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Re: Looking for cheap recognized Doctor of Metaphysics or Divinity online courses
« Reply #30 on: September 19, 2014, 06:07:24 pm »
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I'd really love to have a Dr. in front of my name. Don't know why, it feels like it's got a good kick for me hehe.

Other than that, I'm just needing to upgrade myself in paper and spiritual qualifications as I often dropped out of face to face normal school back in my late teens and 20s due to various health problems. Self paced courses are the best for me.

 
MarsPrincess, I like you, so please don't take this the wrong way, but I find the way you're approaching education to be offensive. You shouldn't be pursuing a doctorate simply so you can slap "Dr." in front of your name. Trust me, that comes across as shallow and insincere, even though I'm sure you don't mean harm.

I say this as someone who has been in college since the age of 17. I have a bachelor's degree in History, am working on a Master's, and will eventually pursue a doctorate. And my patron goddess takes the pursuit of knowledge very, very seriously.

I would also advise you not to pursue this course because it is in effect "padding" your resume. No matter how good your actual skills are, no one will see them clearly, because if you claim a doctorate that you didn't really earn, you're not really being honest. And people WILL spot it.
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Re: Looking for cheap recognized Doctor of Metaphysics or Divinity online courses
« Reply #31 on: September 19, 2014, 06:14:30 pm »
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Hi carillion and HeartShadow,

carillion I thought this website's courses are very valid and credible with a number of accreditation boards in UK and USA validating the courses' quality. I thought that these courses are so much more accredited than most BA or doctorates in spiritual healing and the likes.

http://www.lunacourses.com/accreditation.html

Unfortunately, what this site has done has claimed accreditation from other sites which are not *themselves* accredited with legitimate accademic institutions.

A nice trap for those looking for something authentic!

Homeopathic medicine and it's branches are not recognized as a legitimate form of stand alone medical therapy/science.
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« Reply #32 on: September 19, 2014, 06:41:00 pm »
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MarsPrincess, I like you, so please don't take this the wrong way, but I find the way you're approaching education to be offensive. You shouldn't be pursuing a doctorate simply so you can slap "Dr." in front of your name. Trust me, that comes across as shallow and insincere, even though I'm sure you don't mean harm.

I say this as someone who has been in college since the age of 17. I have a bachelor's degree in History, am working on a Master's, and will eventually pursue a doctorate. And my patron goddess takes the pursuit of knowledge very, very seriously.

I would also advise you not to pursue this course because it is in effect "padding" your resume. No matter how good your actual skills are, no one will see them clearly, because if you claim a doctorate that you didn't really earn, you're not really being honest. And people WILL spot it.


Hi RedFaery,

Of course I don't mean any harm, you're right in that.

I think the only kind of doctorate that doesn't need work is one that you pay just for a certificate with your name on it like honorary doctor of divinity certificates.

Other than that, for example, the doctor of metaphysics courses I was interested in from ULC Seminary is based on A Course In Miracles. No doubt ULC  seems like a diploma mill, I'm quite interested in A Course In Miracles. I used to have a copy of it but gave it away 11 years ago. And it must sound so diploma mill for this course to be around less than $100 but it is something I am tempted to do because of A Course In Miracles and because I am more able to afford this pricing. IF I do study this, it's a 20 week lessons course. I won't necessarily follow the doctrine to a T but I'm wondering about the Dr in front of my name that I might be able to put sometimes if I study this.

I'm not looking at an engineering doctorate or science doctorate. That will be impossible for me because one of my illnesses makes it hard for me to concentrate over a long period of time. Nowadays I tend to look for self paced and affordable courses that don't take years to study.

I'm glad that you have been in college since 17 years old RedFaery. That's commendable indeed. I dropped out of diploma school due to a cancer scare in my late teens. Then it was cleared but other illnesses came along over the years. I get hospitalised on average sometimes once a few months initially and now once in a few years, then also now, once in many years. I sometimes have a lot of hair loss but it's not cancer and thank goodness I'm not bald or anything. I used to pass out often just for example standing up from a lying down position but nowadays I just pass everyday in a chill attitude. No more passing out in recent years so I'm thankful.

Teachers and fellow students used to ask me if I'm okay wherever I went in the diploma school campus in my late teens because I always looked pale. I've had to at one time eat 21 pills of medication a day for one to two weeks.

I used to be attuned in Reiki for a short while before it was removed. During the Reiki time I didn't need to take so much medication anymore and was even out at sea for a short time without nausea.

