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"US Unemployment is back under 8%" my goddamned ass.
« on: August 10, 2014, 08:10:04 pm »
While 2 months is hardly any particularly long stretch of unemployment, it is when I'm no longer have the Mommy ATM. My boyfriend doesn't make enough to support both of us, so I've been on the search since the day Pet Supplies Plus fired me. But no matter where I apply, NO ONE is looking for... me. They're all supposedly hiring, just not a 20-something college dropout.

I'd found a shelter looking for a kennel assistant (basically cleaning the cages) last week, applied, had the interview, and never got a call back. Brief explanation of my animal qualifications: I was a junior (high school) vet's assistant type thing for 5 years. Half my time there was spent in the kennels doing exactly what this job is looking for. I learned to give IVs, liquid and pill medicines, basically everything but the actual Doctor Stuff. Seriously, FIVE FREAKING YEARS of kennel and vet work isn't enough?

I'm still doing everything mundane, actively searching and applying, but I'm just so sick of this crap. Prayers/good vibes would be nice, plus maybe any magical tips? I'm seriously considering virgin* sacrifices to find a stupid job.

*Boyfriend's brother would be a good candidate. (Please also note that I'm KIDDING.)
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Re: "US Unemployment is back under 8%" my goddamned ass.
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2014, 08:31:58 pm »
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While 2 months is hardly any particularly long stretch of unemployment, it is when I'm no longer have the Mommy ATM. My boyfriend doesn't make enough to support both of us, so I've been on the search since the day Pet Supplies Plus fired me. But no matter where I apply, NO ONE is looking for... me. They're all supposedly hiring, just not a 20-something college dropout.

I'd found a shelter looking for a kennel assistant (basically cleaning the cages) last week, applied, had the interview, and never got a call back. Brief explanation of my animal qualifications: I was a junior (high school) vet's assistant type thing for 5 years. Half my time there was spent in the kennels doing exactly what this job is looking for. I learned to give IVs, liquid and pill medicines, basically everything but the actual Doctor Stuff. Seriously, FIVE FREAKING YEARS of kennel and vet work isn't enough?


Before I respond to your request below, I detect hostility in your post above, is that for this posting only, or is that what you project at the interviews?

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I'm still doing everything mundane, actively searching and applying, but I'm just so sick of this crap. Prayers/good vibes would be nice, plus maybe any magical tips? I'm seriously considering virgin* sacrifices to find a stupid job.

*Boyfriend's brother would be a good candidate. (Please also note that I'm KIDDING.)
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Re: "US Unemployment is back under 8%" my goddamned ass.
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2014, 08:34:44 pm »
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Before I respond to your request below, I detect hostility in your post above, is that for this posting only, or is that what you project at the interviews?

 
Just this thread. I'm actually pretty decent at controlling my emotions when I need to, so no hostility at any interviews. I'm nothing but an obscenely happy-go-lucky and motivated Sasha at interviews.
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Re: "US Unemployment is back under 8%" my goddamned ass.
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2014, 08:40:52 pm »
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I'm still doing everything mundane, actively searching and applying, but I'm just so sick of this crap. Prayers/good vibes would be nice, plus maybe any magical tips?

Unemployment's hard (had a year of that, ending three years ago.) And job searching is hard on the ego.

I highly recommend http://askamanager.org to anyone who's job hunting - both because she (and most of the commenters) have great advice, but also because it's helped me get a lot more perspective (both in that job hunt and my current one) on what's normal in the job hunt and what might be me.

It is annoyingly but totally normal to go have an interview and not hear back when you thought you might. It happens over and over and over. Sometimes it means someone who is a necessary part of the decision chain is sick or on vacation or had a crisis.

Sometimes it means that they're negotiating with their first choice and you're their second, and they might come talk to you if the first choice turns them down (and sometimes what makes someone be a first choice is really tiny - it might be they already worked there previously, or that they have some tiny piece of experience already that you don't, and you'd also be awesome.)
 
When I was on the year-long hunt, I discovered my responses went *way* up after I did two things. 1) Followed Alison Green's (the author of askamanager.org)'s advice about cover letters, and 2) Did more work on projects that made me confident about my ability to see projects through.

