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anyone know stuff about mediums
« on: July 25, 2014, 12:22:41 am »
HI! i dont think im a medium or anythin. BUT im comin up with a story and stuff with mediums in it so i wanted to know more about them so it doesnt just seem like im pullin junk out of my butt
i mostly wanna know stuff like what they can do and how they do it. like methods or rituals or whathaveyou.

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Re: anyone know stuff about mediums
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2014, 08:01:47 am »
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HI! i dont think im a medium or anythin. BUT im comin up with a story and stuff with mediums in it so i wanted to know more about them so it doesnt just seem like im pullin junk out of my butt
i mostly wanna know stuff like what they can do and how they do it. like methods or rituals or whathaveyou.

 
Mediums are often assumed to be naturally created.  A person might have a talent for mediumship like she might have a talent for music or art. Historically, in fact, the medium was often separate from the magician.  The Delphic Oracle spoke disjointed prophetic ramblings, but it fell to her handlers to translate these into the official Prophesy.  The famous magician John Dee, adviser to Elizabeth I, used an obsidian mirror for his scrying, but could not use it himself.  Instead, he had a young assistant who performed the actual viewing while Dee recorded and interpreted the boy's visions.

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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2014, 12:07:27 pm »
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HI! i dont think im a medium or anythin. BUT im comin up with a story and stuff with mediums in it so i wanted to know more about them so it doesnt just seem like im pullin junk out of my butt
i mostly wanna know stuff like what they can do and how they do it. like methods or rituals or whathaveyou.

 
Modern mediums or old timey?

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Re: anyone know stuff about mediums
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2014, 12:21:12 pm »
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HI! i dont think im a medium or anythin. BUT im comin up with a story and stuff with mediums in it so i wanted to know more about them so it doesnt just seem like im pullin junk out of my butt
i mostly wanna know stuff like what they can do and how they do it. like methods or rituals or whathaveyou.

 
You might find reading about Lily Dale helpful: it's a spiritualist community that has going for well over a century - their website has some info, and if you look at individual medium pages, they tell you a bit about how they work. There's also a fascinating book that came out a while back about the community, called _Lily Dale: The Town that Talks to the Dead_ by Christine Wicker.
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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2014, 03:20:50 pm »
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HI! i dont think im a medium or anythin. BUT im comin up with a story and stuff with mediums in it so i wanted to know more about them so it doesnt just seem like im pullin junk out of my butt
i mostly wanna know stuff like what they can do and how they do it. like methods or rituals or whathaveyou.

 
The term 'medium' covers a lot of territory, both in terms of methodologies and experiences. There isn't a single set of standards, rituals, or behaviors that are embraced universally by all mediums.  

It might help to know a little more specifics about the context of the writing that you're doing, Olie.  As Mama Fortune asked, it would be helpful to know if you are talking about historic or modern mediums.

Also, it might help to know what the medium's focus and purpose is. For example, a well-known professional medium who does very public work is going to be mindful of keeping their methods entertaining and engaging and therefore are much more likely to add some superfluous stuff to heighten the drama of what they do.  Likewise, someone whose sole focus is assisting the dead to 'move on' is going to operate under very different parameters than a person who is acting as a point of contact between the dead and the living.  A person who is practicing within the context of an organized religious community like Lily Dale is likely going to have a different set of rituals than an individual who works solo in a non-religious context.  

In other words, the answer to your question depends on the time frame, the person's background, the type of mediumship work that they're doing, and what the desired end result of that work is.
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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2014, 11:25:59 am »
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The term 'medium' covers a lot of territory, both in terms of methodologies and experiences. There isn't a single set of standards, rituals, or behaviors that are embraced universally by all mediums.  

It might help to know a little more specifics about the context of the writing that you're doing, Olie.  As Mama Fortune asked, it would be helpful to know if you are talking about historic or modern mediums.

Also, it might help to know what the medium's focus and purpose is. For example, a well-known professional medium who does very public work is going to be mindful of keeping their methods entertaining and engaging and therefore are much more likely to add some superfluous stuff to heighten the drama of what they do.  Likewise, someone whose sole focus is assisting the dead to 'move on' is going to operate under very different parameters than a person who is acting as a point of contact between the dead and the living.  A person who is practicing within the context of an organized religious community like Lily Dale is likely going to have a different set of rituals than an individual who works solo in a non-religious context.  

