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Author Topic: Anyone else read playing cards?  (Read 1701 times)

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Anyone else read playing cards?
« on: November 27, 2013, 06:22:56 pm »
As found in the divination articles on this site, does anyone read normal playing cards?

I've always been hopeless with tarot, but I've been having luck with this. I'm still learning though, and I was wondering if anyone else here did it and perhaps if you keep notes on the cards and how you read them (individually or in combination). I've started keeping a page for each in my notebook, with a basic explanation first written, then the nuances that I learn from using them noted beneath (though these are very sparse so far).

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Re: Anyone else read playing cards?
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2013, 01:17:20 am »
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As found in the divination articles on this site, does anyone read normal playing cards?

 
I don't really know how. Tarot doesn't work that great for me, either. I've found more luck with runestones.

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Re: Anyone else read playing cards?
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2013, 05:23:26 am »
Quote from: Scales;130905
As found in the divination articles on this site, does anyone read normal playing cards?

I've always been hopeless with tarot, but I've been having luck with this. I'm still learning though, and I was wondering if anyone else here did it and perhaps if you keep notes on the cards and how you read them (individually or in combination). I've started keeping a page for each in my notebook, with a basic explanation first written, then the nuances that I learn from using them noted beneath (though these are very sparse so far).

 
I don't, but it's on my bucket list of things to learn.

My grandmother read playing cards like an absolute fiend; very specific predictions and timings and very accurate results.  Sadly I was too young to really learn much from her before dementia claimed her knowledge, and now I've no way to learn her specific way of reading - I've never seen a cartomancy technique that bears any meaningful resemblance to the way she read, either in terms of layout or card meanings.

I do know that card combinations and positions meant *everything* to the way Nanna read.  Individually, cards had only the most rudimentary meanings - a bit like someone jumping out from behind a bush and shouting "money!" and then running away.  That could mean anything, and isn't actually useful information on its own.  But when read as a whole you'd get a far more specific message, say "an angry man is going to cheat you out of some money in three months time because he's jealous of your success and thinks he deserves a cut".

The thing that worries me about this method (to an extent, it bothers me about Lenormand readings too) is that I have a crap memory due to some neurological shenanigans, so I rely a lot on having things written down.  But I don't really know how to record all the meanings-in-combination and meanings-relative-to-position in any sort of useful format.  There's just so much cross-referencing that I don't know how to capture that on paper.  Maybe building an actual database with links going hither and yon would work (if I could do such a thing, which I can't) but I genuinely don't know how people hold all that information in their heads and put it together in real time while doing a reading.  It's just boggling.

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Re: Anyone else read playing cards?
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2013, 12:15:58 pm »
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I don't really know how. Tarot doesn't work that great for me, either. I've found more luck with runestones.
I gave up on divination for a few years because I sucked at tarot and runes enough that I lost interest. Now I'm getting fairly adept with a pendulum and learning cards and crystal balls.
 
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My grandmother read playing cards like an absolute fiend; very specific predictions and timings and very accurate results.  Sadly I was too young to really learn much from her before dementia claimed her knowledge, and now I've no way to learn her specific way of reading - I've never seen a cartomancy technique that bears any meaningful resemblance to the way she read, either in terms of layout or card meanings.

I do know that card combinations and positions meant *everything* to the way Nanna read.  Individually, cards had only the most rudimentary meanings - a bit like someone jumping out from behind a bush and shouting "money!" and then running away.  That could mean anything, and isn't actually useful information on its own.  But when read as a whole you'd get a far more specific message, say "an angry man is going to cheat you out of some money in three months time because he's jealous of your success and thinks he deserves a cut".

The thing that worries me about this method (to an extent, it bothers me about Lenormand readings too) is that I have a crap memory due to some neurological shenanigans, so I rely a lot on having things written down. But I don't really know how to record all the meanings-in-combination and meanings-relative-to-position in any sort of useful format.  There's just so much cross-referencing that I don't know how to capture that on paper.  Maybe building an actual database with links going hither and yon would work (if I could do such a thing, which I can't) but I genuinely don't know how people hold all that information in their heads and put it together in real time while doing a reading.  It's just boggling.

Your nana sounds like she was amazing.

