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Gods, Goddesses, and Mythology / Re: Angry Gods
« Last post by arete on Today at 03:46:29 pm »
In Hinduism, the Gods don't get mad very often, but when they do - oh, boy they do - and it's not always for the best reasons. Sometimes, somebody just does something to really tick them off. Shiva in particular is prone to fits of rage, which he often directs at mortals or even other gods.

For example, the reason Ganesha has an elephant head is because Shiva cut his human head off. He decapitated his own son - an act which then made Ganesha's mother quite mad at Shiva, and led her (and Vishnu, in some versions of the story) to force Shiva to find Ganesha a new head. So yeah, the Gods can get a little irate in Hindu mythology as well.
Hindu Gods have feelings like the greek Gods.  ;)
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Gods, Goddesses, and Mythology / Re: Angry Gods
« Last post by arete on Today at 03:43:49 pm »
Mythology offers some mixed signals about how just or how petty the Gods may be. The relationship between pagan Gods and morality is a complex one, often not explicitly defined in historical sources. There is evidence for combined religious/ legal functions in many societies, which would seem to place the Gods in the role of judges.

Beyond that, deities portrayed in mythology can be said to embody the cultural values of their listeners. If the behavior of Zeus seems wrong today, that’s because the myths are depicting him as the archaic or classical Greeks imagined the ideal king. Not as we would. So there’s always some subjectivity.

I think some of those traditional values remain constant. Respect for family (Within reason.) Loyalty, honesty, courage, hospitality towards the lost and the tired. Etc. You don’t throw a wanderer out of your house or refuse them a morsel when you’re the only one who can offer them shelter. There are many myths of Gods testing mortal hospitality. Some of these values could be applied to modern situations, like refugees for example. (That’s my opinion.)
In Slavic religion, what makes the Gods angry?
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Gods, Goddesses, and Mythology / Re: Benevolent Gods
« Last post by Riothamus12 on Today at 10:09:11 am »
I think this is key. In Christian theology, along with that endlessly benevolent deity comes its endlessly evil counterpart; pagan deities are often much more in shades of gray--that complexity to which you alluded.

As for why then interact with them/what do we get from them--

--We can see ourselves in them, our reflection writ large in a cosmic mirror, and thus get a better understanding of ourselves
--We can feel a stronger connection to the universe around us
--We can learn from their myths, negatively ("don't follow my example on this one, because boy did that turn out like crap when I did it") and positively

Personally, I have a hard time relating to perfection in either direction. The most interesting heroes are always the flawed ones, and the most interesting villains are always the ones who have some redeeming quality or whose villainy springs from something more human than Being Pure Evil.

The one thing I've observed in many legends and ancient cultures is that more-a-less the Deities ARE considered benevolent, though to ancient cultures what "benevolence" looks like is very different. I would say I have not seen a Deity who is not benevolent. As a matter of fact, there are many esoteric traditions for which the notion that good or benevolence does not always take the forms we assume they will is key. You see that in forms of Buddhism, Hinduism, Paganism, and western esotericism. Humans have a way of thinking that all things must be centered through the view of mortals, but such is not the case. The world may not be utterly incomprehensible to human logic, but it does not hinge on it either. One needs to start thinking on a cosmic scale to truly begin to grasp such things. In other words, one must try to think as if they were a Deity.
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Religious News / Edain McCoy 1957-2019
« Last post by Darkhawk on Today at 09:52:11 am »
Pagan author Edain McCoy has passed from the flu.

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Gods, Goddesses, and Mythology / Re: Angry Gods
« Last post by EnderDragonFire on Today at 03:50:16 am »
What about other religions? What makes the Gods angry?

In Hinduism, the Gods don't get mad very often, but when they do - oh, boy they do - and it's not always for the best reasons. Sometimes, somebody just does something to really tick them off. Shiva in particular is prone to fits of rage, which he often directs at mortals or even other gods.

For example, the reason Ganesha has an elephant head is because Shiva cut his human head off. He decapitated his own son - an act which then made Ganesha's mother quite mad at Shiva, and led her (and Vishnu, in some versions of the story) to force Shiva to find Ganesha a new head. So yeah, the Gods can get a little irate in Hindu mythology as well.
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Holidays and Festivals / Re: Equinox & Full Moon--Together!
« Last post by ehbowen on Today at 12:14:48 am »
Definitely felt it with my students on Tuesday. They were super energetic and off the walls. Except the class that usually is like that wasn't ... They were calm as still water. Very strange.

