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A few questions on issues I am pondering
« on: January 28, 2014, 02:01:44 pm »
I'll try to group my thoughts into separate categories, so I don't overwhelm you with my questions!

1: I am very drawn to Faery Paganism, but I have never been contacted by a fae or interacted with them *that I know of* but I have always been drawn to the concept of Faeries and I want to explore this further. I am reading Faery Wiccan by Kisma Stepanich, and I am really intrigued by the concepts she introduces. Are there any other books or guides or groups I should look into?

2: I want to incorporate my ancestors into my practice, and I have a tentative altar begun to be set up in my living room. So far I have a set of family photos of my immediate family that belonged to my late Oma, a pressed Edelweiss flower of my Oma's, and a cross stitch Faery piece that my mother made me.  I feel like it should include more, but I am unsure what else to include.

3: Even though I am not Wiccan, I feel very drawn to the concept of a Book of Shadows/Grimoire.  Does anyone else keep one, and what do they call it? I have been tenatively calling mine a Spirit Journal, but it doesn't feel entirely accurate, as I have been noting apothecarium things in there, and it isn't entirely spirit related.

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Re: A few questions on issues I am pondering
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2014, 02:37:54 pm »
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1: I am very drawn to Faery Paganism, but I have never been contacted by a fae or interacted with them *that I know of* but I have always been drawn to the concept of Faeries and I want to explore this further. I am reading Faery Wiccan by Kisma Stepanich, and I am really intrigued by the concepts she introduces. Are there any other books or guides or groups I should look into?


Try taking a look at this tumblr, I think it might be helpful.

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2: I want to incorporate my ancestors into my practice, and I have a tentative altar begun to be set up in my living room. So far I have a set of family photos of my immediate family that belonged to my late Oma, a pressed Edelweiss flower of my Oma's, and a cross stitch Faery piece that my mother made me.  I feel like it should include more, but I am unsure what else to include.  


As for ancestor worshiping, it's completely up to you. You should put on your altar what feels right to you, or what you think would honour your ancestors. Did your Oma have a hobby? What was her favourite colour? Maybe try to put something that represents personal preferences like these, or something that you think they would like.

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3: Even though I am not Wiccan, I feel very drawn to the concept of a Book of Shadows/Grimoire.  Does anyone else keep one, and what do they call it? I have been tenatively calling mine a Spirit Journal, but it doesn't feel entirely accurate, as I have been noting apothecarium things in there, and it isn't entirely spirit related.

 
I don't think that a Grimoire is only for Wiccans.. It's a book where you write your spells and stuff like that, right? So it's not necesserily religious, unless you practise religious witchcraft, which is an other thing. I believe that if you just want a book where you could write about your spiritual path in general, the name you chose is pretty fine. I don't have one for myself, but I'm planning to get one in the near future.

I don't know if I helped at all, but I'm clueless about faeries, so I couldn't provide you with more information, sorry! Hopefully someone else will be more helpful. :)
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Re: A few questions on issues I am pondering
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2014, 02:57:03 pm »
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Try taking a look at this tumblr, I think it might be helpful.



As for ancestor worshiping, it's completely up to you. You should put on your altar what feels right to you, or what you think would honour your ancestors. Did your Oma have a hobby? What was her favourite colour? Maybe try to put something that represents personal preferences like these, or something that you think they would like.


 
I don't think that a Grimoire is only for Wiccans.. It's a book where you write your spells and stuff like that, right? So it's not necesserily religious, unless you practise religious witchcraft, which is an other thing. I believe that if you just want a book where you could write about your spiritual path in general, the name you chose is pretty fine. I don't have one for myself, but I'm planning to get one in the near future.

I don't know if I helped at all, but I'm clueless about faeries, so I couldn't provide you with more information, sorry! Hopefully someone else will be more helpful. :)

 

The tumblr is very helpful, thank you!!  I am checking it out, and definitely going to try some of those concepts/methods :)  I don't practice magical spells as of yet, but it isn't something I am opposed to exploring in my practice. I am basically just following where my intuition leads me, and trying to figure it out that way.

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Re: A few questions on issues I am pondering
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2014, 03:05:33 pm »
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1: I am very drawn to Faery Paganism, but I have never been contacted by a fae or interacted with them *that I know of* but I have always been drawn to the concept of Faeries and I want to explore this further. I am reading Faery Wiccan by Kisma Stepanich, and I am really intrigued by the concepts she introduces. Are there any other books or guides or groups I should look into?


