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Author Topic: Whites-only Christian Gathering (and Cross Burning) Upsets Many  (Read 2055 times)

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The Christian Identity folks are holding a surprise (to area residents) "pastor's conference" in Lamar County, Alabama July 4-6, 2012. "All White Christians Invited" according to flyer put up in the middle of the night which also say the conference will close with a "Sacred Christian Cross Lighting Ceremony." As expected local residents are not pleased.

Read the article: Whites-only Christian gathering riles some Alabama neighbors
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Re: Whites-only Christian Gathering (and Cross Burning) Upsets Many
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2012, 11:00:08 am »
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The Christian Identity folks are holding a surprise (to area residents) "pastor's conference" in Lamar County, Alabama July 4-6, 2012. "All White Christians Invited" according to flyer put up in the middle of the night which also say the conference will close with a "Sacred Christian Cross Lighting Ceremony." As expected local residents are not pleased.


Wow, that's really disturbing.
 
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It was put up throughout the town in the middle of the night. (It was) when everyone was asleep without the permission of the business owner," said Tyler Cantrell, manager of Norris Music in nearby Winfield, Ala., the report said.


Unless I'm reading it wrong, this gave me the impression that they stuck flyers to privately owned businesses. If that's the case, couldn't the business owners get them for trespassing or vandalism charges or something?

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Re: Whites-only Christian Gathering (and Cross Burning) Upsets Many
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2012, 12:18:11 pm »
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Unless I'm reading it wrong, this gave me the impression that they stuck flyers to privately owned businesses. If that's the case, couldn't the business owners get them for trespassing or vandalism charges or something?

If they can prove who (i.e. a specific person) put the poster up, they might be able to.
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« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2012, 12:43:43 pm »
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If they can prove who (i.e. a specific person) put the poster up, they might be able to.

 
To do otherwise would open up a lot of abuse where if you don't like an organization you could put fliers for them where they don't belong and get the organization penalized.

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Whites-only Christian Gathering (and Cross Burning) Upsets Many
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2012, 01:12:39 pm »
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The Christian Identity folks are holding a surprise (to area residents) "pastor's conference" in Lamar County, Alabama July 4-6, 2012. "All White Christians Invited" according to flyer put up in the middle of the night which also say the conference will close with a "Sacred Christian Cross Lighting Ceremony." As expected local residents are not pleased.

Read the article: Whites-only Christian gathering riles some Alabama neighbors

I couldn't quite tell from the article: are they holding this "conference" in a public building or area? They'd need someone's permission first, in that case.

And how did this group manage to set this up without tipping off residents ahead of time?

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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2012, 01:19:14 pm »
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I couldn't quite tell from the article: are they holding this "conference" in a public building or area? They'd need someone's permission first, in that case.

And how did this group manage to set this up without tipping off residents ahead of time?

(I haven't had my caffeine yet, so if I'm incoherent, that's why.)


following links within the story, there appears to be a christian identity church in the next county, which is where they are holding the conference.
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Re: Whites-only Christian Gathering (and Cross Burning) Upsets Many
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2012, 05:47:48 pm »
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"Sacred Christian Cross Lighting Ceremony."

This is the part I really "love"? I guess they figure if you change the name, no one will realize you are going to burn a cross just like the KKK does (and for probably the exact same reasons). Doesn't look like this is working too well for them.
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« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2012, 06:38:59 pm »
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If they can prove who (i.e. a specific person) put the poster up, they might be able to.

 
I suppose the organizers could always claim it was done without their knowledge. Still, if it were my business, I'd be pissed.

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Re: Whites-only Christian Gathering (and Cross Burning) Upsets Many
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2012, 09:51:35 pm »
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I suppose the organizers could always claim it was done without their knowledge. Still, if it were my business, I'd be pissed.

I'd have removed it as "litter" as I walked in the door.
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Re: Whites-only Christian Gathering (and Cross Burning) Upsets Many
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2012, 11:52:37 pm »
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I'd have removed it as "litter" as I walked in the door.

 
if its a whites only cross lighting are they going to have a white guy strapped to the cross? or o all 'traditional' and have a black guy up there? cuz from what I recall of 'cross lightings' usually it's either done on black property or with a black person on the cross. O.o

this is so much stupidness. if your not doing any thing wrong then why are you sneaking around doing it at night and not asking permission etc.
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Re: Whites-only Christian Gathering (and Cross Burning) Upsets Many
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2012, 07:39:34 am »
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The Christian Identity folks are holding a surprise (to area residents) "pastor's conference" in Lamar County, Alabama July 4-6, 2012.

Part of their motivation for this is likely to be a publicity stunt.

Christian Identity movements have been in a bit of a poor state recently.  The younger far right types seem unattracted to religious based racism.
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Re: Whites-only Christian Gathering (and Cross Burning) Upsets Many
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2012, 08:07:03 am »
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Part of their motivation for this is likely to be a publicity stunt.

I expect you're right there. It has got them a lot of publicity.
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Re: Whites-only Christian Gathering (and Cross Burning) Upsets Many
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2012, 09:36:27 pm »
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if its a whites only cross lighting are they going to have a white guy strapped to the cross? or o all 'traditional' and have a black guy up there? cuz from what I recall of 'cross lightings' usually it's either done on black property or with a black person on the cross. O.o

this is so much stupidness. if your not doing any thing wrong then why are you sneaking around doing it at night and not asking permission etc.

 
I could ask the same question for most, if not all, pagan religions.  Why are many pagan religions done at night?  Why don't pagans ask permission from the country govt to do their rituals on their own property?

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Whites-only Christian Gathering (and Cross Burning) Upsets Many
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2012, 10:10:25 pm »
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I could ask the same question for most, if not all, pagan religions.  Why are many pagan religions done at night?  Why don't pagans ask permission from the country govt to do their rituals on their own property?

I think the comment about sneaking around at night and not asking permission was about how the group put up their flyers, not how they held the event.  The article implied that the flyers were put up in the middle of the night and that some were put on private property without the permission of the owners.
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Re: Whites-only Christian Gathering (and Cross Burning) Upsets Many
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2012, 10:28:32 pm »
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I think the comment about sneaking around at night and not asking permission was about how the group put up their flyers, not how they held the event.  The article implied that the flyers were put up in the middle of the night and that some were put on private property without the permission of the owners.

 
yes,that's what I was referring to.
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