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Author Topic: Angrboda "she who offers sorrow" (old norse and lingustics/translations)  (Read 838 times)

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So I'm writing my own version of the Myth of Tyr and Fenris.

I know that Angrboda  is know as "she who offers sorrow or "she who brings grief" and I imagine that the widely understood and believed  reason for this descriptions is because she literally brings devastation, brings grief to others through her destruction

However I'm thinking of maybe interpreting that differently in what I am writing to mean she has lots of sorrow/grief and she brings that in herself to all her interactions.

I guess this is a linguistic question for anyone that can read/understand Old Norse.

Is there anything in the actual original phrasing that obviously and overtly suggests that she brings  pain and sorrow to others through her behavior rather than she has lots of sorrow grief?

Thanks
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Is there anything in the actual original phrasing that obviously and overtly suggests that she brings  pain and sorrow to others through her behavior rather than she has lots of sorrow grief?

Thanks


The actual phrasing is, well, "Angrboða" and we've got limited Old Norse available to study, so in a lot of areas we've lost whatever nuance might have been there in the original. The name Angrboða is, like Járnviðja which has also been associated with her, as much a title as a name.
 
I am not a scholar, so someone can come along and correct me, but IIRC the "boda" portion of her name is related to the English bode (as in forebode), meaning to announce, and "angr" is related, as you may guess, the English anger. So it literally means that she announces grief or affliction.

How you interpret that is up to you, but I'll tell you that interpreting her in more sympathetic ways is fairly common in communities that you would expect to be sympathetic to a mother who saw her children taken away from her and imprisoned/exiled, and less so in communities that prefer hating on jotnar all the time.
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The actual phrasing is, well, "Angrboða" and we've got limited Old Norse available to study, so in a lot of areas we've lost whatever nuance might have been there in the original. The name Angrboða is, like Járnviðja which has also been associated with her, as much a title as a name.
 
I am not a scholar, so someone can come along and correct me, but IIRC the "boda" portion of her name is related to the English bode (as in forebode), meaning to announce, and "angr" is related, as you may guess, the English anger. So it literally means that she announces grief or affliction.

How you interpret that is up to you, but I'll tell you that interpreting her in more sympathetic ways is fairly common in communities that you would expect to be sympathetic to a mother who saw her children taken away from her and imprisoned/exiled, and less so in communities that prefer hating on jotnar all the time.

 
Thank you.

It's interesting to know that other people interpret it like that also
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