I guess the Dr title is a kick for me because of my self esteem issues of having dropped out of numerous normal diploma schools after that first diploma school cancer scare. I also feel depressed because my elder sister has 2 normal school Master's Degrees. So I want to feel like I'm useful.

But I guess even if diploma mills might uplift me for whatever personal reasons, I know it's not going to impress or make a credible impression for the spiritual scene with diploma mill doctorates.

To me, I've had enough of face to face normal school and I've had enough of hearing my mom brag to everyone about my elder sister's 2 Master's Degree.

I'm doing this more for myself than for my mom or my elder sister.

I guess I'm maybe suitable to be called an invalid? Invalid is a word for people who have illnesses or are unable to function too well right?

Of course the kind of doctorate I am looking at does not require the kind of work normal school Master's Degree requires. I do know that.

And of course whatever it is with me, it never takes away the hard work others do put in for their more valid background work for having a Dr title.

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Re: Looking for cheap recognized Doctor of Metaphysics or Divinity online courses
« Reply #33 on: September 19, 2014, 06:57:56 pm »
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I don't know what I specifically want to study about but somewhere along the lines of metaphysics, supernatural, parapsychology might be interesting. In these subjects, there are many variations of courses to learn from. I haven't decided which variations I might be very interested in and am still in search of one I would like.

For example, I've seen some BA in spiritual healing and spiritual counselling. Those seem interesting. I've yet to see a doctorate in these 2 subjects yet while searching online.

I don't claim to be any expert since I currently don't have the kind of knowledge to be an expert and I think even if after studying for any kind of doctorate, I wouldn't be an expert because that takes long years of research and spirituality hand in hand to be any sort of a entry level expert.

Doctorates are very different from other courses. This is going to be one reason why you're not seeing them in certain subjects - although the kinds of subjects that universities are willing to accredit is also an issue there. I can only talk about this briefly, as I'm having communication difficulties for Asperger's reasons today, but here's a quick explanation. (Sorry if it's a bit hard to follow, accordingly - I tried to make it make some sense.)

Starting with what subjects universities are willing to lend their accreditation to: there are some very good reasons for this. I can't give details, but I've attended universities with parapsychology-type studies going on which were not scientifically rigorous, and which brought concern on the psychology dept as a result. No university is going to accredit courses which bring them into scientific disrepute. You may agree or disagree with that (I have mixed opinions on it, given that theology is happily taught in many universities and considered academic despite some of its key ideas), but that's just the way things are. If you want to study spiritual healing techniques, supernatural phenomena or similar things, you'll mainly have to do that outside of mainstream academia. And that's fine. Not everything is best handled in academic settings. I wouldn't do an MA to learn practical martial arts or yoga. Things like practical spiritual healing are mostly not relevant to academic study, that's all.

UNLESS you want to critique such things from an academic perspective. And then what you will look at will depend on your field. I research church healing practices (among other things) from a sociological perspective. I had to learn a lot about acceptable sociological research methods before I could start my PhD, for just this reason - they didn't want me studying faith healing uncritically and calling it sociology. I look at what sorts of things might be happening in communities when healing is claimed to be taking place, and how that relates to trends in wider society. There's some history in there, and anthropology, and social science research methods, and lots of social theory. I had to study all these things BEFORE I could start researching for my PhD. That's why you can't do a PhD without a BA or a Master's. As irritating as that is, you'd really regret it if they let you start a PhD and then you found you didn't have time to learn the skills and knowledge you needed.

I personally don't think there's all that much intellectual difference between a BA, a Master's and a PhD (though there is some - and others may well disagree about this). What makes each of those 'levels' of study different is the type of learning you do with them. Example: I managed to get through my BA without really learning HOW to learn. I was mainly interested in expressing my own (unsupported) opinions. What I did learn was how fascinated I was by society, and I learnt a bit of theory about how society works. Then on my MA, I actually taught myself how to learn (since I couldn't learn in a lot of the conventional ways), and learnt some extremely important skills that prepared me for a doctorate, such as how to use research methods scientifically and well. I had to learn all of that *before* I could start a PhD. Only once I'd learnt a whole lot about my subject was I able to do the independent research that is required for a PhD.

The thing that makes a PhD just that, rather than a Master's, is that it must involve *independent* study. You will be researching, not just learning, if you pursue one. You can't start a research degree without the skills required to do research. It *is* possible to go straight to some Master's degrees without BAs. But why not do a BA instead, and learn the skills you'll need if you want to go on to further study? Or, better yet, look for courses that are not academic (and which will therefore be cheaper) if you want to learn about practical subjects. Reiki is a fascinating area with some great teachers passing on their skills. It doesn't need to be an academic subject for you to learn a great deal from those teachers. And they're certainly much more useful skills than I'll ever learn on my PhD!

