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Re: Learning More About Odin
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2013, 11:31:55 am »
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I have a feeling Odin's reaction to a water offering would be something along the lines of, "unless you're going to magically turn that into mead, I would suggest you get me the real deal."

 
Heh. He seems pretty amenable to cider too, maybe because it's something the norse would have been able to produce locally. Whisky also always goes down well. When he wanted mead, I told him beer was all I had - so we came to the agreement that he'd drink it if I did too. *bleargh* :p

Wine is really a last resort, on par with pure water.

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Re: Learning More About Odin
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2013, 03:41:42 pm »
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Thinking of the glass of water in summer - the same way I wonder what the Netjeru think of the snow we get here in the mountains sometimes, I wonder what the Aesir and Vanir think of the sweltering hot summers and heat waves that rock through the state at times. Especially the gods who are related specifically to snow. (I think of a /very/ grumpy Skadhi, all decked out in her snow gear and snow shoes, arms crossed as She sits on my front porch glaring at the sun. :D)


When I was living in Phoenix, I just plain didn't feel Skadhi's presence at all - I had to go up into the mountains for that. With the rest of the gods, though, I felt like they understood the desert. It's weather that can be harsh and even life-threatening, that requires you to respect nature whether you want to or not, and in that respect I think it's not dissimilar to what they're used to in the far north.
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Re: Learning More About Odin
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2013, 06:27:54 pm »
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When I was living in Phoenix, I just plain didn't feel Skadhi's presence at all - I had to go up into the mountains for that. With the rest of the gods, though, I felt like they understood the desert. It's weather that can be harsh and even life-threatening, that requires you to respect nature whether you want to or not, and in that respect I think it's not dissimilar to what they're used to in the far north.


We go on nature hikes up in the White Tanks and sometimes there'll be mountain lion warnings posted. Walking out there knowing something could be stalking you definitely feels like Skadi. Especially considering that a lot of Germanic goddesses ruled over the wild and untamed places, just outside the laws of man and community. So as a wild, hunting female I do believe she's in the puma.

As a winter goddess, I can see her in the heavy snow clouds that lazily blanket the valley on their way to Flagstaff, resting on peaks and plateaus and just missing the ground at the northern horizon. And it can get cold at night in the desert.

I also agree with you that the harshness of the desert is pretty similar to the harshness of the north, just expressed differently.
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« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2013, 10:06:18 pm »
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Hi, I'm so new to Norse Paganism/Heathenism that I don't even know where to start. I feel drawn to Odin, the King of the Norse gods, and I don't even know what offerings he likes or nothing. I read that mead is offered during Blots but I'm not a fan of the stuff. Wine makes me sick and ale, I don't even want to go there. Any ideas would be helpful and thanks a bunch.

 
Another idea is a reliquary box. A wooden box where you stash stuff that reminds you of Odin or stuff that is associated with him. And then you put it on your altar.

I did one of those.
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« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2013, 10:32:03 pm »
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I used to pour them outside but I'm less worried these days - to me they are 'spent', the important bit has gone and so they're literally just waste product now so the sink is appropriate.

I don't think liquid is a waste to grass or trees or a bush. That's my thought behind it, anyway. I'd rather that go straight back into the water cycle instead of it going to a treatment facility. YMMV, of course!

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I often share my offerings i.e they're part of what I'm drinking. Does anyone else do this? I open a beer, pour offerings to the gods, my ancestors and a little for the housewight and then finish the bottle myself.

 Yes, I do! Not all the time, but when I'm feeling particularly jovial or inspired. :)
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« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2013, 10:34:02 pm »
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(My Yankee girlfriend seems to report that it's flipped up north - that guests are supposed to bring the hosts gifts and offer to do the dishes? Not sure if it's her family's rules versus my family's instead of a northern/southern thing, though.)

I've definitely experienced this! I feel very uncomfortable when I offer to help with serving or clearing the table and the host gently turns me down... even though I knew that I would probably be turned down. I want to be useful and show my gratitude! A gift for a gift, and all.
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Re: Learning More About Odin
« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2013, 10:35:17 pm »
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As a winter goddess, I can see her in the heavy snow clouds that lazily blanket the valley on their way to Flagstaff, resting on peaks and plateaus and just missing the ground at the northern horizon. And it can get cold at night in the desert.

