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Author Topic: US politics and Coronavirus  (Read 1222 times)

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US politics and Coronavirus
« on: March 30, 2020, 05:27:17 pm »
A sudden question struck me ( bear in mind I'm somewhat isolated from US politics ).

Has the Coronavirus pandemic slowed the recent hardship and prejudice in the US?

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Re: US politics and Coronavirus
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2020, 08:49:16 pm »


A sudden question struck me ( bear in mind I'm somewhat isolated from US politics ).

Has the Coronavirus pandemic slowed the recent hardship and prejudice in the US?

Ha!

No. If anything, it's made inequality more pronounced.

For example, hundreds of thousands of people have been laid off and have applied for unemployment (including my husband, my daughter, and myself). That drastic cut in income will hit poorer people harder. A lot of laid off people are losing their health insurance, which will hit poorer people harder. And poorer people have fewer resources to simply cope with isolation, like computers, internet access, and TVs. There's much more, but that should give you the idea.

A huge portion of the workers currently considered "essential" are food service workers, grocery clerks, and delivery drivers - who tend to be part time, because companies deliberately limit hours to just under full time so they don't have to give benefits like paid sick leave and health insurance. So those people have to continue working in jobs that expose them to great risk, but they're the least likely to be able to take sick leave or get treated for illness. Which means they're more likely to work even while sick. (The relief bill that just passed is supposed to provide free coverage for coronavirus testing and treatment, which is good. But it doesn't do anything for people who have other illnesses or injuries.)

Plus, thanks to the Idiot-in-Chief, racism continues to increase, especially against people of Asian decent. Because people are often both stupid and evil.

So, no.

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Re: US politics and Coronavirus
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2020, 11:09:33 pm »

Ha!

No. If anything, it's made inequality more pronounced.

For example, hundreds of thousands of people have been laid off and have applied for unemployment (including my husband, my daughter, and myself). That drastic cut in income will hit poorer people harder. A lot of laid off people are losing their health insurance, which will hit poorer people harder. And poorer people have fewer resources to simply cope with isolation, like computers, internet access, and TVs. There's much more, but that should give you the idea.

A huge portion of the workers currently considered "essential" are food service workers, grocery clerks, and delivery drivers - who tend to be part time, because companies deliberately limit hours to just under full time so they don't have to give benefits like paid sick leave and health insurance. So those people have to continue working in jobs that expose them to great risk, but they're the least likely to be able to take sick leave or get treated for illness. Which means they're more likely to work even while sick. (The relief bill that just passed is supposed to provide free coverage for coronavirus testing and treatment, which is good. But it doesn't do anything for people who have other illnesses or injuries.)

Plus, thanks to the Idiot-in-Chief, racism continues to increase, especially against people of Asian decent. Because people are often both stupid and evil.

So, no.

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This. All of it.

Economic disparities have marked U.S. society increasingly and for a long time, but the COVID crisis has exacerbated them and made them crystal clear. Wealthier people with second homes have cleared out of the New York City and have holed up in those much less population-dense locations; I can't blame them (indeed, some are my friends), but it underscores the difference money makes in one's ability to successfully weather these hardships.

(And not just second homes; everything from the wealthy having bigger apartments so that families suddenly confined together 24/7 don't kill each other, to the wealthy tending to have the kinds of jobs that haven't been eliminated overnight by the lockdown, makes a difference. And I am not unaware of my own relative wealth and good fortune in all of this; my job is such that I still have one and can work remotely indefinitely, and my apartment has a roof garden--private outdoor space that is extraordinarily rare in this city and that. has. saved. my. sanity. For so many people in this town, the walls have just closed in.)

I keep thinking about 19th century Buenos Aires; I'd read many times how when yellow fever hit, all the wealthy moved out of the stricken old center of town, while the poor had no option but to remain and, for many of them, to die. And now, 150 years later in New York, I'm living it.
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Re: US politics and Coronavirus
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2020, 11:17:52 pm »
This. All of it.

Two things I need to add:

My fervent hope is that this crisis will *finally* bring nationalized health care to this country. That won't eliminate the gross economic disparities of living in the U.S., but it will at least give everyone a more equal chance at living at all.

And Donald Trump, as always without the slightest shred of evidence, has put forth in the midst of this crisis in a wounded city that personal protective equipment and ventilators are "walking out the back door" of hospitals. He is an unmitigated piece of shit.
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Re: US politics and Coronavirus
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2020, 11:23:49 pm »
Plus, thanks to the Idiot-in-Chief, racism continues to increase, especially against people of Asian decent. Because people are often both stupid and evil.

Not to mention:

  • Over fifty thousand people, mostly Latin Americans, are currently being detained in cramped, frequently inhumane conditions by ICE
  • Almost two and a half million people are currently in prison in the United States, many in inhumane and cramped conditions, and the majority of them Black (and otherwise nonwhite)
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Re: US politics and Coronavirus
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2020, 08:13:37 am »
I keep thinking about 19th century Buenos Aires

Your post made me think of my visit to the tenements museum there in NYC when I vacationed there (almost a couple of decades ago now).  Those were some cramped and awful conditions that don't bear thinking about, especially when you introduce the element of an illness like this one.

My friend, who's an even huger cynic than even me, for a long time believed that the only reason countries were barring international travel earlier on in the coronavirus outbreak was because of governmental institutional racism, and that it played into their narrative that "foreigners are the cause of all our problems" (i.e. the likes of Trump and our Tory government here).  I'm not sure whether she's revised that view now, in view of the scale of the pandemic and the virulence of this particular virus.


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Re: US politics and Coronavirus
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2020, 08:22:06 am »


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Re: US politics and Coronavirus
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2020, 11:56:41 pm »
  • Over fifty thousand people, mostly Latin Americans, are currently being detained in cramped, frequently inhumane conditions by ICE

Oh my goodness. All of the posts about this on my social media timelines and the news articles about this have dried up since the virus and these people have been forgotten. I'm ashamed to say even I had forgotten about them. Our federal government refuses to take care of its own citizens right now; I can only imagine what these people are going through. It was inhumane to begin with.

If nothing else, perhaps a silver lining to all this will see the fall of some of this corruption that has plagued our federal government (and some states; outside of Cooper, looking at my home state NC, with the worst unemployment benefits in the entire country - which is being felt by so many now, including myself); unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be playing out that way, and only the poor and already disadvantaged seem to only be becoming poorer and more disadvantaged. 

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Re: US politics and Coronavirus
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2020, 07:03:01 pm »
unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be playing out that way,

Instead, they're trying to screw over the Post Office. Again. For some reason.

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