(In my case, that was doing the initial work putting together my Seeking site and the initial run of Paganicon - I don't talk about the Pagan bits in interviews, but I do talk about event running and community outreach when it's relevant.)

My current job hunt, I'm at 4 interviews for 14 applications so far, in a very tight professional field, and with a bunch of factors that might not make an an attractive candidate at first sight (since I'm working on moving at the same time, and generally someone who has to move will often lose out to someone local with the same basic experience/skills.)

Magically, I focus on the "Here are the things I want in a job, here are the things I can *give* a job" projection, and on using various techniques to make sure I focus on what I really want (a particular kind of work environment in my field) rather than getting hung up on a particular position. There are days that's definitely hard, but attitude is a thing you can definitely affect magically, and it makes such a huge difference.
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Re: "US Unemployment is back under 8%" my goddamned ass.
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2014, 08:49:50 pm »
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Just this thread. I'm actually pretty decent at controlling my emotions when I need to, so no hostility at any interviews. I'm nothing but an obscenely happy-go-lucky and motivated Sasha at interviews.

 
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Re: "US Unemployment is back under 8%" my goddamned ass.
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2014, 10:23:28 pm »
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While 2 months is hardly any particularly long stretch of unemployment, it is when I'm no longer have the Mommy ATM. My boyfriend doesn't make enough to support both of us, so I've been on the search since the day Pet Supplies Plus fired me. But no matter where I apply, NO ONE is looking for... me. They're all supposedly hiring, just not a 20-something college dropout.

I'd found a shelter looking for a kennel assistant (basically cleaning the cages) last week, applied, had the interview, and never got a call back. Brief explanation of my animal qualifications: I was a junior (high school) vet's assistant type thing for 5 years. Half my time there was spent in the kennels doing exactly what this job is looking for. I learned to give IVs, liquid and pill medicines, basically everything but the actual Doctor Stuff. Seriously, FIVE FREAKING YEARS of kennel and vet work isn't enough?

I'm still doing everything mundane, actively searching and applying, but I'm just so sick of this crap. Prayers/good vibes would be nice, plus maybe any magical tips? I'm seriously considering virgin* sacrifices to find a stupid job.

*Boyfriend's brother would be a good candidate. (Please also note that I'm KIDDING.)


 
I went through 4 months. No family help, no second income in the place. If the people at TC hadn't hauled my ass out of the fire, I'd have been SOL. I completely sympathize, and I hope you find something soon.

Also you said your last job was retail. I'm in retail management and would be more than happy to do a practice interview with you via Skype sometime if it would help you.
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Re: "US Unemployment is back under 8%" my goddamned ass.
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2014, 10:53:37 pm »
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While 2 months is hardly any particularly long stretch of unemployment, it is when I'm no longer have the Mommy ATM. My boyfriend doesn't make enough to support both of us, so I've been on the search since the day Pet Supplies Plus fired me. But no matter where I apply, NO ONE is looking for... me. They're all supposedly hiring, just not a 20-something college dropout.

I'd found a shelter looking for a kennel assistant (basically cleaning the cages) last week, applied, had the interview, and never got a call back. Brief explanation of my animal qualifications: I was a junior (high school) vet's assistant type thing for 5 years. Half my time there was spent in the kennels doing exactly what this job is looking for. I learned to give IVs, liquid and pill medicines, basically everything but the actual Doctor Stuff. Seriously, FIVE FREAKING YEARS of kennel and vet work isn't enough?

I'm still doing everything mundane, actively searching and applying, but I'm just so sick of this crap. Prayers/good vibes would be nice, plus maybe any magical tips? I'm seriously considering virgin* sacrifices to find a stupid job.

*Boyfriend's brother would be a good candidate. (Please also note that I'm KIDDING.)

 
Take in mind that I am only throwing out suggestions and do not know anything about you or the state you live:
 
The school system is starting up and substitutes are always in demand every state has certain requirements so you may not qualify, but it is a good job. Dealing with children is not that bad; they are more reasonable then some adults I've had to put up with/cater too.  

Healthcare jobs are always in demand, but there are start up costs for CPR certifications, background checks, and medical tests. I worked in home health care for two years; I was hired on the spot with no experience.  

Service industry. It sucks, but it's there when you need it. Fast food, sales, waiting tables...Anything to put food on the table while you look for something better. It is easier to get a job when you have a job.

