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Author Topic: Patron Gods from Diffrent Pantheons  (Read 4733 times)

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Patron Gods from Diffrent Pantheons
« on: August 03, 2011, 03:23:36 am »
What are your thoughts on having a patron god and a goddess from different pantheons? Say maybe a Norse god and a Hindu goddess? Several people have told me under no circumstances should I do it, however others have said it's fine to do so. What are your thoughts? Does anybody here have gods and goddesses from different pantheons as their patrons?

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Re: Patron Gods from Diffrent Pantheons
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2011, 07:29:57 am »
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What are your thoughts on having a patron god and a goddess from different pantheons? Say maybe a Norse god and a Hindu goddess? Several people have told me under no circumstances should I do it, however others have said it's fine to do so. What are your thoughts? Does anybody here have gods and goddesses from different pantheons as their patrons?

 
It depends on what you are planning to do with it, really. If you just want to work freeform, there is no requirement that you _must_ have both a god and a goddess even. Maybe you get hit on the head by two goddesses. Maybe you're drawn to three gods and one goddess. Maybe you hold a rite to the ancestors on friday, Athene on saturday and the Sphinx on sunday, keeping them all separate.

If you're planning on doing a Wiccish Great Rite or similar where all are participants in the same ritual, on the other hand, you really want to think about which ones are a good match with each other, whether from the same pantheon or not.

Personally I have my main patrons both greek (Gaia and Pan), but I also worship another greek (Athena) and an egyptian goddess (Sekhmet). I have almost no wiccish influences left on my practice and in all but Pan's case, they chose me, not the other way round.
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Re: Patron Gods from Diffrent Pantheons
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2011, 02:30:05 pm »
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What are your thoughts on having a patron god and a goddess from different pantheons? Say maybe a Norse god and a Hindu goddess? Several people have told me under no circumstances should I do it, however others have said it's fine to do so. What are your thoughts? Does anybody here have gods and goddesses from different pantheons as their patrons?

 
Why, specifically, have they told you not to do it?

I have two patroness goddesses, both from the same pantheon: Sekhmet and Hwt-Hrw. However. I am also starting to work with vodou/the lwa, which, is pretty damn opposite from the Kemetic practices. My best friend had Demeter and Brighid as her two patroness deities for quite some time. I mean, it's pretty common, if you ask me.
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Re: Patron Gods from Diffrent Pantheons
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2011, 03:37:28 pm »
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What are your thoughts on having a patron god and a goddess from different pantheons?

My perspective is probably rare. I believe that gods and goddesses of every pantheon (and indeed all pictorial, literary or institutional representations of the notion of divinity) are just representations of nature itself, which exceeds any ideas of gender or human superiority. I don't literally believe that Thor controls the thunder, for example, and looks like a human being. I believe that Thor is a perfect personification of thunder and that acknowledging him allows me to clarify my thoughts and feelings about nature and my place within it. Acknowledging Thor is also a way of according respect to the old ones and the old ways.

So, for me, all gods and goddesses are wholly appropriate for reverence as one entity. The ones that I can relate to and that spark my imagination are the ones I go for. I identify with figures predominantly from the Norse, Egyptian and Greek pantheons but I also think of the Bible as a book of mythology (albeit poorly written in comparison to the others) and the Arthurian tales are also a great reference when I'm communing with the divine.

But this is just me.

Most people who talk about the gods in terms of their personalities are not saying, as I am, that their personalities are descriptions of the nature of the elements they represent. They are saying that the gods literally have different personalities and in that sense I can totally see why there would be worries about clashes..
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Re: Patron Gods from Diffrent Pantheons
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2011, 05:57:04 pm »
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What are your thoughts on having a patron god and a goddess from different pantheons? Say maybe a Norse god and a Hindu goddess? Several people have told me under no circumstances should I do it, however others have said it's fine to do so. What are your thoughts? Does anybody here have gods and goddesses from different pantheons as their patrons?


I work with Hecate and Brighid, both of whom called me and get along fine.