What I have been doing with my notes has been adding notes like:

Card Name
Definition by number and suit, any immediate definition
-Relationship with another card/suit
-Possible connection that arose from a reading?

Before all the card definitions, I also have a list of generic definitions for each number and each suit prior to combination, and what 4 spades or whatever means.
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Re: Anyone else read playing cards?
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2013, 03:24:57 pm »
Quote from: Scales;130905
As found in the divination articles on this site, does anyone read normal playing cards?

I've always been hopeless with tarot, but I've been having luck with this. I'm still learning though, and I was wondering if anyone else here did it and perhaps if you keep notes on the cards and how you read them (individually or in combination). I've started keeping a page for each in my notebook, with a basic explanation first written, then the nuances that I learn from using them noted beneath (though these are very sparse so far).


My grandmother also used to read playing cards when she was younger, but she passed away when I was a baby. I unfortunately didn't get a chance to learn from her. I've had more luck in reading tarot cards as I'm a visual person, but with any form of divination, it takes a lot of time and patience to find the right method for you.

A quick Google search shows some results for webpages and books. You might be able to get some help from those. Eventually, you might develop your personal way of reading playing cards. Good luck!

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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2013, 04:40:11 pm »
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My grandmother also used to read playing cards when she was younger, but she passed away when I was a baby. I unfortunately didn't get a chance to learn from her. I've had more luck in reading tarot cards as I'm a visual person, but with any form of divination, it takes a lot of time and patience to find the right method for you.

A quick Google search shows some results for webpages and books. You might be able to get some help from those. Eventually, you might develop your personal way of reading playing cards. Good luck!

 
I love the visuals on tarot cards myself and use one of my more preferred decks for symbols in ritual magic. I'm just awful at actually doing the readings, let alone with accuracy. On the other hand, the suits:numbers relationships and ways cards fit together with a playing deck read incredibly logically to me.

And thanks, I hadn't done too much research yet, but I should look for a book or two :) At least I have this thread for discussing it with people though.

All the accounts (well, two so far) of grandmas reading it have me wondering if my aunt does. Despite being from a very orthodox type of christian family, she is very spiritual and into odd things, and being almost as old as my grandparents on the other side would perhaps be from a generation that would have learned it (since the prevailing idea I'm getting here is that it was more popular more than a few decades ago). Sadly, she lives in Holland and doesn't use the internet, so I can't really ask.

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Re: Anyone else read playing cards?
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2013, 07:04:32 pm »
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As found in the divination articles on this site, does anyone read normal playing cards?

I read playing cards for years before I found a tarot deck. They were rare and over-priced in San Antonio in the late 1960s and early 1970s.
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« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2013, 01:37:54 am »
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I read playing cards for years before I found a tarot deck. They were rare and over-priced in San Antonio in the late 1960s and early 1970s.

I was a good bit later than that, but the reason I read playing cards rather than tarot for so many years is that they looked harmless to my fundie parents (neither of whom is terribly religious now, but they were Disney-boycott extreme when I was growing up).
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Anyone else read playing cards?
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2013, 02:34:36 am »
Quote from: Scales;130905
As found in the divination articles on this site, does anyone read normal playing cards?

I've always been hopeless with tarot, but I've been having luck with this. I'm still learning though, and I was wondering if anyone else here did it and perhaps if you keep notes on the cards and how you read them (individually or in combination). I've started keeping a page for each in my notebook, with a basic explanation first written, then the nuances that I learn from using them noted beneath (though these are very sparse so far).

I've been reading 'Fifty-four Devils' by Cory Hutcheson. It's based on playing card-reading approaches from a few different folk systems. I'm fascinated by playing card-reading, but I don't know if I could ever do it without notes - it can be so complex. This book is helping with some ideas and guidance, though.
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Re: Anyone else read playing cards?
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2013, 02:21:58 am »
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I was a good bit later than that, but the reason I read playing cards rather than tarot for so many years is that they looked harmless to my fundie parents (neither of whom is terribly religious now, but they were Disney-boycott extreme when I was growing up).

 
My parents were not nearly that fundie, but I didn't want to deal with explaining to my mom that I wanted to make a special trip to the pagan store two towns over to buy tarot cards. XD
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