Pagan Cats, I'm looking at you).

 
I am a newish user of tarot.  I have the Tarot of Pagan Cats mini and while it has cats they don't wear any accessories.  There is a good review for it   http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/cards/pagan-cats/review.shtml  I find a better connection with it than the RWS even though it is based on this system.  The symbology works better for me.  

I agree with your desire for a Pagan-y deck.  I just don't gel with those that have an underlying of Judeo/Christianity.  RWS makes me feel like I'm fighting it the whole time: symbols and interpretation.

As to decks I can do without: Goth, Vampires - just too disturbing for me; the afore mentioned fluffy - angels, anything Doreen Virtue.  Ughh!
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Re: Tarot Decks You Can do Without
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2013, 03:21:39 pm »
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I thought this might be a fun thread for those tarot users who collect decks, especially for their artwork or overall theme. So far I only have about 25 decks, but I look forward to collecting many more.

Are there any themes or deck-styles you think could use a bit of a break, or need to be put on hold for the next 100 years?

 
Aside from the obvious Doreen Virtue stuff, I don't like the Hello Kitty one.  I've only seen the deck once, but it was enough.  Too cutesy for me.  And I *love* cats!  It belongs with the barfing unicorns and fairies, I think.

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