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Author Topic: Looks like the Donald & Hillary come the Fall  (Read 6605 times)

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Looks like the Donald & Hillary come the Fall
« on: March 16, 2016, 08:57:27 pm »
In all my life, I have yet to see such a sorry lot of candidates - every election cycle, the crop gets weedier and weedier!
Do you really like either one of these?
As a native New Yorker, I've got my opinions on Trump.
After having heard what the ex-Secret Service people are saying about Hillary - Trump doesn't look so bad. "Mommy, Dearest" was a sweetheart compared to First Lady Clinton, it seems. Punishment detail was being assigned to the First Witch.
Trickie Dickie doesn't look so bad in retrospect, does he?
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Re: Looks like the Donald & Hillary come the Fall ...
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2016, 09:49:11 pm »
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Do you really like either one of these?


Nope.  For the first time since I could vote I might actually sit out an election.  
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Re: Looks like the Donald & Hillary come the Fall ...
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2016, 10:12:51 pm »
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In all my life, I have yet to see such a sorry lot of candidates - every election cycle, the crop gets weedier and weedier!
Do you really like either one of these?
As a native New Yorker, I've got my opinions on Trump.
After having heard what the ex-Secret Service people are saying about Hillary - Trump doesn't look so bad. "Mommy, Dearest" was a sweetheart compared to First Lady Clinton, it seems. Punishment detail was being assigned to the First Witch.
Trickie Dickie doesn't look so bad in retrospect, does he?
eenie-meenie-mynie-moe, catch a creep by the toe ...

 
I'm holding out for Cruz, but in the event that Hillary becomes POTUS I won't be brokenhearted. She's not evil, she's not crazy, she's not terrible. She's an establishment Democrat embracing mainstream progressivism. Do I loathe mainstream progressivism? Mostly; but I've given up thinking that it'll go away.
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Re: Looks like the Donald & Hillary come the Fall ...
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2016, 12:40:44 am »
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I'm holding out for Cruz, but in the event that Hillary becomes POTUS I won't be brokenhearted. She's not evil, she's not crazy, she's not terrible. She's an establishment Democrat embracing mainstream progressivism. Do I loathe mainstream progressivism? Mostly; but I've given up thinking that it'll go away.

 
I voted for Hillary Clinton twice, when she was running for the Senate in New York. I think that she made an excellent senator. However, her recent comments to the effect that the current global trade agreements are good for America lost my vote. I'm not a fair player. The American Empire that put loot in American pockets was to my liking. The "free-market" (read - money for the top 1/100,000th of 1 percent) is not to my liking. I'm not interested in fair play. I'm interested in my side - read, "the United States of America" - winning. This country had everything. We pissed it away, so that a few at the top could grow monstrously rich in the process. We have a few allies that deserve lucre - the UK, for instance - but we should be trying to cut China's throat, just as China is trying to cut ours. India is no friend at all. & we NEED Russia.
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Re: Looks like the Donald & Hillary come the Fall ...
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2016, 12:47:58 am »
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Nope.  For the first time since I could vote I might actually sit out an election.  
Just sit at home, drunk and pantless, polishing the guns and toasting the death of the Republic.

The Republic will survive. But perhaps not in its present form. Rome survived by changing - not its outward form; it remained a "republic" for centuries, but the principate became necessary. I think that the Imperial Presidency is slowly emerging. My hope is that it will be a Caesar who is the first - not a Caligula!
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Re: Looks like the Donald & Hillary come the Fall ...
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2016, 01:34:20 am »
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In all my life, I have yet to see such a sorry lot of candidates - every election cycle, the crop gets weedier and weedier!
Do you really like either one of these?
As a native New Yorker, I've got my opinions on Trump.
After having heard what the ex-Secret Service people are saying about Hillary - Trump doesn't look so bad. "Mommy, Dearest" was a sweetheart compared to First Lady Clinton, it seems. Punishment detail was being assigned to the First Witch.
Trickie Dickie doesn't look so bad in retrospect, does he?
eenie-meenie-mynie-moe, catch a creep by the toe ...
I'm a die hard libertarian, so I will be voting for Gary Johnson. I know he won't win, but at least I can say, I didn't vote for Trump or Clinton! So no one can blame me on either side!
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Re: Looks like the Donald & Hillary come the Fall ...
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2016, 03:25:21 am »
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I'm a die hard libertarian, so I will be voting for Gary Johnson. I know he won't win, but at least I can say, I didn't vote for Trump or Clinton! So no one can blame me on either side!

 
But, in a 2 party system, isn't voting for a 3rd party candidate throwing your vote away?
At the end of the day, nobody gives a damn about who voted for the alternate parties, whether libertarian or communist.
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Re: Looks like the Donald & Hillary come the Fall ...
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2016, 08:00:53 am »
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Nope.  For the first time since I could vote I might actually sit out an election.  
Just sit at home, drunk and pantless, polishing the guns and toasting the death of the Republic.