In other words, the answer to your question depends on the time frame, the person's background, the type of mediumship work that they're doing, and what the desired end result of that work is.

wowsy thanks everyone! i got lots more answers then i was expectin!
but yeah i guess i was goin for a pretty big area there... PRETTY MUCH the story im makin has a bunch of people who are tryin to learn special skills. and some of them are witches and some are mediums and some are other stuff. but witches and mediums had the most that would really need any research. i already know a ton of stuff about witches tho. so i just wanted the medium side have the same amount of research. mostly i wanted to know what mediums could do. but also what kinds of rituals or methods they used so i could come up with classes and training in the story that they would do to learn their skills

so far i figured they could see, sense, channle and communicate with ghosts and spirits of nature. and that they might have some psychic skills like having visions and reading minds/emotions. but i dont know if thats just made up stuff from TV or not. and the only ritual thing i know they do are those fancy sceances but i dont know much about those

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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2014, 11:57:09 am »
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so far i figured they could see, sense, channle and communicate with ghosts and spirits of nature. and that they might have some psychic skills like having visions and reading minds/emotions. but i dont know if thats just made up stuff from TV or not. and the only ritual thing i know they do are those fancy sceances but i dont know much about those

 
I'm going to second Jenett's recommendation of 'Lily Dale' and also throw in one for a book called 'Spook' by Mary Roach. Roach's book is of a scientific bent, but she has a section devoted to oldschool mediums and seances that gives a good idea of what those parties used to be like. Also she looks at a box of ectoplasm. It's very funny.

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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2014, 12:27:48 pm »
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so far i figured they could see, sense, channle and communicate with ghosts and spirits of nature. and that they might have some psychic skills like having visions and reading minds/emotions. but i dont know if thats just made up stuff from TV or not. and the only ritual thing i know they do are those fancy sceances but i dont know much about those

 
This is one of those things where individual miles may vary.  Not all mediums can actually see the dead (clairvoyance), but may only hear or sense them (clairaudience and clairsentience respectively).  Channeling is a very specific activity that isn't as commonly practiced as many of the other forms, as it requires the practitioner to relinquish control over their body in order to for the spirit to speak and act through them. Other psychic abilities vary from person to person, as does the ability to communicate with non-human entities.

Seances are also one of those things that come up a lot in pop-culture depictions, that are not necessarily representative of mediumship as a whole.  Most of these are more focused on creating an ooky-spooky atmosphere for the participants that helps them to suspend disbelief (often with the aim of increasing the medium's reputation and/or wallet).  FWIW, I've yet to meet anyone with even marginal mediumship abilities who needed to hold a seance in order to communicate with the dead.

On a practical note, if you're trying to write something with a realistic rather than fantasy bent, pendulum work is an easily accessible way to learn basic spirit communications.  Most of the folks that I know who learned mediumship did so using a pendulum or similar method that permitted yes or no answers.  Other alternatives might be a freely suspended bell or chime, an EMF meter, a candle flame, or pretty much anything that the spirit can easily act upon.  

Another thing to keep in mind is that many people who are mediums did not learn the skill, but instead were either born with an innate ability or developed it as the result of trauma (e.g., near death experiences).  In those cases, it's not a matter of learning how so much as learning how to control and, if desired, hone the ability.
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2014, 03:14:55 pm »
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You might find reading about Lily Dale helpful: it's a spiritualist community that has going for well over a century - their website has some info, and if you look at individual medium pages, they tell you a bit about how they work. There's also a fascinating book that came out a while back about the community, called _Lily Dale: The Town that Talks to the Dead_ by Christine Wicker.

 
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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2014, 03:03:48 am »
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On a practical note, if you're trying to write something with a realistic rather than fantasy bent, pendulum work is an easily accessible way to learn basic spirit communications.  Most of the folks that I know who learned mediumship did so using a pendulum or similar method that permitted yes or no answers.  Other alternatives might be a freely suspended bell or chime, an EMF meter, a candle flame, or pretty much anything that the spirit can easily act upon.  

Another thing to keep in mind is that many people who are mediums did not learn the skill, but instead were either born with an innate ability or developed it as the result of trauma (e.g., near death experiences).  In those cases, it's not a matter of learning how so much as learning how to control and, if desired, hone the ability.

im still gunna fantasy it up a lot. but i want a lot of the stuff to be real. or at least come from somethin real. and i really like the pendulum idea! its a easy little tool that could be different for each character and probably be used in lotsa different ways. ALSO i was tryin to decide if i wanted mediumship to be a learnable skill like witchcraft or somethin else. and now i decided to go in the somethin else way! so thanks!

also wow lily dale is actually a really snazzy place. what the fribble frobble do witches have stuff like that? cuz thats somethin i could totally get down with

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also wow lily dale is actually a really snazzy place. what the fribble frobble do witches have stuff like that? cuz thats somethin i could totally get down with


Lily Dale is snazzy! That's why I'm planning to move back :)

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Lily Dale is snazzy! That's why I'm planning to move back :)

 
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