If you are interested in a doctorate, think about what you might want to research. You'll need to get a good plan together about what you want to investigate, over at least 4 years, and what skills and learning resources you'll need in order to research that subject. For example, are you interested in researching what happens in the body, biologically speaking, when spiritual healing takes place? Or something about the mind-body connection, from a psychology perspective, in spiritual healing settings? From a sociological perspective, you could even look into why certain universities are willing to have parapsychology study carried out under their accreditation and why others are not, and what social trends are contributing to that process. There are lots of options. But first, you'll need to know a lot abput a subject, and you'll need to know how to research.
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« Reply #34 on: September 19, 2014, 06:59:23 pm »
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Hi RedFaery,

Of course I don't mean any harm, you're right in that.

I think the only kind of doctorate that doesn't need work is one that you pay just for a certificate with your name on it like honorary doctor of divinity certificates.

Degrees and the titles they confer are meant to recognize actual academic achievement. You're supposed to work for them.

And I take 7 different medications for a total of 11 pills every day for the past 10 years. You're not going to get any sympathy from me there.
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« Reply #35 on: September 19, 2014, 07:10:00 pm »
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Degrees and the titles they confer are meant to recognize actual academic achievement. You're supposed to work for them.

And I take 7 different medications for a total of 11 pills every day for the past 10 years. You're not going to get any sympathy from me there.


Hi RedFaery,

I didn't talk about my health background with the intention of people giving me sympathy or for people to comfort me about that. I find that you are personally attacking me.

It's great you have high function on many medications but for me it's not that way.

I didn't come here to fight with anyone or to "gain sympathy" but since I was asked why I like a kick of a Dr title in front of my name, I explained my basis.

If you don't like what I have to say, you don't need to reply.

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« Reply #36 on: September 19, 2014, 07:15:07 pm »
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Hi RedFaery,

I didn't talk about my health background with the intention of people giving me sympathy or for people to comfort me about that. I find that you are personally attacking me.

It's great you have high function on many medications but for me it's not that way.

I didn't come here to fight with anyone or to "gain sympathy" but since I was asked why I like a kick of a Dr title in front of my name, I explained my basis.

If you don't like what I have to say, you don't need to reply.
I'm sorry you feel that way. I am simply giving you my honest opinion. You said that you wanted to get a doctorate without doing the necessary academic work, and I told you that I was offended by this idea.

I'm sorry you have a hard time with your medications, but you see it is quite a sore spot with me when people talk of taking pills as if it were an onerous burden. I get treated like I'm some sort of brave medical survivor simply because I take a lot of pills. It gets very tiresome after a while.
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« Reply #37 on: September 19, 2014, 07:30:45 pm »
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Hi RedFaery,



Of course I don't mean any harm, you're right in that.



I think the only kind of doctorate that doesn't need work is one that you pay just for a certificate with your name on it like honorary doctor of divinity certificates.



Other than that, for example, the doctor of metaphysics courses I was interested in from ULC Seminary is based on A Course In Miracles. No doubt ULC  seems like a diploma mill, I'm quite interested in A Course In Miracles. I used to have a copy of it but gave it away 11 years ago. And it must sound so diploma mill for this course to be around less than $100 but it is something I am tempted to do because of A Course In Miracles and because I am more able to afford this pricing. IF I do study this, it's a 20 week lessons course. I won't necessarily follow the doctrine to a T but I'm wondering about the Dr in front of my name that I might be able to put sometimes if I study this.



I'm not looking at an engineering doctorate or science doctorate. That will be impossible for me because one of my illnesses makes it hard for me to concentrate over a long period of time. Nowadays I tend to look for self paced and affordable courses that don't take years to study.



I'm glad that you have been in college since 17 years old RedFaery. That's commendable indeed. I dropped out of diploma school due to a cancer scare in my late teens. Then it was cleared but other illnesses came along over the years. I get hospitalised on average sometimes once a few months initially and now once in a few years, then also now, once in many years. I sometimes have a lot of hair loss but it's not cancer and thank goodness I'm not bald or anything. I used to pass out often just for example standing up from a lying down position but nowadays I just pass everyday in a chill attitude. No more passing out in recent years so I'm thankful.



