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Author Topic: Americans Strongly Dislike PC Culture  (Read 233 times)

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Americans Strongly Dislike PC Culture
« on: October 11, 2018, 06:25:13 pm »
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On social media, the country seems to divide into two neat camps: Call them the woke and the resentful. Team Resentment is manned—pun very much intended—by people who are predominantly old and almost exclusively white. Team Woke is young, likely to be female, and predominantly black, brown, or Asian (though white “allies” do their dutiful part). These teams are roughly equal in number, and they disagree most vehemently, as well as most routinely, about the catchall known as political correctness.

Reality is nothing like this. As scholars Stephen Hawkins, Daniel Yudkin, Miriam Juan-Torres, and Tim Dixon argue in a report published Wednesday, “Hidden Tribes: A Study of America’s Polarized Landscape,” most Americans don’t fit into either of these camps. They also share more common ground than the daily fights on social media might suggest—including a general aversion to PC culture.

The study was written by More in Common, an organization founded in memory of Jo Cox, the British MP who was murdered in the run-up to the Brexit referendum. It is based on a nationally representative poll with 8,000 respondents, 30 one-hour interviews, and six focus groups conducted from December 2017 to September 2018.

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Re: Americans Strongly Dislike PC Culture
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2018, 09:57:52 pm »
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I think any movement for social or political change, no matter how good or noble of an idea it is, is bound to produce some nonsense at its fringes. I think the environment is a vitally important issue, but I think the environmental movement has produced some poor ideas - say for example the forced sterilizations which accompanied some governments concerns about population growth.

Similarly, I think the overlapping movements seeking more equitable treatment for women, POC, people with non-hetero sexual orientations, etc, are, by and large, absolutely justified and necessary. However, one will occasionally run into assertions that seem to be more concerned with social status and the power that comes with "calling out" someone than with actually improving conditions of the aforementioned marginalized groups. Personally, I would consider "eating tacos is cultural appropriation" to fall into that category.

Since a lot of political coverage these days seems to run mainly off of manufacturing outrage, I'm sure a very large number of Americans have encountered a story about some sort of social-justice related issue which has been specifically selected to cause strong negative reactions. Since "political correctness" is a term that has been specifically used and developed to portray movements for social justice in a negative light, I'm sure any survey that asks Americans about "political correctness" is bound to produce a host of negative responses.

That being said, I did find the author's assertion that many POC have problems with (as they term it) "PC Culture" an interesting one. But I think the most interesting thing is the linkage between income and a lack of disagreement with the (it sounds stupider every time I write it) "PC Culture". I think both the environmental and social justice movements are vitally important, but I don't think that discounts the fact that they can be used by people of a particularly elevated social or economic status to differentiate themselves from the rest of us plebs.
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Re: Americans Strongly Dislike PC Culture
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2018, 02:51:29 am »

This sounds like it's corroborating what I've known my whole life. My father has been saying that "fringe groups disproportionately represent both parties" for 30 years now. I come from a "traditional liberal," working class, white family, and I've never liked it when people tried to force me to identify with either extreme conservatives or extreme liberals, just because the media says that those are the people who matter.
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Re: Americans Strongly Dislike PC Culture
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2018, 10:04:44 am »
This sounds like it's corroborating what I've known my whole life. My father has been saying that "fringe groups disproportionately represent both parties" for 30 years now. I come from a "traditional liberal," working class, white family, and I've never liked it when people tried to force me to identify with either extreme conservatives or extreme liberals, just because the media says that those are the people who matter.

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