I will say that I've felt a personal energetic shift. More energy, more patience and optimism, and communications. Very grateful for all that now.

Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
Only tangentially related, but about ten years back we had a Halloween "trunk or treat" at our church for the local kids, along with a small carnival and a DJ. That night was perfectly clear with one of the biggest full moons I ever remember. I went to the disc jockey and said, "I think I see a Bad Moon Rising!" He agreed, and a little CCR went on the program that night!

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Paganism For Beginners / Re: Afraid I offended the god and goddess?
« Last post by Eastling on Yesterday at 06:34:24 pm »
I actually, if you have an extant relationship with Anup (Anubis), would guess from what you've said that He might be very good for you.  He is one of the kindest gods I have ever encountered, and has the sort of patience that only someone who literally has all the time in the world can manifest.  He's a very calming presence (if a bit prone to meaningful staring) and He might well be able to help you with calmness.

The death of a pet also strikes me as something that would stir Anup/Anubis to ask someone's attention again. I certainly don't mean that he'd be vengeful about it, but rather that he would be near and present, perhaps even as a source of support, in the ensuing liminal period.
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Paganism For Beginners / Re: Afraid I offended the god and goddess?
« Last post by Darkhawk on Yesterday at 06:14:09 pm »
I don’t really have a specific god in my mind at the moment, though I worshipped Him for a while as Anubis so I suppose starting there would be good. I never made any formal commitments, and like I said my ability to stop and breathe for a minute is rather lacking, as was my reliability with giving offerings, so at this point I’m pretty sure I’ve made the gods well aware that I’m a total scatterbrained ninny.

I actually, if you have an extant relationship with Anup (Anubis), would guess from what you've said that He might be very good for you.  He is one of the kindest gods I have ever encountered, and has the sort of patience that only someone who literally has all the time in the world can manifest.  He's a very calming presence (if a bit prone to meaningful staring) and He might well be able to help you with calmness.
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Gods, Goddesses, and Mythology / Re: Angry Gods
« Last post by Zlote Jablko on Yesterday at 05:58:44 pm »
In greek religion, Gods become angry when we perform evil acts. The story of Tantalus killing his son and offering him to the Gods shows that Gods do not take evil actions lightly. They punished Tantalus and brought his son back to life. Gods do not become angry with us over trivial things. Tartara awaits for people who offend the very nature of what we call life.

What about other religions? What makes the Gods angry?

Mythology offers some mixed signals about how just or how petty the Gods may be. The relationship between pagan Gods and morality is a complex one, often not explicitly defined in historical sources. There is evidence for combined religious/ legal functions in many societies, which would seem to place the Gods in the role of judges.

Beyond that, deities portrayed in mythology can be said to embody the cultural values of their listeners. If the behavior of Zeus seems wrong today, that’s because the myths are depicting him as the archaic or classical Greeks imagined the ideal king. Not as we would. So there’s always some subjectivity.

I think some of those traditional values remain constant. Respect for family (Within reason.) Loyalty, honesty, courage, hospitality towards the lost and the tired. Etc. You don’t throw a wanderer out of your house or refuse them a morsel when you’re the only one who can offer them shelter. There are many myths of Gods testing mortal hospitality. Some of these values could be applied to modern situations, like refugees for example. (That’s my opinion.)

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Holidays and Festivals / Re: Equinox & Full Moon--Together!
« Last post by TheGreenWizard on Yesterday at 03:44:55 pm »
The March equinox (spring equinox in the northern hemisphere, fall equinox in the southern) occurs today, the 20th, at 5:58 pm EST...while the moon reaches peak fullness only a few hours later, at 9:43 pm EST, so that they effectively coincide.

Major astronomical mojo!
Definitely felt it with my students on Tuesday. They were super energetic and off the walls. Except the class that usually is like that wasn't ... They were calm as still water. Very strange.

I will say that I've felt a personal energetic shift. More energy, more patience and optimism, and communications. Very grateful for all that now.

Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk

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