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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2000292/Men-allowed-sex-slaves-female-prisoners-job--WOMAN-politician-Kuwait.html

This is from The Daily Mail today. I could not believe what I was reading! But, I would like to hear other people's opinions of this article's contents, no matter what the point of view.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2000292/Men-allowed-sex-slaves-female-prisoners-job--WOMAN-politician-Kuwait.html

This is from The Daily Mail today. I could not believe what I was reading! But, I would like to hear other people's opinions of this article's contents, no matter what the point of view.

 
'They said, that’s right, the only solution for a decent man who has the means, who is overpowered by desire and who does not want to commit fornication, is to acquire jawari.' Jawari is the plural of the Arabic term jariya, meaning 'concubine' or 'sex slave'.

Or perhaps they could exercise self control.

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'They said, that’s right, the only solution for a decent man who has the means, who is overpowered by desire and who does not want to commit fornication, is to acquire jawari.' Jawari is the plural of the Arabic term jariya, meaning 'concubine' or 'sex slave'.

Or perhaps they could exercise self control.

 
What got me in this particular part is the definition- what is the difference between sex and fornication? :confused:
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What got me in this particular part is the definition- what is the difference between sex and fornication? :confused:

 
I would assume that their argument is that if he OWNS them, it's *okay sex*.  If it's some hooker that actually expects to get paid, it's *evil bad nasty sex*.

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This is from The Daily Mail today. I could not believe what I was reading! But, I would like to hear other people's opinions of this article's contents, no matter what the point of view.

She sounds like she's Kuwait's version of Rush Limbaugh since she is a "political activist and TV host". It also sounds like quite a few people in Kuwait -- of both sexes -- do not think much of the idea.
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I would assume that their argument is that if he OWNS them, it's *okay sex*.  If it's some hooker that actually expects to get paid, it's *evil bad nasty sex*.

 
and if it's short (few hours) duration marriage with a dowry it's not prostitution.

But back to the article.

She's advocating using POWs. that would result in the total destruction of her country and the legitimate killing of every person who is a citizen of it.

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and if it's short (few hours) duration marriage with a dowry it's not prostitution.

But back to the article.

She's advocating using POWs. that would result in the total destruction of her country and the legitimate killing of every person who is a citizen of it.

 
Also, the sex slaves are required to be 'non-muslim'.

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She's advocating using POWs. that would result in the total destruction of her country and the legitimate killing of every person who is a citizen of it.

Actually, she's apparently not advocating using POWs captured by Kuwait, but POW captured by other countries and bought from them by Kuwait slavers. While I'm not an expert on international law, I suspect the country selling its POWs would be one committing the war crime -- especially if the government of Kuwait was not the one buying the POWs.
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She sounds like she's Kuwait's version of Rush Limbaugh since she is a "political activist and TV host". It also sounds like quite a few people in Kuwait -- of both sexes -- do not think much of the idea.

Ack, I would hope she doesn't have the popularity of Rush limbaugh.  Although against this, some of the crazier things Limbaugh says make sense.
« Last Edit: July 17, 2012, 08:22:00 am by mandrina »
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2000292/Men-allowed-sex-slaves-female-prisoners-job--WOMAN-politician-Kuwait.html

This is from The Daily Mail today. I could not believe what I was reading! But, I would like to hear other people's opinions of this article's contents, no matter what the point of view.

 
It doesn't surprise me that she has to go all the way back to the 8th Century to bring up an example of this.

Gods forbid Kuwaiti men should ever have to exercise an ounce of self-control.  If they can't keep their own loins in check and have to own fellow human beings in order to satisfy their own lusts then I'd say they're hardly even men - more like big pubescent teenagers.

Good to know this Dark Age stupidity isn't even being taken seriously by Kuwaitis.
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Also, the sex slaves are required to be 'non-muslim'.

 
What happens if the sex slaves convert to Islam?
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Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but I think porn and prostitutes are better for married men who need to get their rocks off without threatening the marriage with the possibility of romance. Keeping slaves in these modern times will not make you very popular with the human rights activists.

I think it's easy for us to whine about how wrong and what a terrible person she is, but she lives in a culture that is very oppressive to women, marriages are probably arranged, and war is common. In her mind, this seems like a good way to put prisoners of war to use, since they are going to exist anyway. It's not unusual in any culture for married men to go to mistresses, concubines, and prostitutes, especially when people don't marry for mutual affection in the first place. I just think it's unfortunate she doesn't agree with prostitution, since it does the job without getting slavery involved.

Also, there seems to be vocabulary or translation issues. A concubine is more of an unofficial wife than a slave, so I don't see why they are being equated. Maybe the news media uses the word "slave" to sound more dramatic and get us westerners are riled up.
 
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What got me in this particular part is the definition- what is the difference between sex and fornication? :confused:

I think fornication is sex out of wedlock.
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Also, there seems to be vocabulary or translation issues. A concubine is more of an unofficial wife than a slave, so I don't see why they are being equated. Maybe the news media uses the word "slave" to sound more dramatic and get us westerners are riled up.
 



 they are talking about using prisoners of war and  'the man just buys her and that’s it. That’s enough to serve as marriage.' that sounds like a slave to me.  THe difference between a slave and a concubine is often just the duties required of her.
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Actually, she's apparently not advocating using POWs captured by Kuwait, but POW captured by other countries and bought from them by Kuwait slavers. While I'm not an expert on international law, I suspect the country selling its POWs would be one committing the war crime -- especially if the government of Kuwait was not the one buying the POWs.

 
Actually their is a big sex slave market already operating with mostly young Russian women as the victims. This crap is legal, legitimate, and ethical by Sharia law.
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