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Author Topic: Is the Supernatural study a Form of Science?  (Read 6257 times)

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Re: Is the Supernatural study a Form of Science?
« Reply #75 on: December 30, 2012, 12:16:59 am »
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Wrong.... Monitor Lizards and Komodo Dragons have bacteria in their saliva that can lead to a painful death if you are bitten. Not Venom... Think again:whis:

 
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Re: Is the Supernatural study a Form of Science?
« Reply #76 on: December 30, 2012, 12:18:12 am »
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In what way does this sentence answer my question?


I'm not even going to answer this. This discussion has already been seen by a moderator. My initial response if all that you need to know.

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Re: Is the Supernatural study a Form of Science?
« Reply #77 on: December 30, 2012, 12:18:49 am »
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Venom.
The Gila monster is one of only two species of venomous lizards (its cousin, the Mexican beaded lizard, is the other). It can bite quickly and hold on tenaciously. Rather than injecting venom through hollow fangs like venomous snakes do, Gilas have enlarged, grooved teeth in their lower jaw. When they bite, their powerful jaws chew the venom in through capillary action along the grooves in these teeth. Gila monster venom is about as toxic as that of a western diamondback rattlesnake. However, a relatively small amount of venom is introduced in a Gila bite.
http://nationalzoo.si.edu/Animals/ReptilesAmphibians/Facts/FactSheets/Gilamonster.cfm
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Re: Is the Supernatural study a Form of Science?
« Reply #78 on: December 30, 2012, 12:19:10 am »
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Wrong.... Monitor Lizards and Komodo Dragons have bacteria in their saliva that can lead to a painful death if you are bitten. Not Venom... Think again:whis:


Oops.  I wish I were a scientist and understood the scientific method.

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Re: Is the Supernatural study a Form of Science?
« Reply #79 on: December 30, 2012, 12:25:06 am »
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Venom.

 
Gila and Beaded Lizard are the only true venomous lizards

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Stories that monitor lizards are venomous or even poisonous abound in the early literature. The siliva is considered poisonous in Bengal and in parts of Borneo they are always cooked with ginger as a precaution, because if a poisonous individual has been selected for the pot the mixture will turn black (Saha 1983; Auffenberg 1982). Mason & Theobald (in Gaddow 1901) claimed that Burmese Karens ate monitor lizards, but discarded the heads because they considered them poisonous. The secretive rough-necked monitor was believed have so venom so strong it could kill an elephant (Lekagul 1969). In Sri Lanka water monitors are often considered unpalatable whilst Bengal monitors are eaten with relish (Deraniyagala 1953). However treading on the faeces of the lizards may cause your feet to erupt with sores (de Silva, pers.comm.). The lizards' ability to prey on venomous snakes is recognised in many cultures and in Australia, Egypt and Algeria their immunity is often attributed to their habit of seeking out medicinal plants after receiving a bite (Reed 1987, Anderson 1898, Mamir, pers comm.).


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Re: Is the Supernatural study a Form of Science?
« Reply #80 on: December 30, 2012, 12:26:15 am »
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Gila and Beaded Lizard are the only true venomous lizards



http://www.mampam.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=101&Itemid=86
I had said that back a while ago.
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Re: Is the Supernatural study a Form of Science?
« Reply #81 on: December 30, 2012, 12:27:19 am »
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Gila and Beaded Lizard are the only true venomous lizards
http://www.mampam.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=101&Itemid=86


Uh-huh.  Scientific method proves pseudoscience...how?

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Re: Is the Supernatural study a Form of Science?
« Reply #82 on: December 30, 2012, 12:28:12 am »
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Uh-huh.  Scientific method proves pseudoscience...how?

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Re: Is the Supernatural study a Form of Science?
« Reply #83 on: December 30, 2012, 12:29:04 am »
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I'm not even going to answer this. This discussion has already been seen by a moderator. My initial response if all that you need to know.

 
That's certainly your right!

I can only assume you're making reference to Mel's reminder to the thread for everyone to keep a cool head, which I am certainly doing. I have made no attack on your personality; I have merely questioned your choice of words, as members of a debate and discussion forum tend to do. The thread has moved pretty quickly, so in case you missed something, please allow me to recap:

- You made a statement that read, to myself and at least one other person that I know of, as a racist remark about Asians.

- I asked for clarification on your comment, to determine whether it was actually intended as it appeared to me, or whether you could explain your phrasing to show that it was not, in fact, racist.

- You responded that because you had Asian family members, you had firsthand knowledge of "this", which I assume means you meant firsthand knowledge of materialistic Asians, but I cannot be sure as "this" has no specific qualifiers in your actual statement.

- I asked for further clarification, as your single sentence statement only revealed your opinion of your particular family members, and did nothing to elucidate your initial meaning.

So from where I'm sitting, no- your initial statement is not all I need to know, as it has informed me of precisely nothing.
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Re: Is the Supernatural study a Form of Science?
« Reply #84 on: December 30, 2012, 12:30:06 am »
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I'm not even going to answer this. This discussion has already been seen by a moderator. My initial response if all that you need to know.

 
*** MOD HAT ON ***

That doesn't mean a staff member can't overlook certain things.

First hand knowledge or not, it is still a blanket condemnation of an ethnic group.  You have already been given two warnings (one for arguing a mod call and the other for doing so in Latin).  Combined with the personal attacks from earlier in this thread, I have decided you earned a week's vacation.  Re-read the rules before posting again.  Anymore rules violations after the week-long ban expires will result in a permanent ban.


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Re: Is the Supernatural study a Form of Science?
« Reply #85 on: December 30, 2012, 12:31:34 am »
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Re: Is the Supernatural study a Form of Science?
« Reply #86 on: December 30, 2012, 12:33:14 am »
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You love screwing with him don't you? lol


I'm insulted.  And hurt.  Then insulted again.  I'd love to talk more about apple grafting, by the way.  :)

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Re: Is the Supernatural study a Form of Science?
« Reply #87 on: December 30, 2012, 12:36:58 am »
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I'm insulted.  And hurt.  Then insulted again.  I'd love to talk more about apple grafting, by the way.  :)

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Mostly all fruit trees we have today are from grafting. How do you think we got those great varieties! People don't realize that a simple leaf cutting is cloning. I can answer some questions, I am in no way an expert Horticulturalist.
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Re: Is the Supernatural study a Form of Science?
« Reply #88 on: December 30, 2012, 12:57:31 am »
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University of Hawaii Manoa... Papers?? Are you serious? I work in an office for USDA which pays me very very well. All of this is absolutely comical:D:

 
No no no.  See.  I'm not even in a scientific field and even I know that that's not how it works.  I don't know whether they all get published or not, but in order to get a PhD, you do have to write a report on research you've done that genuinely makes a new contribution to the knowledge of that field.  So yes, the papers part is serious.  If you have your PhD, you should be able to explain what you wrote your dissertation on and how that topic added to what was already known.  

Very seriously, I just got my B.A. and I've already written two research papers which, as far as I can tell, contain genuinely original research.  If you want, I can summarize them for you.  People are doubting your credentials because, while obviously none of us can know anything about your life for a fact, the ideas you've articulated here aren't particularly well thought-out.  You basically give lists of facts that anyone can find on Google; that's not indicative of having a PhD.  If you've done original research, you should be able to tell us things that Wikipedia can't.

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Re: Is the Supernatural study a Form of Science?
« Reply #89 on: December 30, 2012, 07:08:22 am »
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*** MOD HAT ON ***

That doesn't mean a staff member can't overlook certain things.

 
Thank you Mel - I've been holding my tongue with this person. but the train wreck this was becoming had even my blood pressure up.

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