Find where the government jobs are posted in your town and apply like crazy.

I listed nothing I haven't done. Good luck on your search.

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Re: "US Unemployment is back under 8%" my goddamned ass.
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2014, 12:02:02 am »
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I went through 4 months. No family help, no second income in the place. If the people at TC hadn't hauled my ass out of the fire, I'd have been SOL. I completely sympathize, and I hope you find something soon.

Also you said your last job was retail. I'm in retail management and would be more than happy to do a practice interview with you via Skype sometime if it would help you.

I may take you up on that offer. I'll let you know.

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Take in mind that I am only throwing out suggestions and do not know anything about you or the state you live:
 
The school system is starting up and substitutes are always in demand every state has certain requirements so you may not qualify, but it is a good job. Dealing with children is not that bad; they are more reasonable then some adults I've had to put up with/cater too.  

Healthcare jobs are always in demand, but there are start up costs for CPR certifications, background checks, and medical tests. I worked in home health care for two years; I was hired on the spot with no experience.  

Service industry. It sucks, but it's there when you need it. Fast food, sales, waiting tables...Anything to put food on the table while you look for something better. It is easier to get a job when you have a job.

Find where the government jobs are posted in your town and apply like crazy.

I listed nothing I haven't done. Good luck on your search.

CT schools require at least a Bachelor's, which I don't have, even as a substitute. So that option is out.

Unless the place that hires me offers to pay for or free certification, I can't even afford to follow that.

I worked for a diner for a few months as a hostess. Despite not making tips, they still paid me less than minimum wage, because restaurants and diners are tip-based. I could be a waitress, I suppose. It's too bad Hooters has a no visible tattoo policy. I'd make decent money doing that. :p

I've tried several government jobs, like receptionist at the local VA, but even they don't want a college dropout. I'm honestly starting to lose hope of ever finding a job and just apply for welfare or whatever.
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Re: "US Unemployment is back under 8%" my goddamned ass.
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2014, 12:29:26 am »
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I've tried several government jobs, like receptionist at the local VA, but even they don't want a college dropout.


Most likely the problem there is that it's not your field. A lot of people think admin work is an easy backup field to jump into, but you may be competing with people who have actually done reception/admin work for years and view it as their primary career. Not getting a bite for that isn't really a judgment on your.

I'm assuming you've tried temp agencies; does your local government have temp postings or get their temps somewhere in particular? Temp-to-perm is big in a lot of areas right now. I've gotten jobs that way, and it's how my wife found her current job.

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I'm honestly starting to lose hope of ever finding a job and just apply for welfare or whatever.

 
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Re: "US Unemployment is back under 8%" my goddamned ass.
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2014, 01:21:47 am »
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I'm honestly starting to lose hope of ever finding a job and just apply for welfare or whatever.

 
I'd actually strongly suggest applying for SNAP or welfare. If you're having a hard time making ends meet, it's only right that you should take the help that's available. You don't have to give up. In fact, I think it's required that you be looking for work to qualify.

Receiving financial assistance from the government is stigmatized in a way that I believe is morally reprehensible. I've personally known individuals who would not apply for Medicaid, SNAP, or welfare because they were too ashamed at the thought of receiving help from the government. They didn't want to be labeled parasites, failures, cheaters....so they just suffered.

Look at it this way. These programs are paid for with our taxes. You pay taxes, right? This is why. It's your money. You need to have some of it back now.
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Re: "US Unemployment is back under 8%" my goddamned ass.
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2014, 07:01:25 pm »
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I'm assuming you've tried temp agencies; does your local government have temp postings or get their temps somewhere in particular? Temp-to-perm is big in a lot of areas right now. I've gotten jobs that way, and it's how my wife found her current job.

 
Seconding this - this is how I got my job (and in a field I never would have thought of myself, but which turns out matches my strengths). Plus, even if the temp job is only a couple of days, that still might be the difference between rent and no rent.

The temp agency I was with also offered free online courses (things like MS Office and accounting) for their employees.

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Re: "US Unemployment is back under 8%" my goddamned ass.
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2014, 02:32:56 pm »
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I'd actually strongly suggest applying for SNAP or welfare. If you're having a hard time making ends meet, it's only right that you should take the help that's available. You don't have to give up. In fact, I think it's required that you be looking for work to qualify.

