Social Justice Vs. Conversation - Smackdown?

[RandallS]

I get this.  This is your forum and you run it as you wish.  We're here, by your leave, because this is your forum and we have the right to leave anytime we wish and you have the right to boot us anytime you wish.  I agree with this.  I'm one of the few Republican pagans I know (more Libertarian, actually), and this philosophy mirrors mine with businesses.

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[OliversTwisted94]

I once had a social justice blogger verbally attack me because we had a disagreement about medical vs social guidelines for transgender people to begin transitioning (in a nutshell). When I tried to make my case and explain my reasoning, she attacked me and was all up in my grill, sent her friends after me, etc.
The whole point is, with the world's increased propensity towards narcissism (which has been repeatedly proven by modern psychologists), some people just don't wanna hear that others might disagree with them on touchy subjects. Some people are okay with (or even enjoy) debate; while others  assume that they simply can't be wrong and go on the defensive/attack. That could explain some of the narcissism.

[OliversTwisted94]

EDIT to my above post: So, not only do people not wanna be called wrong, but people don't wanna deal with the flame wars it can start.
Of course, that's not nearly all of it, but I think it might explain some of the reason it's avoided.

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[Nyktipolos]

I once had a social justice blogger verbally attack me because we had a disagreement about medical vs social guidelines for transgender people to begin transitioning (in a nutshell). When I tried to make my case and explain my reasoning, she attacked me and was all up in my grill, sent her friends after me, etc.
The whole point is, with the world's increased propensity towards narcissism (which has been repeatedly proven by modern psychologists), some people just don't wanna hear that others might disagree with them on touchy subjects. Some people are okay with (or even enjoy) debate; while others  assume that they simply can't be wrong and go on the defensive/attack. That could explain some of the narcissism.

Quite possibly it could. But I think this isn't solely to blame at the feet of people doing social justice work (or claiming to do social justice work) in the world. I think we can all think of several people, celebrities, news outlets, newspapers, websites, etc. etc. who do much the same, but either don't claim to be doing social justice work, or claim that they are the exact opposite, and act in the exact same way.

It's not really that social justice is the problem; they would use any other tool to continue acting in a negative and non-constructive manner if the concept of "Social Justice" did not exist (and in fact, they do already).

[Faemon]

It's not really that social justice is the problem; they would use any other tool to continue acting in a negative and non-constructive manner if the concept of "Social Justice" did not exist (and in fact, they do already).

 
How do we tell the difference between somebody doing social justice work and somebody claiming to do social justice work?

[Chabas]

How do we tell the difference between somebody doing social justice work and somebody claiming to do social justice work?

 
How do you tell the difference between someone being a decent person and someone claiming to be a decent person? Which isn't to say social justice work = decent person, but rather that in both cases, their actions tend to be pretty telling.

--Chabas

[Sophia C]

How do we tell the difference between somebody doing social justice work and somebody claiming to do social justice work?

 
...why does that matter?

I don't think it was the point of the post you were quoting.

And I don't think we can tell the difference. If someone wants to lie, they can.

[Melamphoros]

And I don't think we can tell the difference. If someone wants to lie, they can.

 
I don't think lying has much to do with it.  There are plenty of horrible people who are convinced they're doing good out there.

[sailor]

I don't think lying has much to do with it.  There are plenty of horrible people who are convinced they're doing good out there.

 
Agreed, but I'd add that the relevant "they" are doing these things while claiming to be SJW or doing it under the banner of SJ.  I'm not thinking of 2nd or 3rd order effects such as OxFam and it's destruction of Africa.