I spent a few months late last year teaching in Kayenta... fresh snow on the mesa is one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen. Thanks for the reminder. :)
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Re: Learning More About Odin
« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2013, 10:37:52 pm »
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I thought about this yesterday because (for some odd reason) I remembered that it's against the law around here to deprive someone a drink of water. And not in an old "steal a horse in Kansas way"; it's really still in affect.  So, I think a glass of water during the height of summer would be appropriate here. Goes back to hospitality, looking after one another, following the rules of the land. Very Havamal-ish.

Does anyone else have a regional thing like that?

 
Sorta, except with the Netjeru.

We have a lot of weather extremes where I live (usually too freakin' hot, too freakin' windy, or too freakin' cold). I've noticed that liquid offerings that take these extremes into account are especially welcome. For example, when it's too freakin' hot, ice cold water is welcome--this one actually has some small basis in antiquity.

When it's too freakin' cold, hot cocoa has gone over really, REALLY well, at least with Bast.
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« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2013, 01:26:28 am »
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I've definitely experienced this! I feel very uncomfortable when I offer to help with serving or clearing the table and the host gently turns me down... even though I knew that I would probably be turned down. I want to be useful and show my gratitude! A gift for a gift, and all.


My mom's family came from Idaho (is that Yankee?) and I was always taught to help with the dishes afterwards. When we moved to Germany I tried to help my husband's Oma and she wouldn't let me. All she said was "When I come to visit you, you do it for me." I was also surprised to hear that Germans (at least the ones I met in Bavaria) provide their own birthday cake/pay for party-goers rather than the other way around.

As to food/drink offerings, it's usually something I'm having as well.
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« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2013, 08:12:04 pm »
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I'll go on Amazon.com and check it out. I've got a Kindle App so I can download the book onto my app and read it. Thanks for the response and I'll read them. I've got a feeling their going to be great editions to my slowly growing Heathen library.

 
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« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2013, 08:16:23 pm »
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I have a very distant respectful fascination for Odin.

 
For some reason that just cracks me up. Cause I kinda understand it.
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« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2013, 11:28:36 pm »
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If your options are limited, you could browse the liquor section and see if you get any "feeling" one way or the other from Odin.

 
Following your gut instincts (or listening to Odin) is a good way to go I think.  But also just try things.  You'll find what works best for you or Odin.
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« Reply #27 on: January 09, 2013, 05:18:10 pm »
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I have a feeling Odin's reaction to a water offering would be something along the lines of, "unless you're going to magically turn that into mead, I would suggest you get me the real deal."

 
I saw a heathen group on YT doing water for Odin and the other gods and goddess. Would milk work? Or is that another god, or goddess, preferred offering. How about tea? I don't have any money for booze, I'm on Food Stamps for right now because what my mother gets each month from Social Security is enough to pay the bills but not much left for food. I have to wait until the factory re-opens before I can finally go for work.

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« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2013, 05:20:51 pm »
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Heh. He seems pretty amenable to cider too, maybe because it's something the norse would have been able to produce locally. Whisky also always goes down well. When he wanted mead, I told him beer was all I had - so we came to the agreement that he'd drink it if I did too. *bleargh* :p

Wine is really a last resort, on par with pure water.

Working with runes is also a good offering; give him time and effort and magical work. Learn about him and be the kind of person he appreciates.

 
Cider, yes. I can buy that with my Food Stamps. Trust me, I'm not proud to get them but I won't turn them away. Stomach won't allow it. Any good idea for food offerings to Odin? I wanted to ask instead of starting a new topic.

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« Reply #29 on: January 09, 2013, 06:58:57 pm »
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I saw a heathen group on YT doing water for Odin and the other gods and goddess. Would milk work? Or is that another god, or goddess, preferred offering. How about tea? I don't have any money for booze, I'm on Food Stamps for right now because what my mother gets each month from Social Security is enough to pay the bills but not much left for food. I have to wait until the factory re-opens before I can finally go for work.

If you are truly suffering, it's the thought that counts... if you can't afford anything fancy, water would be fine. And if you do get your hands on something fancy, just a little bit would be fine.

And yes, I've offered milk and orange juice before. Both seemed to be accepted! (They weren't specifically for Odin, though.)
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