Teachers and fellow students used to ask me if I'm okay wherever I went in the diploma school campus in my late teens because I always looked pale. I've had to at one time eat 21 pills of medication a day for one to two weeks.



I used to be attuned in Reiki for a short while before it was removed. During the Reiki time I didn't need to take so much medication anymore and was even out at sea for a short time without nausea.



I guess the Dr title is a kick for me because of my self esteem issues of having dropped out of numerous normal diploma schools after that first diploma school cancer scare. I also feel depressed because my elder sister has 2 normal school Master's Degrees. So I want to feel like I'm useful.



But I guess even if diploma mills might uplift me for whatever personal reasons, I know it's not going to impress or make a credible impression for the spiritual scene with diploma mill doctorates.



To me, I've had enough of face to face normal school and I've had enough of hearing my mom brag to everyone about my elder sister's 2 Master's Degree.



I'm doing this more for myself than for my mom or my elder sister.



I guess I'm maybe suitable to be called an invalid? Invalid is a word for people who have illnesses or are unable to function too well right?



Of course the kind of doctorate I am looking at does not require the kind of work normal school Master's Degree requires. I do know that.



And of course whatever it is with me, it never takes away the hard work others do put in for their more valid background work for having a Dr title.


 
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Ugh. Froze and I couldn't edit. But the cold reality is, if you want the title, you have to do the work.
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Ugh. Froze and I couldn't edit. But the cold reality is, if you want the title, you have to do the work.

 
Hi stephyjh,

Even if I do indeed do the diploma mill thing, it takes 5 months of studies with them. That's work to me even in a diploma mill.

Studying spiritual stuff is okay for me because it is interesting. Lack of money to do accredited work by social norms is the cold reality. And Naomi J was very good in her post on whether one course or another gets accredited or not in terms of energy healing work etc.

I actually don't even mind having a diploma level. But spiritual healing is such a subject that, are there even any internationally recognized board for academics and non academics to agree together upon on spiritual healing or spiritual studies? I don't know. Am looking on Google to see if there are any.

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« Reply #40 on: September 19, 2014, 08:20:43 pm »
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I guess the Dr title is a kick for me

I think this might be the root of some of the responses you're getting.

You're coming across (to me, at least) as just wanting a title so you'll appear to be more "worthy". (Whatever that means.) I know you said you want the "leanings", too, but your focus on the title gives the impression that you really just want to be able to call yourself Dr, without really earning it.  And describing it as a "kick" sounds like minimizing the work that goes into a legitimate degree.

Lots of people use titles they haven't earned, including "Dr". Those people are often scam artists.

If what you really want is to study something, approaching it from the direction of how you can acquire a (probably useless) degree and title with the least investment of time, energy, work, and money will ultimately NOT serve you well.  If you choose a program based on it being the cheapest or easiest, you'll get exactly what you pay for: very little knowledge and a degree that will more likely damage your credibility, rather than enhance it.  Because anyone who cares about your title (publishers, potential employers, even potential readers) will make the effort to determine if it's legitimate.  And when they find out it's not, they won't trust you or want to work with you or read your books.

Honestly, you'll get much more benefit out of either figuring out how to manage a conventional degree program, or simply studying whatever you're interested in without worrying about getting a degree. There are ways that health issues can be accommodated in conventional school settings. Depending on where you live and on your health status, accommodations might actually be *required*.  It might be worth it for you to explore that by talking to some admissions counselors about your limitations and needs.

However, if you go that route, it's important to pay attention to accreditation, as others have already said. An important part of that is looking at who is awarding the accreditation. Check out some well known and widely respected schools to see what organizations award accreditation to them, so you'll have an idea of what you should be looking for when you check out less well known schools.

As has already been mentioned, subject areas like metaphysics, paranormal "science", and some aspects of spirituality are simply not currently recognized by established, respected scientific organizations, so schools that focus on those subjects are unlikely to be accredited by the kinds of organizations that award accreditation to conventional schools. That means that a degree conferred by a school focused on such nontraditional subjects is also unlikely to be recognized by conventional organizations or the people who value conventional organizations.

But if you don't care about how others will view the degree, I guess that doesn't really matter. Just be aware that schools that aren't accredited by the usual organizations are not held to the same kinds of standards -- or any standards at all, really -- so, while they might do a good job of teaching their subjects, they also might just take your money and run.  Without a recognized accreditation, you can't tell what you're getting into. That's the whole point of the accreditation system.

