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Author Topic: creature myths, the true fraud and debateable  (Read 5097 times)

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creature myths, the true fraud and debateable
« on: August 09, 2012, 10:06:39 pm »
just wondering in every ones opinion which "myth creatures" are true, fake or still in debate? i mean everything from big foot, to mermaids, to hell hounds, to megalodons. pictures? sites? videos? all that good stuff if it could be provided.
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Re: creature myths, the true fraud and debateable
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2012, 10:13:51 pm »
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just wondering in every ones opinion which "myth creatures" are true, fake or still in debate? i mean everything from big foot, to mermaids, to hell hounds, to megalodons. pictures? sites? videos? all that good stuff if it could be provided.

 
You mean cryptids?  I think they probably exist, just not as flesh-and-blood animals.


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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2012, 10:18:44 pm »
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You mean cryptids?  I think they probably exist, just not as flesh-and-blood animals.

 
one can never tell with out knowing what to look for. i figured id ask on here to see if anyone could indulge my curiosity. i have a fear of megalodons even tho im sure their extinct, or just live really deep in rarely/uncharted depths. iv seen some stuff that has very compelling evidence of well...i know it might sound dumb but of mermaids. iv heard stories of stuff like hell hounds but never seen images or anything that looked like strong evidence.
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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2012, 10:26:03 pm »
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one can never tell with out knowing what to look for. i figured id ask on here to see if anyone could indulge my curiosity. i have a fear of megalodons even tho im sure their extinct, or just live really deep in rarely/uncharted depths. iv seen some stuff that has very compelling evidence of well...i know it might sound dumb but of mermaids. iv heard stories of stuff like hell hounds but never seen images or anything that looked like strong evidence.

 
To my knowledge, it's unlikely megalodon survived to the modern era.  I don't think the modern oceanic ecosystem can support them.


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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2012, 10:34:02 pm »
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To my knowledge, it's unlikely megalodon survived to the modern era.  I don't think the modern oceanic ecosystem can support them.

 
thats what i was led to believe but iv heard that only 11% of the total ocean has been explored. the rest is much too deep to study at the moment. the thing that leads me to believe that a few might exist is the chance they could be hiding extremely deep in the ocean. they might have a stable food source but that is hard to really prove since the pressure would kill a normal human in the most advanced sub. tho i fear the unknown, im very curious and am willing to learn more about it.
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creature myths, the true fraud and debateable
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2012, 10:37:17 pm »
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just wondering in every ones opinion which "myth creatures" are true, fake or still in debate? i mean everything from big foot, to mermaids, to hell hounds, to megalodons. pictures? sites? videos? all that good stuff if it could be provided.

I saw an interesting documentary a couple of months ago (on Discovery maybe, or a similar channel) positing that a lot of the mythical creatures written about by Classical writers were based on actual fossils of real prehistoric animals whose skeletons had gotten jumbled up together.  So, for example, if the bones of three or four different kinds of dinosaurs were found together, and people thought they were all from a single creature, they might have tried to make them fit together and ended up with the idea of a Cyclops or something.  The program went through and talked about what kinds of fossils had been discovered where by modern paleontologists, and how they might have contributed to various mythical creatures.

Interesting idea, anyway...

Personally, having heard the nocturnal calls of animals like barred owls and foxes, I can easily understand how people could think there were monsters or supernatural creatures living in the forests. They're VERY creepy.

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« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2012, 10:39:31 pm »
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I saw an interesting documentary a couple of months ago (on Discovery maybe, or a similar channel) positing that a lot of the mythical creatures written about by Classical writers were based on actual fossils of real prehistoric animals whose skeletons had gotten jumbled up together.  So, for example, if the bones of three or four different kinds of dinosaurs were found together, and people thought they were all from a single creature, they might have tried to make them fit together and ended up with the idea of a Cyclops or something.  The program went through and talked about what kinds of fossils had been discovered where by modern paleontologists, and how they might have contributed to various mythical creatures.

Interesting idea, anyway...

Personally, having heard the nocturnal calls of animals like barred owls and foxes, I can easily understand how people could think there were monsters or supernatural creatures living in the forests. They're VERY creepy.

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you know if you look at an elephants skull, it closely resembles what the ancient people would have mistaken as a cyclops skull.
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« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2012, 10:54:34 pm »
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you know if you look at an elephants skull, it closely resembles what the ancient people would have mistaken as a cyclops skull.


The island that is associated with the Cyclops was the site for a number of mamoth or mastadon skulls, sorry don't recall exactly which it was.  There was a significant fire some years back that revealed a lot of bones were still present beneath the underbrush.

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« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2012, 11:09:15 pm »
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The island that is associated with the Cyclops was the site for a number of mamoth or mastadon skulls, sorry don't recall exactly which it was.  There was a significant fire some years back that revealed a lot of bones were still present beneath the underbrush.

 
i hear mamoths or mastadons have been found in snow and ice areas. some of which are rumored to be perfectly perserved (not alive tho). not sure if its true or not.
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« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2012, 11:44:51 pm »
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i hear mamoths or mastadons have been found in snow and ice areas. some of which are rumored to be perfectly perserved (not alive tho). not sure if its true or not.


A number of them have been found, a few with undigested plants in their stomachs.  A number from Siberia if I recall correctly have been discovered and recovered from the frozen tundra and placed in museums.  I think it was National Geographic that had a special some time back about recovering a mamoth adn digging it out of the frozen tundra.

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A number of them have been found, a few with undigested plants in their stomachs.  A number from Siberia if I recall correctly have been discovered and recovered from the frozen tundra and placed in museums.  I think it was National Geographic that had a special some time back about recovering a mamoth adn digging it out of the frozen tundra.

 
i kinda hope to see one in a museum (a recovered from frozen tundra). it would be awsome
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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2012, 09:23:02 am »
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i kinda hope to see one in a museum (a recovered from frozen tundra). it would be awsome

 
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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2012, 09:24:22 am »
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just wondering in every ones opinion which "myth creatures" are true, fake or still in debate? i mean everything from big foot, to mermaids, to hell hounds, to megalodons. pictures? sites? videos? all that good stuff if it could be provided.

 
I recently told my husband I wanted to become a bigfoot researcher. He responded that there was no money in it. Back to the 9 to 5 for me.

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I recently told my husband I wanted to become a bigfoot researcher. He responded that there was no money in it. Back to the 9 to 5 for me.

 
the baby looked cute and the skeleton looked awsome. you could do big foot research in your spare time. my best friends mother does paranormal research and combats evil entities (for a small fee) in her spare time. she is a medium or something in that nature. i personally would like to do paranormal research but id take another level. the only other person iv told my plan to said it would be dangerous and i need to focus on building up my energies, cleansing my aura, and setting up protective stuff.
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Re: creature myths, the true fraud and debateable
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2012, 12:00:44 pm »
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just wondering in every ones opinion which "myth creatures" are true, fake or still in debate? i mean everything from big foot, to mermaids, to hell hounds, to megalodons. pictures? sites? videos? all that good stuff if it could be provided.

 
My general take is that it's not that long ago that people thought giant pandas were a myth. (My favorite cryptozoology story ever.) The world is a weird and wonderful place, and there's still a bunch of places (the ocean especially, but other places too) where we don't know everything.

There's also the existence of stuff that doesn't have an existence on the physical plane, but can act on it, or alongside it. (If there's truth to unicorns, mermaids, hell hounds, etc. that's where I think they'd fit.)
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