I'll vote for the Democratic nominee as doing otherwise would help Trump and I think he would be far worse for the country than Clinton could ever be. If Cruz gets the Republican nomination, I'll be actively helping to get out the vote for Clinton as Cruz is a Dominionist who thinks other religions should neither be seen nor heard. He would be a grave danger to freedom of religion and many other civil liberties. Not to mention he has strong Tea Party support which means he supports most of their more crazy stuff.

And Cruz is still quite possible as current predictions do not have Trump having quite enough committed convention delegates to win on the first round of voting. If he fails to convince enough uncommitted delegates to vote for him on that first round, you get the first brokered convention in ages.
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Re: Looks like the Donald & Hillary come the Fall ...
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2016, 08:06:09 am »
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I voted for Hillary Clinton twice, when she was running for the Senate in New York. I think that she made an excellent senator. However, her recent comments to the effect that the current global trade agreements are good for America lost my vote. I'm not a fair player. The American Empire that put loot in American pockets was to my liking.

The American Empire never really existed -- fortunately for both The US and the rest of the world.

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The "free-market" (read - money for the top 1/100,000th of 1 percent) is not to my liking.
Same here. Extremist Capitalism is as bad a Communism or Fascism, IMHO.

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I'm not interested in fair play. I'm interested in my side - read, "the United States of America" - winning.
I'm interested in everyone on the planet winning. It's not some game where one group has to win and everyone else has to lose.  Thinking of it like that is silly -- and in my humble opinion -- a product of political and economic extremism. For example, this is how the 1% sees capitalism -- everyone else has to lose for they can win big so they are going to do whatever it takes to win.
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Re: Looks like the Donald & Hillary come the Fall ...
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2016, 08:08:42 am »
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I'll vote for the Democratic nominee as doing otherwise would help Trump and I think he would be far worse for the country than Clinton could ever be. If Cruz gets the Republican nomination, I'll be actively helping to get out the vote for Clinton as Cruz is a Dominionist who thinks other religions should neither be seen nor heard. He would be a grave danger to freedom of religion and many other civil liberties. Not to mention he has strong Tea Party support which means he supports most of their more crazy stuff.

And Cruz is still quite possible as current predictions do not have Trump having quite enough committed convention delegates to win on the first round of voting. If he fails to convince enough uncommitted delegates to vote for him on that first round, you get the first brokered convention in ages.

 
Sources, please?
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Re: Looks like the Donald & Hillary come the Fall ...
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2016, 08:14:23 am »
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Do you really like either one of these?

 
Nooooppppeeee.

I'm holding out hope for Bernie to make the nomination; despite what the mainstream media says, he actually has a fair chance.

If Bernie gets the nomination, I will go through the trouble of voting from abroad, as I did for him in the primaries. If Clinton gets the nomination, it's unlikely I'll bother.
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Re: Looks like the Donald & Hillary come the Fall ...
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2016, 08:19:41 am »
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Sources, please?

On what statement. Most of them are easy to find or not really debatable. Here is an article on his Dominionism is is probably the least publicly seen of my statements.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/religion/ted-cruzs-campaign-is-fueled-by-a-dominionist-vision-for-america-commentary/2016/02/04/86373158-cb6a-11e5-b9ab-26591104bb19_story.html
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Re: Looks like the Donald & Hillary come the Fall ...
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2016, 09:04:35 am »
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I'm holding out for Cruz

 
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Re: Looks like the Donald & Hillary come the Fall ...
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2016, 09:40:16 am »
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In all my life, I have yet to see such a sorry lot of candidates - every election cycle, the crop gets weedier and weedier!


Great Cthulhu is running, too! Why vote for a lesser evil?

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Re: Looks like the Donald & Hillary come the Fall ...
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2016, 09:44:24 am »
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"Mommy, Dearest" was a sweetheart compared to First Lady Clinton, it seems. Punishment detail was being assigned to the First Witch.

 
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I'm not interested in fair play. I'm interested in my side - read, "the United States of America" - winning.

 
A Reminder:
Hi, Diaspora,

While public figures such as politicians are fair game for criticisms that it'd be out-of-line to direct against private individuals when posting on TC, name-calling such as 'First Witch' is excessive. (And a rather odd choice of circumlocution on a pagan forum, where 'witch' is often a religious identity.)

As well, TC is an international forum, with members from many countries; statements like the second bit I quoted are very dismissive of those members.

I strongly suggest that you read our Political Discussion Guidelines, and take what they say into account when posting in the Political Discussions forum.

Unrelatedly, I've noticed that many of your posts are rambles about what's on your mind, rather than engaging in discussion and debate. You might want to consider writing a blog, on one of the many blog hosting platforms such as Wordpress, Blogspot/Blogger, Typepad, Dreamwidth, etc. And/or, TC will be changing its forum software sometime in the next few weeks, and our new software includes the ability for members to have blogs here.

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