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Loki and Philosophy
« on: August 03, 2012, 01:59:41 am »
Does anyone know of any books/websites/articles/anything about Norse/Loki from a Philosophical view point?

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Re: Loki and Philosophy
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2012, 02:15:51 am »
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Does anyone know of any books/websites/articles/anything about Norse/Loki from a Philosophical view point?

 
What do you mean by a philosophical pov?
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Re: Loki and Philosophy
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2012, 07:31:33 pm »
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What do you mean by a philosophical pov?

 
I'm crap at explaining what I mean. I was hoping someone would just sort of know >.< I'll think of a better way to explain and add details. Thanks for trying though.

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Re: Loki and Philosophy
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2012, 07:58:25 pm »
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I'm crap at explaining what I mean. I was hoping someone would just sort of know >.< I'll think of a better way to explain and add details. Thanks for trying though.


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What do you mean by a philosophical pov?

 


This probably won't explain what I mean but maybe it'll help whoever reading understand what I'd like to be able to explain.

I don't worship anyone/anything. They are are my teachers. The same way you'd go to a class room and expect to be taught. My last "teacher", Hermes, didn't have much that I could learn. He just wasn't for me. He was more of an adviser I suppose. Anyways he said I had someone/something that I was suppose to be learning from but that I wasn't mentally/emotionally ready/open to yet. So I spent a few years waiting for this new teacher and then I finally dreamed about him and got a name. Loki.

So I need to read his stories, things that happened to him, about him, anything and everything. And I need to question all of them. Sort of like when you read Aesop's fables and Dr. Seuss and you question what i all meant and then you realise "oh, this book is about equality" etc etc.

Does any of that make sense? :\ Perhaps I need someone else to get me thinking deeper about the subject or to bounce idea's and questions off of.

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Re: Loki and Philosophy
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2012, 11:03:47 pm »
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I'm crap at explaining what I mean. I was hoping someone would just sort of know >.< I'll think of a better way to explain and add details. Thanks for trying though.

  This is one of the best articles I've read on Loki.
The pace of progress in artificial intelligence (I’m not referring to narrow AI) is incredibly fast. [...] The risk of something seriously dangerous happening is in the five year timeframe. 10 years at most.--Elon Musk

I am in the camp that is concerned about super intelligence," [Bill] Gates wrote. "First the machines will do a lot of jobs for us and not be super intelligent. That should be positive if we manage it well. A few decades after that though the intelligence is strong enough to be a concern. I agree with Elon Musk and some others on this and don\'t understand why some people are not concerned."

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Re: Loki and Philosophy
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2012, 12:04:24 am »
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So I need to read his stories, things that happened to him, about him, anything and everything. And I need to question all of them. Sort of like when you read Aesop's fables and Dr. Seuss and you question what i all meant and then you realise "oh, this book is about equality" etc etc.

 
I'm given to understand that she's fairly controversial, but Galina Krasskova just finished a whole month of Loki over on her blog.  You could look there.
http://krasskova.weebly.com/1/category/loki%20project/1.html
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Re: Loki and Philosophy
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2012, 01:45:55 am »
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Does anyone know of any books/websites/articles/anything about Norse/Loki from a Philosophical view point?

I quite enjoyed this interpretation On Being A Catalyst by Elizabeth Vongvisith. It interprets events described in the Lokasenna.
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Re: Loki and Philosophy
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2012, 02:51:09 pm »
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Does anyone know of any books/websites/articles/anything about Norse/Loki from a Philosophical view point?

 
I'm up for a discussion here, if anyone else is. I seem to have a whooooole different interpretation than a lot of people, which confuses me, makes me think I must be reading something wrong....

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Re: Loki and Philosophy
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2012, 03:11:58 pm »
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I quite enjoyed this interpretation On Being A Catalyst by Elizabeth Vongvisith. It interprets events described in the Lokasenna.

 
Elizabeth has a lot of stuff written about Loki on her website, and is a god-wife to him. I second the recommendation. :)

She's also written stuff for The Jotunbok (which I'm currently reading), especially on the Loki section of that book. It's not strictly heathen, though, and is considered controversial within the heathen community, just so you know.

There is also Lokaheim, which is an online shrine dedicated to Loki and contains a fair number of resources as well that you may find interesting. Also, y'know, controversial.

Then again, I'm not sure there is anything that isn't controversial with him.
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