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Author Topic: Gaia Begins to Reclaim Herself  (Read 2170 times)

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Gaia Begins to Reclaim Herself
« on: July 18, 2012, 10:46:00 pm »
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"Gaia Begins to Reclaim Herself
18th July 2012
http://wakeup-world.com/2012/07/18/gaia-begins-to-reclaim-herself/

By Chris Bourne

Contributing Writer for Wake Up World

Have you been following the ‘freak’ weather recently?

So the mainstream media have hooked on to the fact that ‘freak’ weather is taking place in various parts of the globe.

From the record droughts right across America to the flash floods sweeping away cars, roads and houses in Japan. Here in Southern England where I live, it has not stopped raining for weeks.

So what’s going on? Is it unusual? Yes indeed! I can feel it in my consciousness. I can feel shifts beginning to happen right around the world.

A new timeline has begun…"
http://wakeup-world.com/2012/07/18/gaia-begins-to-reclaim-herself/

The events talked about in the article raises the possibility that GAIA did them on purpose.  If so how do we know, or can we tell if it was the result of mankind's efforts?
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Re: Gaia Begins to Reclaim Herself
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2012, 11:00:48 pm »
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The events talked about in the article raises the possibility that GAIA did them on purpose.  If so how do we know, or can we tell if it was the result of mankind's efforts?


If Gaia is a group of interlocking natural systems, then such events might be construed as "corrections", in the sense that weather systems rush into low-pressure troughs and tectonic plates shift when too much pressure builds up...then, well, maybe.

I don't buy the implied sentience, though, and the New Age woo-woo spouted in the "About the author" section ain't helping his case.

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Re: Gaia Begins to Reclaim Herself
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2012, 11:53:59 pm »
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If Gaia is a group of interlocking natural systems, then such events might be construed as "corrections", in the sense that weather systems rush into low-pressure troughs and tectonic plates shift when too much pressure builds up...then, well, maybe.

I know the Gulf Stream shifted a few years ago, which is one reason for the weather change.  Was that shift due to mankind, or something else?

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I don't buy the implied sentience, though, and the New Age woo-woo spouted in the "About the author" section ain't helping his case.

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Re: Gaia Begins to Reclaim Herself
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2012, 04:22:00 pm »
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"Is it unusual? Yes indeed! I can feel it in my consciousness."

 
Because "feeling it in one's consciousness" is totally the best way to determine whether something is unusual!

I might be able to take the core premise seriously, if it was presented without the cosmic newage woo (though the "begins" part is off-putting; a self-correcting complex of interlocking systems would have been applying correction all along), but I can't take this dude seriously.

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Re: Gaia Begins to Reclaim Herself
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2012, 05:06:11 pm »
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You know what turns me off, so that I am not even want to read there?
"Ooohh-uuuh... the weather is scary! This has never ever happened before! It must mean something!"

Um, no, it only means, that nature is unpredictable. As it always has been.

Just because a few generations of our species, could be raised in the luxury of a feeling of false security (and this applies not even to humans everywhere) doesn't mean what happens is unusual.

Nothing speshul is happening. It's nature. We just happen to witness it. And nature doesn't care if we freak out about a drought, a tsunami, an earthquake or what have you.

On this planet always something was happening and it will continue happening, till it blows up.
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Re: Gaia Begins to Reclaim Herself
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2012, 07:05:39 pm »
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Nothing speshul is happening. It's nature. We just happen to witness it. And nature doesn't care if we freak out about a drought, a tsunami, an earthquake or what have you.

On this planet always something was happening and it will continue happening, till it blows up.

The current weather isn't even that unusual over the entire history of the planet. It just unusual since we've been keeping records -- which is a very short time.
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Re: Gaia Begins to Reclaim Herself
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2012, 07:22:46 pm »
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It just unusual since we've been keeping records -- which is a very short time.


That's exactly the point. *nod*
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Re: Gaia Begins to Reclaim Herself
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2012, 11:15:58 am »
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The current weather isn't even that unusual over the entire history of the planet. It just unusual since we've been keeping records -- which is a very short time.

