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Re: 'Youngsters lured into the world of Satan by Halloween'
« Reply #30 on: October 29, 2013, 07:05:27 pm »
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I think Sunflower would have more complete knowledge on this, but given that he lived and died before the modern gay rights movement, it really wouldn't surprise me if Gardner didn't approve of homosexuality.

Some branches of trad Wicca have had problems with homosexuality over the years. For exactly the reason listed: the lack of male-female polarity.
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« Reply #31 on: October 29, 2013, 08:03:08 pm »
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given that he lived and died before the modern gay rights movement, it really wouldn't surprise me if Gardner didn't approve of homosexuality.

Sadly he was a bit homophobic. Fortunately that wasn't something that was picked up by the lines of BTW that trace back to him.

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« Reply #32 on: October 30, 2013, 04:20:01 pm »
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Sadly he was a bit homophobic. Fortunately that wasn't something that was picked up by the lines of BTW that trace back to him.

What's BTW? I kmow there's a thread of abbreviations floating around here somewhere, but I'm on Tapatalk at the moment.
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Re: 'Youngsters lured into the world of Satan by Halloween'
« Reply #33 on: October 30, 2013, 04:23:08 pm »
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What's BTW? I kmow there's a thread of abbreviations floating around here somewhere, but I'm on Tapatalk at the moment.

 
British Traditional Wicca, in this context. Term more broadly used in the US than elsewhere to describe the lines of practice that descend from Gardner. (Namely, Gardnerian and Alexandrian, but also a few less well known ones like Central Valley Wicca.)

(Also sometimes 'by the way' in more general conversation.)
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Re: 'Youngsters lured into the world of Satan by Halloween'
« Reply #34 on: October 30, 2013, 04:27:23 pm »
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British Traditional Wicca, in this context. Term more broadly used in the US than elsewhere to describe the lines of practice that descend from Gardner. (Namely, Gardnerian and Alexandrian, but also a few less well known ones like Central Valley Wicca.)

(Also sometimes 'by the way' in more general conversation.)

 
I knew it meant by the way, I just didn't know in this context. But thanks! I'm gonna go search for that thread now.
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Re: 'Youngsters lured into the world of Satan by Halloween'
« Reply #35 on: November 04, 2013, 12:49:34 pm »
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Some branches of trad Wicca have had problems with homosexuality over the years. For exactly the reason listed: the lack of male-female polarity.

 
Hine has a selection of homophobic occult quotes on his website- http://www.philhine.org.uk/writings/flsh_phobia.html

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Re: 'Youngsters lured into the world of Satan by Halloween'
« Reply #36 on: November 04, 2013, 02:38:16 pm »
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Hine has a selection of homophobic occult quotes on his website- http://www.philhine.org.uk/writings/flsh_phobia.html

On dear old Kevin, I think my favourite thing was when he decided to exorcise Crowley's bed for being TEH BED OF EVUL!

 
Well, Crowley was bisexual...


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Re: 'Youngsters lured into the world of Satan by Halloween'
« Reply #37 on: November 18, 2013, 09:18:51 am »
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I think Sunflower would have more complete knowledge on this, but given that he lived and died before the modern gay rights movement, it really wouldn't surprise me if Gardner didn't approve of homosexuality.

 
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Yes. From all accounts I've run across, it was internalized culturally-endemic attitudes, not personal animosity, and by-and-large shared by his coveners in those days, usually in the form(s) that passed for 'enlightened' at the time - which of course weren't very, by our standards or even by those of a decade or two later.

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