You should know that Kisma Stepanich has an extremely problematic reputation: the blog post over here outlines the major issues and has links to some further material. (I don't know the blogger at all, I think, I just went looking for something that outlined the issues I know about in one place.)

The other thing that might help is that there's a bunch of different people doing some *widely* different things with things that identify as Faery. If you could talk about what your particular interests are a bit more, people might be able to make more specifically useful recommendations.
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Re: A few questions on issues I am pondering
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2014, 03:12:22 pm »
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I'll try to group my thoughts into separate categories, so I don't overwhelm you with my questions!

 
1. I don't know much about Faery Wicca, sorry that I can't be more helpful there!

2. Some ideas for ancestor representations - an item related to a career one of your ancestors pursued, pictures of the places your ancestors originated, pictures of tombstones and the places they are buried (might seem morbid to some, but their final resting place or 'mound' is important to my spirituality).

3. I am not Wiccan, but I do keep a couple of books related to my religion.  One is a book of prayers, important religious information, and observations of the natural world; I call it my 'red book' because it is red ;).  The other is more of a spiritual journal where I write down whatever I feel compelled to write, it doesn't really have a name since I'm not usually asking family members if they've seen it around :P
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Re: A few questions on issues I am pondering
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2014, 03:17:12 pm »
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You should know that Kisma Stepanich has an extremely problematic reputation: the blog post over here outlines the major issues and has links to some further material. (I don't know the blogger at all, I think, I just went looking for something that outlined the issues I know about in one place.)

The other thing that might help is that there's a bunch of different people doing some *widely* different things with things that identify as Faery. If you could talk about what your particular interests are a bit more, people might be able to make more specifically useful recommendations.

 
Wow, thank you for the link Jenett.  As Morgan (author of the blog) said, since this happened relatively long ago I had never heard about it.  Good to know another book to advise wary reading of.
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Re: A few questions on issues I am pondering
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2014, 04:56:10 pm »
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2: I want to incorporate my ancestors into my practice, and I have a tentative altar begun to be set up in my living room. So far I have a set of family photos of my immediate family that belonged to my late Oma, a pressed Edelweiss flower of my Oma's, and a cross stitch Faery piece that my mother made me.  I feel like it should include more, but I am unsure what else to include.


I'm very much a beginner still, but I can share what I do in case you find it useful.  Ancestors are very important to me and my practice, and I recently set up an ancestral shrine.  It seems a bit similar to yours regarding having photos and personal items.  I have a few important photos (some newer, some quite old), artifacts from my grandmother, grandfather, and father, and it is set up on an old secretary desk from my grandfather's house.  I also arranged 4 bird feathers around a candle.  Birdwatching is something that I shared with my grandfather many times, and feeding the birds is important in our family.  I light the candle on specific days in honor of specific ancestors.  Another idea is an LED candle that can always be lit.  I also have a cup where I pour a daily water offering.

Perhaps you have other ancestral artifacts you can include, or items that remind you of a specific ancestor you would like to honor.  For example, if you shared particular interests or experiences with your Oma, you could place an item that celebrates this even if it didn't specifically belong to her (I did this with the bird feathers for my grandpa).

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3: Even though I am not Wiccan, I feel very drawn to the concept of a Book of Shadows/Grimoire.  Does anyone else keep one, and what do they call it?


I know very little about Wicca or Books of Shadows, but I am keeping a journal.  This was encouraged in a Druidry book I am reading that includes practical/spiritual exercises at the end of each chapter.  I journal my progress through the exercises as suggested, but also journal other tasks I'm working through and ideas I have for my practice.  For example, I keep notes for tweaking the rituals I come across in books to adapt to my personal path.

If you find keeping something like a Book of Shadows or Grimoire is helpful to your path, then I think that is a good thing, regardless of what your decide to finally call your journal. :)
 
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pictures of tombstones and the places they are buried (might seem morbid to some, but their final resting place or 'mound' is important to my spirituality).

 
What a wonderful idea...I spent a lot of bonding time with my grandparents when I was young, learning my ancestors' names and taking care of their plots in the cemeteries with them, and have had a lot of meaningful time since visiting more ancestors for genealogy and having some chats with my beloved dead.  I'm so glad you brought this up, I may be adding such photos to my ancestral shrine...

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Re: A few questions on issues I am pondering
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2014, 05:08:25 pm »
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What a wonderful idea...I spent a lot of bonding time with my grandparents when I was young, learning my ancestors' names and taking care of their plots in the cemeteries with them, and have had a lot of meaningful time since visiting more ancestors for genealogy and having some chats with my beloved dead.  I'm so glad you brought this up, I may be adding such photos to my ancestral shrine...