 
Absolutely correct.

All this "Gaia reclaiming herself" stuff has a startling tendency to anthropomorphize, reify, and most often degenerate into pure misanthropy. The linked article discusses many examples of that: http://reason.com/archives/2010/04/21/sinners-in-the-hands-of-an-ang

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Re: Gaia Begins to Reclaim Herself
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2012, 12:22:23 am »
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So what’s going on? Is it unusual? Yes indeed! I can feel it in my consciousness. I can feel shifts beginning to happen right around the world.

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The events talked about in the article raises the possibility that GAIA did them on purpose.  If so how do we know, or can we tell if it was the result of mankind's efforts?


I've read theories like this. I don't think there is much to support that nature is whackier over the long term.

But there is something different going down. Humans have never existed on this planet in the number in which they exist today. That is a fact. We do not know the repercussions of that very recent and rapid growth. That is also a fact.

I'm kind of leery of two lines of thought. That the earth is going to correct itself in some way like vengeance AND that it's totes safe to ignore the fact that we are, as a species, going to have to deal with nature differently because nature is, was and always will be at our disposal. Both seem to ignore some science to the contrary, and both are a little egocentric IMO.

And the jury is still out on some of the disastery type things that may have human causes. Small earthquakes after massive fracking? There are all kinds of town hall meetings in this region about that to see if it is so. Those huge sludge troughs from mountain top mining? What the heck is going to happen with that mess? The potential for our fossil fuel addiction to play a part in contamination of our other natural resources is not some made up worrisome fiction. Neither is the disaster potential for super strains of bacteria that have evolved to be resistent to antibiotics. These things are real.

I do not think panic or worry are useful, but neither is ignoring the need for a re-examination of how we use our resources as a species.

I suspect the mystics feel a shift due to the massive expansion of human consciousnesses. Maybe that's what you feel. More people experience natural disasters now because there are more people about to experience them. We may be at a tipping point, or we may just be at a new stage of development as a species. I do not know.
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Re: Gaia Begins to Reclaim Herself
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2012, 02:09:44 pm »
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The current weather isn't even that unusual over the entire history of the planet. It just unusual since we've been keeping records -- which is a very short time.

 
^^

Thank you for that.  I remember when I was a kid in school and everyone was terrified about the next global iceage.
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Re: Gaia Begins to Reclaim Herself
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2012, 02:38:26 pm »
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I just finished reading Jurassic Park (again!), and there's a great part near the end where Malcolm has a rant about how the earth doesn't need to be saved.  It'll survive regardless of what we do in the long run.  It's ourselves that we have the opportunity to save.

Personally, I think our actions as humans aren't affecting Gaia/Nature/Whatever so much as we're spitting into the wind.

I also think it's very egocentric to assume that Gaia/Nature/Whatever revolves around the actions of humans, like the idea the universe orbiting around the earth.
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Re: Gaia Begins to Reclaim Herself
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2012, 10:36:11 pm »
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I remember when I was a kid in school and everyone was terrified about the next global iceage.

 
It was the hole in the ozone layer for me, back in the 70's.

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It was the hole in the ozone layer for me, back in the 70's.

 
Mid 50's to Mid 60's it was the bomb :hdsk:.

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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2012, 12:00:16 pm »
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Mid 50's to Mid 60's it was the bomb :hdsk:.

:stop:Then we found out Twinkies was one of the two things, that last forever and a day.

 
80's was about the bomb and then came eco and religious stuff re armageddon.

When that kind of talk stresses kids out, I tell them that I've survived the end of the world more times than I can count. Here's a fun list.

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« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2012, 03:38:04 pm »
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80's was about the bomb and then came eco and religious stuff re armageddon.

When that kind of talk stresses kids out, I tell them that I've survived the end of the world more times than I can count. Here's a fun list.

 
At school we had weekly air raid drills, involing geting under the desk and putting our head between our knees or going into the closet.  It was daily   during the Cuban Missle Crises.
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