Receiving financial assistance from the government is stigmatized in a way that I believe is morally reprehensible. I've personally known individuals who would not apply for Medicaid, SNAP, or welfare because they were too ashamed at the thought of receiving help from the government. They didn't want to be labeled parasites, failures, cheaters....so they just suffered.

Look at it this way. These programs are paid for with our taxes. You pay taxes, right? This is why. It's your money. You need to have some of it back now.

 
I just got Medicaid (thank the gods) last month, and I just tried to apply for unemployment. Which would work quite well since I am actively looking for a job. This is what I found out:



Thank you, American government. :mad::mad::mad: (In case you couldn't tell, I'm a little pissed.)

I could technically apply for disability benefits, but that could take upwards of 5 months.



(On a random tangent, my legal name is Alexandra, but my new Medicaid card says "Alexander." And I can't get hold of anyone to fix it.)
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Re: "US Unemployment is back under 8%" my goddamned ass.
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2014, 02:41:40 pm »
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I just got Medicaid (thank the gods) last month, and I just tried to apply for unemployment. Which would work quite well since I am actively looking for a job. This is what I found out:

 
Just checking, since this is something that confuses a lot of people - have you applied for unemployment before? Or is this your first time (since your previous qualifying job, that is?)

The extension they're referring to in the big red text is an extension of regular benefits (basically, you can be on them for more time, though usually with some further obligations, like needing to demonstrate you're looking for more kinds of jobs more often.) It doesn't affect the initial unemployment claim.

If you've exhausted all your unemployment to date, then, yeah, you're stuck unless an extension is passed, but there might be other options available that aren't unemployment (sometimes it will qualify you for funds from county or state programs in other ways, for example.)
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« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2014, 02:43:59 pm »
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I just got Medicaid (thank the gods) last month, and I just tried to apply for unemployment. Which would work quite well since I am actively looking for a job....

I could technically apply for disability benefits, but that could take upwards of 5 months....

 
I'm really sorry that you're having such a shitty time with all this. It can be surprisingly difficult to get government assistance so I always cast side eye at those dodgy claims of welfare freeloading conservatives like to bring up. A lot of my family is (or has been) on various forms of welfare and they've usually only been given enough to skate by-- I don't know anyone who is thriving on it-- but it can definitely help in a bind (if you're able to receive it in a timely fashion, of course). In my family's experience, qualifying for disability is the hardest of all so I really wish you luck with that. I think it helps if you have solid documentation from your doctor (and a lawyer helps too-- but honestly if the person is applying for government assistance chances are they can't afford a lawyer).

I really hope everything works out for you.

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Re: "US Unemployment is back under 8%" my goddamned ass.
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2014, 03:00:37 pm »
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Just checking, since this is something that confuses a lot of people - have you applied for unemployment before? Or is this your first time (since your previous qualifying job, that is?)

The extension they're referring to in the big red text is an extension of regular benefits (basically, you can be on them for more time, though usually with some further obligations, like needing to demonstrate you're looking for more kinds of jobs more often.) It doesn't affect the initial unemployment claim.

If you've exhausted all your unemployment to date, then, yeah, you're stuck unless an extension is passed, but there might be other options available that aren't unemployment (sometimes it will qualify you for funds from county or state programs in other ways, for example.)

 
This is my first time filing. The other times I've been out of a job I still had that Mommy ATM going on, so I never needed it. Now I'm actually on my own (well, boyfriend doesn't make enough to support us both) and no one is hiring.

This is what it says when I fill out the first basic questions:

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The information you provided will not allow you access to the CT DOL Unemployment Insurance Claim System.

Please call your local TeleBenefits line to speak with a Customer Service Representative to resolve this issue.

And that only comes up about 5 times after it first says the information I entered doesn't match what they have on file. I'm on the phone with them right now.

If I'm understanding all the legality right, I can't apply for disability and unemployment at the same time, even though said disability doesn't prevent me from actively looking for a job.

And Sisu, I could technically get a lawyer, since Boyfriend's mom used to be one, so she could find me a good lawyer for this whole thing. They're on their way back from the Cayman Islands (lucky) right now, so when they come home I'll talk to her about disability vs unemployment.
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