The reason some people find degrees and titles acquired like that to be offensive is because those of us who have legitimate degrees/titles have worked VERY hard for them. Many of us have health limitations similar to yours or other things in our lives that make school extremely difficult.  So someone who basically buys a degree and title comes across as belittling the hard work, time, sacrifice, and financial hardship that goes into earning a legitimate degree.

(To be clear, I'm not personally offended by what you've said here, mostly because I don't have the energy to get offended by things like that. But I am speakng as someone who has some understanding of this, because I did the work to earn a B.S. from the University of Massachusetts, an M.A. from George Washington University, and a J.D. [a Juris Doctor degree, which is the standard law degree in the US] from Georgetown University. And I have my own medical issues and life crises. It was not easy or quick to achieve those things.)

One more point I want to make. I can't really make any recommendations about online courses in metaphysical and similar subjects, because I've never been particularly interested in studying those topics, at least in that way -- I'd rather learn that sort of thing from a live person.  (I've heard decent things about Cherry Hill Seminary, though. You might check that out.) But there are TONS of really good online courses offered by reputable institutions.  You might try out one or more of those before committing to a whole online program, especially a program you have to pay for.  The Coursera.com website is a very good clearinghouse of a huge variety of free online courses, often including some pretty nontraditional subjects (their offerings change frequently).

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« Reply #41 on: September 19, 2014, 08:30:45 pm »
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Even if I do indeed do the diploma mill thing, it takes 5 months of studies with them. That's work to me even in a diploma mill.

But not NEARLY as much work as a legitimate degree. Which is one reason why this kind of degree is not seen as credible by most people.  

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Lack of money to do accredited work by social norms is the cold reality.

Don't you think that's the reality for the rest of us?

I financed my education with a combination of scholarships, loans, and work -- just like almost everyone else I know. I will probably be paying my student loans off until I die.  And the fact that I'm now on disability and can't work in my degreed fields any more doesn't change the fact that I still have to pay those loans off.

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But spiritual healing is such a subject that, are there even any internationally recognized board for academics and non academics to agree together upon on spiritual healing or spiritual studies?

If you mean any internationally recognized board of widely respected academics, no. Because most widely respected academics don't view spiritual healing and similar subjects as legitimate subjects, because they can't be scientifically tested.
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« Reply #42 on: September 19, 2014, 08:50:08 pm »
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But not NEARLY as much work as a legitimate degree. Which is one reason why this kind of degree is not seen as credible by most people.  



Don't you think that's the reality for the rest of us?

I financed my education with a combination of scholarships, loans, and work -- just like almost everyone else I know. I will probably be paying my student loans off until I die.  And the fact that I'm now on disability and can't work in my degreed fields any more doesn't change the fact that I still have to pay those loans off.


 
If you mean any internationally recognized board of widely respected academics, no. Because most widely respected academics don't view spiritual healing and similar subjects as legitimate subjects, because they can't be scientifically tested.


Hi Aster Breo,

I'm sorry to hear about your debts and being on disability.

I've seen an acquaintance study with a metaphysics online university for a BA and he has gone on to open outlets of spiritual shops in a few countries already. I guess that was where I thought spiritual study subjects might help with a stable income somehow. But his BA cost about a few thousand dollars from USA.

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« Reply #43 on: September 19, 2014, 08:54:29 pm »
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I actually don't even mind having a diploma level. But spiritual healing is such a subject that, are there even any internationally recognized board for academics and non academics to agree together upon on spiritual healing or spiritual studies? I don't know. Am looking on Google to see if there are any.

Metaphysics and divinity? You don't need a degree to write a book for that, or even to write a good book for that (I mean, depending on what the reader is searching for.) I personally have bought books by people such as Rebecca Lexa, who writes about therianthropy and otherkin, and she's an expert only because she's so good at organizing her personal experience and offering it in a way that can apply to other spirit-taught practitioners.

I've even really appreciated some Raven Kaldera books, and I don't know what degree that author has and I don't care: I'm not looking to Kaldera for reconstructionist information. The laypeople's/readers opinion is good enough for me. (That includes controversies.)

A friend of my mother's got published and her main credential was having taught yoga for more than a decade. (And, in my opinion, having the most extensive personal collection of New Age literature that I ever had the privilege of borrowing from. She must have read them all, too, and so gotten the exact voice/tone/style that would appeal to a reader demographic.)

When I look for hard facts and not personal gnosis, even hard facts through a practicing pagan perspective, then I look for authors with some degree or affiliation.