I believe that deities choose their people, not the other way around, and if they don't mind mingling, people shouldn't, either. If they do mind, they make it clear, as well.
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Re: Patron Gods from Diffrent Pantheons
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2011, 08:22:12 pm »
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Why, specifically, have they told you not to do it?

I have two patroness goddesses, both from the same pantheon: Sekhmet and Hwt-Hrw. However. I am also starting to work with vodou/the lwa, which, is pretty damn opposite from the Kemetic practices. My best friend had Demeter and Brighid as her two patroness deities for quite some time. I mean, it's pretty common, if you ask me.


I was told by a couple of fellow Pagan friends of mine that I should not go "out of pantheon" as they put it because they said a lot of gods/goddesses can get angry if their followers pay homage to another god/goddess out of their pantheon. It sounded quite silly to me but do you think that's true?

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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2011, 06:06:39 pm »
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I was told by a couple of fellow Pagan friends of mine that I should not go "out of pantheon" as they put it because they said a lot of gods/goddesses can get angry if their followers pay homage to another god/goddess out of their pantheon. It sounded quite silly to me but do you think that's true?

 
That would really depend on the circumstances. I think, what they meant was, don't try to honor the god as Zeus and the goddess as Lakshmi in ritual. At the same time. Having multiple patrons from various pantheons is fine. It's just a respect thing.
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Re: Patron Gods from Diffrent Pantheons
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2011, 08:57:50 pm »
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What are your thoughts on having a patron god and a goddess from different pantheons? Say maybe a Norse god and a Hindu goddess? Several people have told me under no circumstances should I do it, however others have said it's fine to do so. What are your thoughts? Does anybody here have gods and goddesses from different pantheons as their patrons?



I have Yahweh and Demeter, but Demeter is a question.
Yahweh has been with me for a while, I THINK.

So, I have yet to realize or see these gods 'choosing' me or if Yahweh and Demeter have a problem with each other.

I'm totally clueless, also.
How do you know when  a God chooses you?

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Re: Patron Gods from Diffrent Pantheons
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2011, 01:21:48 am »
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What are your thoughts? Does anybody here have gods and goddesses from different pantheons as their patrons?


I think it's very much up to the individual and their deities. If you're called to work with more than one deity - either in a patron sense or simply feeling as though honouring them might be a good idea - then do your research. Are they from cultures that were traditionally at odds? Do they tend to be jealous/possessive? Would fulfilling your duties to both of them be difficult?

The deities I work with come from three separate pantheons, but the two deities I belong to come from the same area. It's just a matter of who calls you, really - pantheon-wise and personality-wise.
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Re: Patron Gods from Diffrent Pantheons
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2011, 04:56:00 am »
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How do you know when  a God chooses you?

It depends on the god and the person :) I know that's a cop-out answer, but even just my personal experience has ranged from 'being directly told' to 'vague hints and signs that took me years to figure out'.

I'm not sure if there's a specific thread for this - I know there was one on the old board - but if there's not, maybe start a thread? I'd be interested to hear the responses myself, and it might be helpful for other people who are trying to figure out if they're godbothered, called to honour a deity, or something else :)
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Re: Patron Gods from Diffrent Pantheons
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2014, 03:04:13 am »
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What are your thoughts on having a patron god and a goddess from different pantheons? Say maybe a Norse god and a Hindu goddess? Several people have told me under no circumstances should I do it, however others have said it's fine to do so. What are your thoughts? Does anybody here have gods and goddesses from different pantheons as their patrons?

 
I'm in a Grove, I see alot of this, and just through my own experience as well. My own being that I thought my Patron was Brigid and I identified as a Celtic Druid for a very long time until I figured out that Brigid was my Protector, and Hades and Persephone were my Patron and Matron deities. Turns out that from what they've told me, Hades and Persephone asked Brigid to protect my soul before I was born. Almost like asking her to be my godmother in a sense.
However, one of the girls in the Grove she talks to two deities that hardly get along. I don't understand how she deals with the constant arguing. And they are from the same pantheon.
Arguing between deities will happen eventually just because they have a different idea of how to take care of you and what you need to learn and how to teach you what you need to learn. The pantheon doesn't really matter. My advice to you is that you talk to both of them together about being on the same page. That usually helps.
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