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Author Topic: Satanists Turn Hobby Lobby Ruling Upside-down  (Read 2517 times)

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Satanists Turn Hobby Lobby Ruling Upside-down
« on: July 28, 2014, 10:15:41 am »
I've been watching the shenanigans of Lucien Greaves's Satanic Temple in the press with increasing interest. I am now officially in love.

Satanists want to use Hobby Lobby decision to exempt women from anti-abortion laws

"In a statement, the Satanic Temple said that it will use the Supreme Court’s recent Hobby Lobby decision to exempt its believers from state-mandated informed consent laws that require women considering abortions to read pro-life material."

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/28/satanists-want-to-use-hobby-lobby-decision-to-exempt-women-from-anti-abortion-laws/#.U9ZIZ1NFzlw.twitter

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Re: Satanists Turn Hobby Lobby Ruling Upside-down
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2014, 10:18:43 am »
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They may be unlikely to prevail, but you never know. They certainly get points for creative thinking!

 
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Re: Satanists Turn Hobby Lobby Ruling Upside-down
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2014, 01:26:23 pm »
Quote from: Altair;154163
I've been watching the shenanigans of Lucien Greaves's Satanic Temple in the press with increasing interest. I am now officially in love.

 
I love these guys.  Their trolling of conservative society is enough to warm that shriveled husk where my heart is suppose to be.


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Re: Satanists Turn Hobby Lobby Ruling Upside-down
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2014, 05:33:28 pm »
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They may be unlikely to prevail, but you never know. They certainly get points for creative thinking!

 
Bloody brilliant.

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Re: Satanists Turn Hobby Lobby Ruling Upside-down
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2014, 05:39:50 pm »
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I've been watching the shenanigans of Lucien Greaves's Satanic Temple in the press with increasing interest. I am now officially in love.

Satanists want to use Hobby Lobby decision to exempt women from anti-abortion laws

"In a statement, the Satanic Temple said that it will use the Supreme Court’s recent Hobby Lobby decision to exempt its believers from state-mandated informed consent laws that require women considering abortions to read pro-life material."

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/28/satanists-want-to-use-hobby-lobby-decision-to-exempt-women-from-anti-abortion-laws/#.U9ZIZ1NFzlw.twitter

They may be unlikely to prevail, but you never know. They certainly get points for creative thinking!

 
YES!

This is awesome. Go Satanists :)

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Re: Satanists Turn Hobby Lobby Ruling Upside-down
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2014, 06:05:00 pm »
Quote from: Altair;154163
I've been watching the shenanigans of Lucien Greaves's Satanic Temple in the press with increasing interest. I am now officially in love.

Satanists want to use Hobby Lobby decision to exempt women from anti-abortion laws

"In a statement, the Satanic Temple said that it will use the Supreme Court’s recent Hobby Lobby decision to exempt its believers from state-mandated informed consent laws that require women considering abortions to read pro-life material."

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/28/satanists-want-to-use-hobby-lobby-decision-to-exempt-women-from-anti-abortion-laws/#.U9ZIZ1NFzlw.twitter

They may be unlikely to prevail, but you never know. They certainly get points for creative thinking!

 

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Re: Satanists Turn Hobby Lobby Ruling Upside-down
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2014, 07:33:54 pm »
Quote from: Altair;154163
I've been watching the shenanigans of Lucien Greaves's Satanic Temple in the press with increasing interest. I am now officially in love.

Satanists want to use Hobby Lobby decision to exempt women from anti-abortion laws

"In a statement, the Satanic Temple said that it will use the Supreme Court’s recent Hobby Lobby decision to exempt its believers from state-mandated informed consent laws that require women considering abortions to read pro-life material."

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/28/satanists-want-to-use-hobby-lobby-decision-to-exempt-women-from-anti-abortion-laws/#.U9ZIZ1NFzlw.twitter

They may be unlikely to prevail, but you never know. They certainly get points for creative thinking!

 
Very creative...yay Satanists!

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Re: Satanists Turn Hobby Lobby Ruling Upside-down
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2014, 09:16:22 pm »
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"In a statement, the Satanic Temple said that it will use the Supreme Court’s recent Hobby Lobby decision to exempt its believers from state-mandated informed consent laws that require women considering abortions to read pro-life material."

How fantastic!! I love it! Thank you for sharing!

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Re: Satanists Turn Hobby Lobby Ruling Upside-down
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2014, 05:28:42 pm »
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Re: Satanists Turn Hobby Lobby Ruling Upside-down
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2014, 07:00:01 pm »
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And there's the guy who led a pagan invocation at a county commission meeting in Florida.

