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Author Topic: Pat Robertson Strikes Again  (Read 5367 times)

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Re: Pat Robertson Strikes Again...
« Reply #30 on: September 22, 2011, 06:33:44 pm »
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Or struck down for putting words in his deity's mouth.  Which ever would be more entertaining.

 
Ultimately, both at the same time would be the most entertaining...... :ange:
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Re: Pat Robertson Strikes Again...
« Reply #31 on: September 27, 2011, 07:00:43 pm »
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http://news.yahoo.com/pat-robertson-says-alzheimers-makes-divorce-ok-000952197.html

  * head desk *      Will he Ever stop with the nonesense ?  !   Guess i'm still of the 'old school' where a promise - was a vow - was a committment - was to be held to.

 
I'm not 100% sure on Alzheimers, but I have some unfortunate experience with dementia.

My grandma has this, and she's not truly the same person. Sometimes I feel like she's just an empty shell with fingerprints of what used to be her. It's really hard.

It's easy to say that you'll always be there them, but living with someone with mental degeneration is miserable. Here's someone you've loved all your life, but they're not the same person anymore.

I used to clean her house when her knee was having issues, help make her food, but she couldn't appreciate it. When one of her cats died (he was 15 years old!) she accused me of poisoning it. She would call me names, said I've never done anything for her and would credit my other siblings for the clean house. "Why can't you be more like your brother?" She never said those things before she had dementia.She used to be really sweet...

Now, you can say I should have done nice things for her without expecting credit for them...but going there and being told how I'm a heartless, godless girl who killed her cat? Only so much I can take.

Then my grandma started endangering herself and and couldn't even bathe herself so a nursing home was inevitable. Any visit would just end in her throwing a temper tantrum. She never remembered previous visits. She'd just yell at us for not coming sooner, even if we were there the day before.

So when I think of a husband leaving a wife with mental degeneration, I have to consider what life must be like for him. Your spouse is one of the most important persons through your life, and when their mind goes their face is just a reminder of someone they've lost...because they're really not the same person anymore.

As long as he puts the wife in the best nursing home they can afford (or hire an in-home nurse) I find it hard to make a monster out of the guy. He shouldn't have to live the rest of his days miserable should he?

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Re: Pat Robertson Strikes Again...
« Reply #32 on: September 27, 2011, 07:12:36 pm »
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As long as he puts the wife in the best nursing home they can afford (or hire an in-home nurse) I find it hard to make a monster out of the guy. He shouldn't have to live the rest of his days miserable should he?


I don't find it hard at all if the idiot is supposed to be Christian. Small matter of those vows he took before his god.
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Re: Pat Robertson Strikes Again...
« Reply #33 on: September 27, 2011, 07:15:54 pm »
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As long as he puts the wife in the best nursing home they can afford (or hire an in-home nurse) I find it hard to make a monster out of the guy. He shouldn't have to live the rest of his days miserable should he?


Of course not, but that isn't the point.  Here's a guy who 'doesn't believe in' divorce because his god decreed against it.  He is being hypocritical by declaring this particular loophole.  There are many other good reasons for divorce he does not acknowledge, but he has decided that since mental degeneration is 'like' death it doesn't contravene the 'til death do us part' part of marriage.  It makes me wonder what other things he will find convenient to declare to be 'like death', depending on what his financial supporters want.

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Re: Pat Robertson Strikes Again...
« Reply #34 on: September 27, 2011, 07:24:37 pm »
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Of course not, but that isn't the point.  Here's a guy who 'doesn't believe in' divorce because his god decreed against it.  He is being hypocritical by declaring this particular loophole.  There are many other good reasons for divorce he does not acknowledge, but he has decided that since mental degeneration is 'like' death it doesn't contravene the 'til death do us part' part of marriage.  It makes me wonder what other things he will find convenient to declare to be 'like death', depending on what his financial supporters want.

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Re: Pat Robertson Strikes Again...
« Reply #35 on: September 27, 2011, 08:03:38 pm »
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http://news.yahoo.com/pat-robertson-says-alzheimers-makes-divorce-ok-000952197.html

  * head desk *      Will he Ever stop with the nonesense ?  !   Guess i'm still of the 'old school' where a promise - was a vow - was a committment - was to be held to.

 
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I don't find it hard at all if the idiot is supposed to be Christian. Small matter of those vows he took before his god.

 
Ah, I see. I didn't read through the entire thread, so I was just going by the OP's "Guess i'm still of the 'old school' where a promise - was a vow - was a committment - was to be held to." I thought that was the OP's words. Oopsie daisy.

