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Can I ask about a dream I had?
« on: August 12, 2012, 07:31:08 pm »
Hi all. First-time poster - I actually found this forum earlier this morning when googling for a place that I could ask this. I'm pretty new to the whole forum thing. I was hoping that I could ask you all about my dream - not to interpret it, but to explain the precedent for it. I'm a big Norse mythology buff, but I'd hardly call myself a "big" pagan; I'm definitely more of a back-seat polytheist, so to speak. I know that it sounds arrogant and fancy, but I'm honestly more interested in playing violin than in the gods. Well, until last night's dream.

So, last night I had a dream about two deities killing some kind of lesser spirit. The dream started out with me going to uni on the bus, and it had its usual "this is a dream, so things are going to be weird" anomalies. When I got off the bus, I wasn't in the suburb my uni is located in, though - I was on the edge of some iced-over lake (makes sense, since it's winter here).

Thor, of all beings, was standing out on the lake, and seemed to be looking for something. (And Mjölnir was just enormous compared to what I've always imagined.) After some time, another god appeared, though I didn't see how. I didn't recognize this one (well, come on, there was no giant hammer to tip me off or anything!), but I distinctly remember his appearance - extremely narrow shoulders, very long chestnut-auburn hair, the same height as Thor , carried a sword of some description (I'm no weapons buff). I also got a strong sense of weather phenomena association from him, so I'm thinking perhaps it was Freyr, but that doesn't seem accurate. I guess I'd expect a fertility god to have a "different" appearance.

A bunch of stuff happened, to which I was a spectator, including them chasing around some lesser spirit that had angered them due to something or other. The rest of the dream isn't really relevant to my questions, so to sum it up: "god stuff happened". :p

Okay, so I know that one of the deities was Thor - Mjölnir aside, he screamed it all over. I don't know who the other guy was, but I still got Norse-y vibes, and I got weather phenomena vibes. Thor and the other guy were a bit argumentative, but nothing extreme, and they cooperated overall. I was wondering what the precedent is for dreaming about deities, and I was wondering if you could help me uncover the identify of the mystery god - I'm using my google-fu at full strength, but I'm not getting far. ...Heck, I'm okay with anything at all that you have to say about dreams. I am all ears.

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Re: Can I ask about a dream I had?
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2012, 09:10:54 pm »
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Hi all. First-time poster - I actually found this forum earlier this morning when googling for a place that I could ask this. I'm pretty new to the whole forum thing. I was hoping that I could ask you all about my dream - not to interpret it, but to explain the precedent for it. I'm a big Norse mythology buff, but I'd hardly call myself a "big" pagan; I'm definitely more of a back-seat polytheist, so to speak. I know that it sounds arrogant and fancy, but I'm honestly more interested in playing violin than in the gods. Well, until last night's dream.

So, last night I had a dream about two deities killing some kind of lesser spirit. The dream started out with me going to uni on the bus, and it had its usual "this is a dream, so things are going to be weird" anomalies. When I got off the bus, I wasn't in the suburb my uni is located in, though - I was on the edge of some iced-over lake (makes sense, since it's winter here).

Thor, of all beings, was standing out on the lake, and seemed to be looking for something. (And Mjölnir was just enormous compared to what I've always imagined.) After some time, another god appeared, though I didn't see how. I didn't recognize this one (well, come on, there was no giant hammer to tip me off or anything!), but I distinctly remember his appearance - extremely narrow shoulders, very long chestnut-auburn hair, the same height as Thor , carried a sword of some description (I'm no weapons buff). I also got a strong sense of weather phenomena association from him, so I'm thinking perhaps it was Freyr, but that doesn't seem accurate. I guess I'd expect a fertility god to have a "different" appearance.

A bunch of stuff happened, to which I was a spectator, including them chasing around some lesser spirit that had angered them due to something or other. The rest of the dream isn't really relevant to my questions, so to sum it up: "god stuff happened". :p

Okay, so I know that one of the deities was Thor - Mjölnir aside, he screamed it all over. I don't know who the other guy was, but I still got Norse-y vibes, and I got weather phenomena vibes. Thor and the other guy were a bit argumentative, but nothing extreme, and they cooperated overall. I was wondering what the precedent is for dreaming about deities, and I was wondering if you could help me uncover the identify of the mystery god - I'm using my google-fu at full strength, but I'm not getting far. ...Heck, I'm okay with anything at all that you have to say about dreams. I am all ears.

Welcome to the forum! I'm a big fan of strange dreams, but I will start by saying that sometimes weird dreams are just weird and nothing more. Now that the important disclaimer is out of the way, do you remember what you were doing before bed? Were you reading about gods or watching something or thinking about religion or spirituality in any way? Sometimes our before bed thoughts (even up to the start of the day or even earlier in the week) can affect our dreams because our subconscious is potentially working things out. I have had dreams because something was bothering me earlier in the day or week. The other potential is that these gods might have something to say to you, although I can't profess to be sure about that. Unfortunately I don't know very much about the Norse pantheon, so I can't help you identify the mystery god.

Also, you'd be surprised at what's relevant in dreams. Let me ask you this, do you normally have dreams of this magnitude or with unusual characters? How clear or vivid are your dreams normally? How was this dream different than other dreams, other than there were gods in it?
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Re: Can I ask about a dream I had?
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2012, 09:19:13 pm »
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Welcome to the forum!


