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Apparently shutting the door doesn't mean jack....
« on: February 06, 2013, 02:57:13 pm »
Allow me to the preface this by saying there was a ouija board session held at my house about half a year ago, and that's when this particular ghostie decided to make himself known.  From what myself and my two friends could gather, the spirit wasn't malevolent in any way, mostly just choosing to pinch my friend's arm just for the sake of getting attention.   We got a name pretty much right away, and from further inquiry, we learned it was a pretty young spirit at that.

Now, push forward about a month into the future.   When I got into the bathroom to get ready for bed, or take a shower, I would sometimes feel a presence in the bathroom with me.  This had been going on for a while, and increasing in frequency ever since the ouija board session.  

At some points, I was even followed into the shower, or the curtain would be messed with, earning the spirit a quick "get out!"   He's toned it down since I moved to a dorm (apparently he moved with me...:confused:) and I've tried not to be so vocal about telling him to leave.

Still, I was wondering if there was anyway to stop the ritual of me having invisible company while I'm trying to get ready for bed?
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Re: Apparently shutting the door doesn't mean jack....
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2013, 12:59:13 am »
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Still, I was wondering if there was anyway to stop the ritual of me having invisible company while I'm trying to get ready for bed?



   Well I feel that Ouija Boards are merely tools for communicating with spirits of the dead and perhaps other entities looking to mess with misguiding humans. They have no inherent power in themselves to guarantee any rituals involving them will lead to the successful summoning, contact, communication, and banishing of any spirit of any type and should be treated with more respect than a mere parlor game.

  What you and your friends did to prepare to use the Ouija Board and what was said as you all were gathered around could be key in determining what may have gone wrong. You did not state if anyone involved was sensitive and/or could read spirit energy well enough to determine if all you asked of the spirit was actually being domw by it or if it actually did leave when it was time for it to go. You can't just go thru the ritual of a banishing, you also have to read the energy to feel if it is really gone not to return unless you wish it.

 Sometimes all bets are off and you may find yourself involved in a impromptu therapy session with a spirit attracted to the energy raised during Ouija Board sessions..a spirit who may need help, is lost, or is just a trickster. Sometiems spirits come who just want to talk as well but all present should collectively be cognisant of what exactly is going on as much as possible. Spirits are not things you just take out of boxes and pack away again when you are thru playing with them.

   If you just don't want this young spirit going in certain places, just ward those places like the bedroom or bathroom to keep it at bay. You haven't emphatically stated you wanted the spirit just to be gone all together exactly. If you or nobody you know is able to ward an area from spirits, it would seem imprudent to mess around with Ouija Boards.

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Re: Apparently shutting the door doesn't mean jack....
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2013, 03:46:21 pm »
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Well I feel that Ouija Boards are merely tools for communicating with spirits of the dead and perhaps other entities looking to mess with misguiding humans. They have no inherent power in themselves to guarantee any rituals involving them will lead to the successful summoning, contact, communication, and banishing of any spirit of any type and should be treated with more respect than a mere parlor game.

  What you and your friends did to prepare to use the Ouija Board and what was said as you all were gathered around could be key in determining what may have gone wrong. You did not state if anyone involved was sensitive and/or could read spirit energy well enough to determine if all you asked of the spirit was actually being domw by it or if it actually did leave when it was time for it to go. You can't just go thru the ritual of a banishing, you also have to read the energy to feel if it is really gone not to return unless you wish it.

 Sometimes all bets are off and you may find yourself involved in a impromptu therapy session with a spirit attracted to the energy raised during Ouija Board sessions..a spirit who may need help, is lost, or is just a trickster. Sometiems spirits come who just want to talk as well but all present should collectively be cognisant of what exactly is going on as much as possible. Spirits are not things you just take out of boxes and pack away again when you are thru playing with them.

   If you just don't want this young spirit going in certain places, just ward those places like the bedroom or bathroom to keep it at bay. You haven't emphatically stated you wanted the spirit just to be gone all together exactly. If you or nobody you know is able to ward an area from spirits, it would seem imprudent to mess around with Ouija Boards.

I'll respond as best I can -- I know that both of my friends, one more than the other, are sensitive to spirits, and this may sound odd, but when all three of us are together... the trouble finds us, let's just put it that way.  Normally, it's just a random spirit that we communicate to through the board, or something more sinister (which my one friend has put up wards against on more than one occasion, especially when said sinister thing started following us around the house.   She put up a lot of wards, and it was gone some time later.)  But that was a long time ago.

I'm aware of what some spirits are capable of (though the one I mentioned just wants attention and nothing more), I've heard firsthand what some spirits have done to my one friend (the one with the most warding knowledge) and I know they aren't to be trifled with.    Stating this, my friends and I use the ouija board as a means of communicating with what lives in our respective houses/what's just passing through, etc. and have put up wards before.   My warding friend has some particularly... strange things in her house, and that's why the ouija board sessions rarely, if ever, take place there.   We've only done that on occasions where we were communicating with another force, and not the shadows living in her house (wards were put in place.)