Guess I'm just used to hearing excuses for un-Christian behavior through personal interpretations,too. My family are crazy southern baptists =P

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Re: Pat Robertson Strikes Again...
« Reply #36 on: September 28, 2011, 11:27:36 am »
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http://news.yahoo.com/pat-robertson-says-alzheimers-makes-divorce-ok-000952197.html

What I got out of his this statement was, it's fine to toss her on the rubbish heap when she's lost her usefulness. Especially if you have to take care of her now. After all, it's the wife's job to take care of the husband! Since she can't do that anymore, she's worthless. She might as well be dead.

However, since she's not actually dead you'd better get a divorce first because infidelity is still a sin. Don't worry, god will understand that she's dead to you. He won't hold you to your vows, so long as you make it legal.

Even though the legalities of marriage are supposed to be less important than the "in the eyes of god" part... isn't that one of their arguments against SSM?

Oh, and what about all that right to life BS when it comes to life support and abortion? Um okay, someone who can't breath for themselves, has no brain function and will never wake up is a living person. A three week old fetus is a living person, but an Alzheimer's patient is "kind of" dead?

You can't have it both ways Pat, so pick a stance and stick to it or STFU!

Ugh, hypocritical BS from the wingnuts never fails to piss me off. Sorry, rant over.
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Re: Pat Robertson Strikes Again...
« Reply #37 on: September 28, 2011, 05:58:21 pm »
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Oh, and what about all that right to life BS when it comes to life support and abortion? Um okay, someone who can't breath for themselves, has no brain function and will never wake up is a living person. A three week old fetus is a living person, but an Alzheimer's patient is "kind of" dead?

You can't have it both ways Pat, so pick a stance and stick to it or STFU!

Of course they can have it both ways -- after all, Pat has a direct line to God and if Pat says it, God surely agrees. ::sigh:: I've actually heard just about that from Pat's supporters.
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Pat Robertson Strikes Again
« Reply #38 on: September 28, 2011, 06:10:47 pm »
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Of course they can have it both ways -- after all, Pat has a direct line to God and if Pat says it, God surely agrees. ::sigh:: I've actually heard just about that from Pat's supporters.

 
Is anyone else imagining God yelling "Stop calling me!" and slamming down his phone?  And then the phone rings again, so God tells Pat something horrible as a way to punish him?


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Re: Pat Robertson Strikes Again...
« Reply #39 on: September 28, 2011, 06:19:36 pm »
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Is anyone else imagining God yelling "Stop calling me!" and slamming down his phone?

 
*snicker*

Goes along with the sentiment "Jesus, save me from your followers!"
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Re: Pat Robertson Strikes Again...
« Reply #40 on: September 30, 2011, 08:55:59 am »
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Is anyone else imagining God yelling "Stop calling me!" and slamming down his phone?  And then the phone rings again, so God tells Pat something horrible as a way to punish him?

 
I've been envisioning the first bit all through this thread (it follows "I wish he would strike" like night follows day, in my mind).  The second bit hadn't occurred to me - it's a gratifying image... though on second thought, I'm not sure how well the "punish" part is working.  (Mysterious ways, maybe, and mills grinding slowly but exceeding small.)

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Re: Pat Robertson Strikes Again...
« Reply #41 on: September 30, 2011, 04:13:09 pm »
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The second bit hadn't occurred to me - it's a gratifying image... though on second thought, I'm not sure how well the "punish" part is working.  (Mysterious ways, maybe, and mills grinding slowly but exceeding small.)

 
As a way to discredit him by making him look crazy to anyone who is not one of his followers?


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Re: Pat Robertson Strikes Again...
« Reply #42 on: October 01, 2011, 07:11:00 am »
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As a way to discredit him by making him look crazy to anyone who is not one of his followers?

 
Yeah, but the trouble is that he doesn't give a shit what us godless sinners think of him, so it doesn't have a punishing effect.

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Re: Pat Robertson Strikes Again...
« Reply #43 on: October 01, 2011, 07:18:26 am »
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Yeah, but the trouble is that he doesn't give a shit what us godless sinners think of him, so it doesn't have a punishing effect.

 
Oh well, maybe God just has a spot for him ready in hell.


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Re: Pat Robertson Strikes Again...
« Reply #44 on: October 01, 2011, 04:01:12 pm »
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Oh well, maybe God just has a spot for him ready in hell.

 
Well, he is....um, special. :whis:
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