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Author Topic: What exactly would you call this?  (Read 1175 times)

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What exactly would you call this?
« on: May 14, 2012, 05:02:06 pm »
Ok, so I know I have another topic but after a few days and really thinking hard about it, this stuff feels right to me.

I had a discussion with my therapist about this, about how me, someone who is so rational and critical of religion could believe in such nonsense like thor and zeus and etc.

He basically asked me does it feel right or are you just doing it because it interest you, I explained that it felt right to me, strangely. He basically told me we have no physical proof for any of the gods, and as long as I followed the golden rule then what else matters. Basically he said If I believed it to be true, then it was.
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Topic starts here: Ok, so I think this is basically what I believe, I have thought really hard about this and it just feels so right to me. I just have no clue what I would call this or how to start practicing.

Basically, I believe in 1 god and 1 goddess. I believe that all gods and goddesses are just personas given to the god and godess. I do not think of the gods as having human like emotions or figures, I believe the god and goddess are made of a higher form of energy we humans do not comprehend. I believe the God and Goddess do interact with us in somewhat human like ways, but I do not believe the God gets angry, for example.
I believe emotions are tied to the goddess and represent her power, for instance when you feel anger or jealously, I don't believe the goddess gets angry or jealous, but I do believe those emotions are symbolic of her powers. I believe when nature occurs, like a thunderstorm or earthquake, that is symbolic of the gods power. I do not believe the god and goddess literally cause these things to happen, I just think they are symbolic in nature.
I believe the God and Goddess are above human emotion, and cannot feel anger or jealously because it is petty. Like I said I just believe those are reflections of their power.
I believe in 1 god and 1 goddess believe I believe in Yin Yang, you can't have one without the other. You can't have good without evil, you can't have a God without a Goddess. I believe that all gods throughout time are just physical descriptions by man to give us an image of the god or goddess, and the various powers assigned different gods. For example, I think one god controls all nature, but the greeks had Posiden for water, and Zeus for Air. Basically I think no matter which god you worship, it all relates back to the 1 God, or 1 Goddess. Thor is just a physical description man provided us, I do not believe the gods have physical bodies.
I believe when you die you are judged on your actions you did in life, not by worshiping the god or goddess. That will obviously be a factor in the final judgement but does not mean you get a one way ticket to hell.
I do not believe humans can cast spells or anything like that. I believe it is simply the gods interacting with us.

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Re: What exactly would you call this?
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2012, 05:26:47 pm »
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Topic starts here: Ok, so I think this is basically what I believe, I have thought really hard about this and it just feels so right to me. I just have no clue what I would call this or how to start practicing.


Duotheism.

And you are already practicing it. Stop overthinking this religion thing and start experiencing it. As I said before, religion is not a mind thing but a heart thing ;-)
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Re: What exactly would you call this?
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2012, 05:59:01 pm »
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Duotheism.

And you are already practicing it. Stop overthinking this religion thing and start experiencing it. As I said before, religion is not a mind thing but a heart thing ;-)

 
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Re: What exactly would you call this?
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2012, 06:04:35 pm »
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Duotheism.

And you are already practicing it. Stop overthinking this religion thing and start experiencing it. As I said before, religion is not a mind thing but a heart thing ;-)

 
I think that people tend to overthink way too much on MOST things...sometimes, you just have to go with what feels right to you, regardless of rhyme or reason.

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Re: What exactly would you call this?
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2012, 06:32:14 pm »
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Duotheism.

And you are already practicing it. Stop overthinking this religion thing and start experiencing it. As I said before, religion is not a mind thing but a heart thing ;-)

 
This!! - LWM makes a good point, stop disecting and start experiencing.  The only way to really know what your path will be is to start doing things, experiment, test, try out new ways.

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Re: What exactly would you call this?
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2012, 07:23:09 pm »
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I have thought really hard about this and it just feels so right to me. I just have no clue what I would call this or how to start practicing.

 
First, as others have said, relax.  Religion is not something you can work out in a few days...or years, for that matter.  Religion is a journey, not a destination.  It's all about experiencing, feeling, and -- yes -- even thinking.  ;)  But it's not about reaching the goal of hiving it all figured out.

Personally, although labels and names can certainly help us understand ourselves, each other, and the world, I don't think it's important or necessary to have a name for everything.  Especially something like a spiritual path.  Especially when you're just beginning to walk your path.

That said, what you've described sounds to me like a soft form of polytheism (which would include the duotheism someone else mentioned). "Soft" because you're describing the various deities as aspects of the two overarching deities.  "Hard" polytheists believe all god/desses to be individual entities.  The terms "hard" and "soft" in this context are not intended to be value judgments of any kind.  They're simply descriptors for different points in the range.

We have some resources here on TC to help you get started learning about paganism and about your own path.  (And it's really important to understand that many pagans never feel they fit into already established traditions or paths, and so end up making their own.)  I'd very strongly recommend that you take a look at the Pagan Primer and the Teens and Paganism FAQ (just ignore the parts that are specifically related to teens; there's plenty of great info and links that are useful for all ages).  

In addition, one of our long-time members, Jenett, has a fantastic website for people new to paganism, called Seeking: First Steps and Tools, which I also recommend very strongly.

Take a look at these resources, and just take it from there.  But be patient with yourself. It's a process.  You're not going to find clear-cut answers over night.

Good luck!

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Re: What exactly would you call this?
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2012, 10:29:06 pm »
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Topic starts here: Ok, so I think this is basically what I believe, I have thought really hard about this and it just feels so right to me. I just have no clue what I would call this or how to start practicing.

 
I would definitely call this soft polytheism. When I first began my pagan path I was obsessed with labels and the "need" to call myself something. At some point you have so many books and so much material on various religions they start to meld, or at least for me since I'm not a recon, into an eclectic pot of occultism, religion, and various philosophies and ideas in your head. I just hold the label Hellenic Neopagan so I can identify with like minds, since I worship the Greek pantheon, but also incorporate many neopagan "things."

At some point I took my face out of the books and began to experience what is and what could be, in terms of religious experience. I find that meditation on a symbol, phrase (for me a Delphic Maxim), or name really can bring out your subconscious (and perhaps something else.) Or, I know a lot of neopagans who "circle meditate," I'm not sure what it's actually called, but it's meditation that focuses on creating and holding a circle in your mind.

I hope I was of assistance, it's hard to read through all the helpful posts on this page!

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Re: What exactly would you call this?
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2012, 04:34:42 am »
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Stop overthinking this religion thing and start experiencing it.

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