Anyway, I should've been clearer about my intentions.  No, I don't want the spirit gone entirely (he's a rather playful presence) and so wards in the bathroom seem like the best plan.
« Last Edit: February 10, 2013, 03:47:31 pm by Wandering »
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Re: Apparently shutting the door doesn't mean jack....
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2013, 01:30:43 am »
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From what myself and my two friends could gather, the spirit wasn't malevolent in any way, mostly just choosing to pinch my friend's arm just for the sake of getting attention.   We got a name pretty much right away, and from further inquiry, we learned it was a pretty young spirit at that.

At some points, I was even followed into the shower, or the curtain would be messed with, earning the spirit a quick "get out!"   He's toned it down since I moved to a dorm (apparently he moved with me...:confused:) and I've tried not to be so vocal about telling him to leave.

Still, I was wondering if there was anyway to stop the ritual of me having invisible company while I'm trying to get ready for bed?



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Well I feel that Ouija Boards are merely tools for communicating with spirits of the dead and perhaps other entities looking to mess with misguiding If you just don't want this young spirit going in certain places, just ward those places like the bedroom or bathroom to keep it at bay. You haven't emphatically stated you wanted the spirit just to be gone all together exactly. If you or nobody you know is able to ward an area from spirits, it would seem imprudent to mess around with Ouija Boards.

 
A Young Male Spirit, following an (and forgive me for being presumptuous) attractive lady into the shower and bed .... this may be only from the male perspective, but did you expect anything else? It ain't all hormonal - there is something inherent in being male. :o

Warding the no-no rooms would probably be the best bet. Otherwise it could lead to some other "interested" pinches, or devolve into one of those silly plotlines used in Japanese Anime and you don't strike me as the tentacle type of gal ... :whis:
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Re: Apparently shutting the door doesn't mean jack....
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2013, 02:18:13 am »
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A Young Male Spirit, following an (and forgive me for being presumptuous) attractive lady into the shower and bed .... this may be only from the male perspective, but did you expect anything else? It ain't all hormonal - there is something inherent in being male. :o

Warding the no-no rooms would probably be the best bet. Otherwise it could lead to some other "interested" pinches, or devolve into one of those silly plotlines used in Japanese Anime and you don't strike me as the tentacle type of gal ... :whis:

As a man, I'm a little offended that you think rapey-ness is inherent in being male. It's really minimalizing of problematic behavior to brush that behavior off as "boys will be boys" even if it's a spirit involved. If she doesn't want to be watched, she has that right.

I would agree that if you can't ask the spirit to respect certain parts of your house, warding those spaces is probably the next best solution if you want to keep him around.
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Re: Apparently shutting the door doesn't mean jack....
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2013, 05:05:01 am »
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As a man, I'm a little offended that you think rapey-ness is inherent in being male. It's really minimalizing of problematic behavior to brush that behavior off as "boys will be boys" even if it's a spirit involved. If she doesn't want to be watched, she has that right.


The second part was meant to be humor, unfortunately my sense of it is a little bit warped. I apologize if it was taken wrong.

The first part wasn't meant to be about "rapey-ness" but attraction between the male and female and natural curiousness of the young.
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Re: Apparently shutting the door doesn't mean jack....
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2013, 02:50:07 pm »
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The second part was meant to be humor, unfortunately my sense of it is a little bit warped. I apologize if it was taken wrong.

The first part wasn't meant to be about "rapey-ness" but attraction between the male and female and natural curiousness of the young.

 
Yeah, but it's still a comment about how guys can't help crossing the boundaries of women, which is an attitude that comes out of rape culture and is something that needs to be changed. Perving is not an incontrovertible part of our biology.
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Re: Apparently shutting the door doesn't mean jack....
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2013, 09:12:59 pm »
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A Young Male Spirit, following an (and forgive me for being presumptuous) attractive lady into the shower and bed .... this may be only from the male perspective, but did you expect anything else? It ain't all hormonal - there is something inherent in being male. :o

Warding the no-no rooms would probably be the best bet. Otherwise it could lead to some other "interested" pinches, or devolve into one of those silly plotlines used in Japanese Anime and you don't strike me as the tentacle type of gal ... :whis:

*raises eyebrow*  

Okay, so you're saying that, because he's a male spirit, he's just following me into the shower out of curiosity and need, and because I'm female, it's bound to escalate because he won't be able to control himself?   I'm siding with Jack on this one, you're putting his behavior off as "oh, she's a chick, the spirit's a boy, it's gonna happen.", and implying that men have no boundaries when it comes to women.
I have several problems with that.

Considering the fact that all the pinching the spirit has ever done was to my friend's arm to get attention, I doubt anything is going to be taken any further than that.

As for the shower thing (he's never follow me into my bed), I've always interpreted that action as an attempt to get my attention, not as a move on me as a female, but solely to grab onto the attention of the human living in the room in which the he resides.  

All in all, warding the bathroom is definitely in order.
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Re: Apparently shutting the door doesn't mean jack....
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Yeah, but it's still a comment about how guys can't help crossing the boundaries of women, which is an attitude that comes out of rape culture and is something that needs to be changed. Perving is not an incontrovertible part of our biology.

 
Thank you.

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« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2013, 09:03:24 pm »
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Yeah, but it's still a comment about how guys can't help crossing the boundaries of women, which is an attitude that comes out of rape culture and is something that needs to be changed. Perving is not an incontrovertible part of our biology.

 
Very well said.
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