Among atheist activists, I think it's sort of a running joke that authors of spirituality, metaphysics, and personal development all have a degree in psychology.

If you wanted to write about your experiences with Roman deities, then it just might help to have a degree in a historical study of that field. If you don't, then (I have to say) people on these forums might not be supportive of a book based on completely uneducated UPG with no historical or archaeological proof at all...but you will still find readers. Believe me. You will find them somewhere. Readers will find you. They might be naive, or they might be masochistic and overly critical, but somebody will find your book and give you their money.

Reiki might be pseudo-science, but I would want to take a course in that before writing about it just so that I can point to somebody else and say, "But that person told me that it was like this!" if someone's thinking as they read, "Where'd this writer get that idea?"

I can't just do whatever metaphysical healing I do and write about it and use the word "reiki" if I don't even know what that means to the people who do it.

I can do whatever metaphysical healing I do and write about it like, "By my experience...it's like this, in my opinion."

My favorite metaphysical books include authors who have taken both approaches. As long as you're honest and authentic, something you write will strike a chord. Authenticity means that you take a course because you believe it will enrich your belief first. Otherwise, it won't have any real soul and you will probably only attract shallow people who are impressed by the title you have and then forget the content. The book sales might not even pay back the cheapest course you took to essentially only advertise your book just a little better maybe.
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Re: Looking for cheap recognized Doctor of Metaphysics or Divinity online courses
« Reply #44 on: September 19, 2014, 09:10:30 pm »
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Metaphysics and divinity? You don't need a degree to write a book for that, or even to write a good book for that (I mean, depending on what the reader is searching for.) I personally have bought books by people such as Rebecca Lexa, who writes about therianthropy and otherkin, and she's an expert only because she's so good at organizing her personal experience and offering it in a way that can apply to other spirit-taught practitioners.

I've even really appreciated some Raven Kaldera books, and I don't know what degree that author has and I don't care: I'm not looking to Kaldera for reconstructionist information. The laypeople's/readers opinion is good enough for me. (That includes controversies.)

A friend of my mother's got published and her main credential was having taught yoga for more than a decade. (And, in my opinion, having the most extensive personal collection of New Age literature that I ever had the privilege of borrowing from. She must have read them all, too, and so gotten the exact voice/tone/style that would appeal to a reader demographic.)

When I look for hard facts and not personal gnosis, even hard facts through a practicing pagan perspective, then I look for authors with some degree or affiliation.

Among atheist activists, I think it's sort of a running joke that authors of spirituality, metaphysics, and personal development all have a degree in psychology.

If you wanted to write about your experiences with Roman deities, then it just might help to have a degree in a historical study of that field. If you don't, then (I have to say) people on these forums might not be supportive of a book based on completely uneducated UPG with no historical or archaeological proof at all...but you will still find readers. Believe me. You will find them somewhere. Readers will find you. They might be naive, or they might be masochistic and overly critical, but somebody will find your book and give you their money.

Reiki might be pseudo-science, but I would want to take a course in that before writing about it just so that I can point to somebody else and say, "But that person told me that it was like this!" if someone's thinking as they read, "Where'd this writer get that idea?"

I can't just do whatever metaphysical healing I do and write about it and use the word "reiki" if I don't even know what that means to the people who do it.

I can do whatever metaphysical healing I do and write about it like, "By my experience...it's like this, in my opinion."

My favorite metaphysical books include authors who have taken both approaches. As long as you're honest and authentic, something you write will strike a chord. Authenticity means that you take a course because you believe it will enrich your belief first. Otherwise, it won't have any real soul and you will probably only attract shallow people who are impressed by the title you have and then forget the content. The book sales might not even pay back the cheapest course you took to essentially only advertise your book just a little better maybe.

 
Hi Faemon,

Writing a spiritual book is only more of a to-do list thing. I'm more into learning more about spiritual healing so that I have a better idea of it when discussions come into place between me and other acquaintances as a lot of them are in spiritual healing fields at the spiritual shops. Many of them have trained in many energy healing modalities. I sort of stopped many years ago and now I feel as if I can't catch up to what they're all saying about it after the many years. Some of them have taken metaphysics online education before. One was successful in franchising his spiritual shop in different countries. So I thought by doing what they did I'd have some success in income too.

It is true that people don't need to have a Dr title to write spiritual books.

Can or should courses in metaphysics be compared to normal school courses? Some posters here have mentioned that metaphysics cannot be scientifically tested and so can't be the same as normal school subjects.

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