:ange::whis:


Yowsa! Give that dude his own minaret! ( and I don't even follow his faith) but I would enjoy listening to that .

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Re: Satanists Turn Hobby Lobby Ruling Upside-down
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2014, 03:34:25 am »
Quote from: Altair;154163
I've been watching the shenanigans of Lucien Greaves's Satanic Temple in the press with increasing interest. I am now officially in love.

Satanists want to use Hobby Lobby decision to exempt women from anti-abortion laws

"In a statement, the Satanic Temple said that it will use the Supreme Court’s recent Hobby Lobby decision to exempt its believers from state-mandated informed consent laws that require women considering abortions to read pro-life material."

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/28/satanists-want-to-use-hobby-lobby-decision-to-exempt-women-from-anti-abortion-laws/#.U9ZIZ1NFzlw.twitter

They may be unlikely to prevail, but you never know. They certainly get points for creative thinking!

 
Depends upon what you mean by the Hobby Lobby decision.

If you mean how can a closely held corporation use the RFRA, then the head line is not going to work.  The Satanic church has no standing, the law doesn't force the church to make it's members read the material.

If the women who are members want to avoid reading the material on religious grounds, then sort of.  It would still be the RFRA, but any of the earlier RFRA cases involving individuals work, although like the Utah FLDS case they might reference the HL decision.

A third option would be an abortion provider who is a member of the church could use the HL ruling with their closely held / LLC / et al clinic. That would a much more creative and effective use of the system. Any provider could use an appellate or Supreme Court ruling at the district level to effectively kill the requirement based upon Their church's stance.

As for letting any person print out the letter from the website, again, I doubt it.  Each woman, or at least a woman, would have to sue to set the precedent.  Now it gets interesting I think.  If they are not a member of a church that has had precedent set for it's members I would think they'd have to sue and show it was a sincerely held religious belief.  Expensive and the abortion provider would probably have to deny the abortion until a district judge made a ruling - that might take only a few days, but I'd think that would be bad precedent, it would be an easy way to delay things so you'd expect more required reading a laws.

Kudos for creative thinking though.

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Re: Satanists Turn Hobby Lobby Ruling Upside-down
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2014, 10:25:43 am »
Quote from: Altair;154163
I've been watching the shenanigans of Lucien Greaves's Satanic Temple in the press with increasing interest. I am now officially in love.

Satanists want to use Hobby Lobby decision to exempt women from anti-abortion laws

"In a statement, the Satanic Temple said that it will use the Supreme Court’s recent Hobby Lobby decision to exempt its believers from state-mandated informed consent laws that require women considering abortions to read pro-life material."

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/28/satanists-want-to-use-hobby-lobby-decision-to-exempt-women-from-anti-abortion-laws/#.U9ZIZ1NFzlw.twitter

They may be unlikely to prevail, but you never know. They certainly get points for creative thinking!

 
Interesting group. Hardly rebellious or antinmian as you'd expect from a Satanic temple, but they are getting shit done.

Apparently they won the right to distribute Satanic tracts to schoolchildren. Huzzah!

Nothing lile my lot at all, they seem to be atheistic symbolic Satanists like the LaVeyans, but nicer and socially responsible.

Still, a victory for my side. Huzzah!

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Re: Satanists Turn Hobby Lobby Ruling Upside-down
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2014, 11:47:04 am »
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And there's the guy who led a pagan invocation at a county commission meeting in Florida.

:ange::whis:

That was beautiful. I don't share his faith, but I would hve almost hummed along to that prayer. <3 Kudos to him.
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Re: Satanists Turn Hobby Lobby Ruling Upside-down
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2014, 04:39:37 pm »
Quote from: Altair;154163
I've been watching the shenanigans of Lucien Greaves's Satanic Temple in the press with increasing interest. I am now officially in love.

Satanists want to use Hobby Lobby decision to exempt women from anti-abortion laws

"In a statement, the Satanic Temple said that it will use the Supreme Court’s recent Hobby Lobby decision to exempt its believers from state-mandated informed consent laws that require women considering abortions to read pro-life material."

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/28/satanists-want-to-use-hobby-lobby-decision-to-exempt-women-from-anti-abortion-laws/#.U9ZIZ1NFzlw.twitter

They may be unlikely to prevail, but you never know. They certainly get points for creative thinking!

 
Satanists, this group in particular, keep getting more irritating with each passing day.

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Re: Satanists Turn Hobby Lobby Ruling Upside-down
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2014, 04:46:19 pm »
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Satanists, this group in particular, keep getting more irritating with each passing day.

 
You think women who want abortions should be forced to read pro life material?
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