 
Glad to help :).  My grandmother also took me to her ancestor's plots a few times a year to tell stories and leave flowers.  For many ancestors, its the only 'image' I have of them.
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Re: A few questions on issues I am pondering
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2014, 05:22:54 pm »
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1: I am very drawn to Faery Paganism, but I have never been contacted by a fae or interacted with them *that I know of* but I have always been drawn to the concept of Faeries and I want to explore this further. I am reading Faery Wiccan by Kisma Stepanich, and I am really intrigued by the concepts she introduces. Are there any other books or guides or groups I should look into?

For a different approach, have a look at John Michael Greer's "Monsters", which devotes a chapter to faeries. I should say that "monster" is being used in the original Latin sense of "manifestation", not in the modern sense. Greer remarks that dealing with fays "risks serious dangers" but that "if they are treated with respect and honesty they have powerful blessings to offer." A bit like humans, then!
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« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2014, 09:14:43 pm »
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You should know that Kisma Stepanich has an extremely problematic reputation: the blog post over here outlines the major issues and has links to some further material. (I don't know the blogger at all, I think, I just went looking for something that outlined the issues I know about in one place.)

The other thing that might help is that there's a bunch of different people doing some *widely* different things with things that identify as Faery. If you could talk about what your particular interests are a bit more, people might be able to make more specifically useful recommendations.

 
I have been told that about Stepanich, and I have only read the first chapter so far.  

I think I am still struggling to figure out what I am most interested in. I know I want to call upon them for help and as a deity (are they considered a deity?).  I am also deeply influenced by the apothecary/herbal arts and trying to find a balance between nature and modern life.

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Re: A few questions on issues I am pondering
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For a different approach, have a look at John Michael Greer's "Monsters", which devotes a chapter to faeries. I should say that "monster" is being used in the original Latin sense of "manifestation", not in the modern sense. Greer remarks that dealing with fays "risks serious dangers" but that "if they are treated with respect and honesty they have powerful blessings to offer." A bit like humans, then!

 
And then he says they might be aliens.

(I actually really like that book.)

To the OP... If you're going to work with faeries, read as much relevant mythology and folklore as you can 'cause they can be pretty dangerous.  The Fairy Faith in Celtic Countries by W.Y. Evans-Wentz is an oldie, but good nonetheless. (I think you can read it for free on SacredTexts too.)  For less dense reading, I do still enjoy Froud's stuff. His books are lavishly illustrated but do contain actual stories - Faeries has the most info in it, I think... if my sister were home I'd ask her, she owns all those books.

But yeah, read up on the nature of the fae first and foremost.

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Re: A few questions on issues I am pondering
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2014, 02:12:30 pm »
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The tumblr is very helpful, thank you!!  I am checking it out, and definitely going to try some of those concepts/methods :)  I don't practice magical spells as of yet, but it isn't something I am opposed to exploring in my practice. I am basically just following where my intuition leads me, and trying to figure it out that way.

 
I'd recommend against that Tumblr, like...a LOT. One - most of the information she presents is plagiarized or stolen from other sources she never cites. Two - a lot of her methods are almost guaranteed to get faeries pissed off at you. And three - she doesn't have consistent info. She doesn't actually research so she doesn't know when she's spouting just flat-out wrong info. (That blogger says she's a faery expert...but doesn't know what a Red Cap is.) There are way better other resources out there. I cannot recommend against tumblr for faery-info enough. Don't go there, because you'll have to unlearn most of what you've learned.

I second Mama Fortuna's recs of the Fairy Faith in Celtic Countries and Brian Froud's faery books.

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Re: A few questions on issues I am pondering
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2014, 09:45:20 pm »
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And then he says they might be aliens.

(I actually really like that book.)

To the OP... If you're going to work with faeries, read as much relevant mythology and folklore as you can 'cause they can be pretty dangerous.  The Fairy Faith in Celtic Countries by W.Y. Evans-Wentz is an oldie, but good nonetheless. (I think you can read it for free on SacredTexts too.)  For less dense reading, I do still enjoy Froud's stuff. His books are lavishly illustrated but do contain actual stories - Faeries has the most info in it, I think... if my sister were home I'd ask her, she owns all those books.

But yeah, read up on the nature of the fae first and foremost.

 


I'm also going to second ainellewellyn about that tumblr. There are quite a number of things she'll tell you that people who have relationships with the fae will tell you to not do whatsoever, else you invite mischief in the true sense of the word into your dwelling space and life.
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