Thank you!

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Now that the important disclaimer is out of the way, do you remember what you were doing before bed? Were you reading about gods or watching something or thinking about religion or spirituality in any way? Sometimes our before bed thoughts (even up to the start of the day or even earlier in the week) can affect our dreams because our subconscious is potentially working things out.


I was watching Archer before bed. I certainly wasn't doing anything out of the ordinary and mythology / lore was far from my mind. I haven't given that sort of thing any thought at all over the course of the past week. Though I'll bet that there was so much ice around because I hate the cold. :p

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Also, you'd be surprised at what's relevant in dreams. Let me ask you this, do you normally have dreams of this magnitude or with unusual characters? How clear or vivid are your dreams normally? How was this dream different than other dreams, other than there were gods in it?


What do you mean by "magnitude"?

My dreams never have unusual characters - I always dream about people who I know and interact with frequently. My dreams tend to be quite clear, but I usually forget them after an hour or so of being awake. The primary difference between this dream and other typical dreams was that I was a spectator - I normally have some kind of central role in my own dreams, but my role in this dream was primarily as a spectator of the events.

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Re: Can I ask about a dream I had?
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2012, 09:32:40 pm »
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Hi all. First-time poster - I actually found this forum earlier this morning when googling for a place that I could ask this. I'm pretty new to the whole forum thing. I was hoping that I could ask you all about my dream - not to interpret it, but to explain the precedent for it.


Meaningful dreams are pretty common in the lore.

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Okay, so I know that one of the deities was Thor - Mjölnir aside, he screamed it all over. I don't know who the other guy was, but I still got Norse-y vibes, and I got weather phenomena vibes. Thor and the other guy were a bit argumentative, but nothing extreme, and they cooperated overall. I was wondering what the precedent is for dreaming about deities, and I was wondering if you could help me uncover the identify of the mystery god - I'm using my google-fu at full strength, but I'm not getting far. ...Heck, I'm okay with anything at all that you have to say about dreams. I am all ears.


It probably wouldn't be Freyr since he gave his sword away. Tyr, maybe, if he had one hand. Possibly Saxnot.

I wanted to say Vidar, who is second in strength only to Thor. But Vidar is the silent god and you said they argued.

Might not have even been a god. Could have been an ancestor. *shrug*
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Re: Can I ask about a dream I had?
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2012, 09:33:41 pm »
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I was watching Archer before bed. I certainly wasn't doing anything out of the ordinary and mythology / lore was far from my mind. I haven't given that sort of thing any thought at all over the course of the past week. Though I'll bet that there was so much ice around because I hate the cold. :p


I don't like any extreme temperature, but I prefer being cold over hot lol did the dream have any resemblance to anything you may have seen on tv?


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What do you mean by "magnitude"?

My dreams never have unusual characters - I always dream about people who I know and interact with frequently. My dreams tend to be quite clear, but I usually forget them after an hour or so of being awake. The primary difference between this dream and other typical dreams was that I was a spectator - I normally have some kind of central role in my own dreams, but my role in this dream was primarily as a spectator of the events.


hmm, how to explain what I mean by magnitude. Well, I'll use some of my dreams as examples. I typically have wacky dreams, things that are silly or semi-serious that have varying degrees of connection to reality. Things like giant shape-changing trains and epic adventures across the city, a flying brick whale (that's everyone's favorite XD), adventures in high school that don't exactly match reality or the laws of physics, semi serious ones about resolving conflicts or conversations or battles and such. Things that could inspire a work of fiction ya know? But occasionally I have much different dreams.

For instance, I had a dream where, in part of it, I was staring at the moon and it was Anpu (see Anubis, the god I worship) and I asked Him to come closer and the moon actually came closer. Then I felt power coursing through me and I got lifted in the air and put back down. That dream is much different than the flying brick whale and is of a different magnitude. The flying brick whale dream was caused by eating a certain type of sweet bread before bed, I had the dream about Anpu as the moon after having a very hard week and needing to feel His presence. Two different magnitudes of seriousness, of vividness, of relation to reality between these dreams.

I normally have relatively vivid dreams, but they're not always vivid, or it's only part of the dream that is vivid. And by vivid, I mean visually clear. I also tend to dream in third person, like watching a movie. Occasionally I realize that I'm in a dream, that usually happens with more serious dreams, dreaming in first person also is a sign of something more serious/important, and physical sensations other than vision and auditory tip me off that I should be paying attention. Stuff like that.
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Re: Can I ask about a dream I had?
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2012, 09:40:14 pm »
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Meaningful dreams are pretty common in the lore.


Thanks for providing a precedent.

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It probably wouldn't be Freyr since he gave his sword away. Tyr, maybe, if he had one hand. Possibly Saxnot.

I wanted to say Vidar, who is second in strength only to Thor. But Vidar is the silent god and you said they argued.


I agree regarding Freyr and Vidar. (Though if they hadn't argued, Vidar would make a tonne of sense.) The god had both hands, so it definitely wasn't Týr. (I dunno, maybe regenerative limbs are a thing now!) I don't know anything much about Saxnot, but I've heard that it's another name for Freyr?

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Might not have even been a god. Could have been an ancestor. *shrug*


Indeed! I hadn't considered that. He "felt" like a god so I assumed that he was one.

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Re: Can I ask about a dream I had?
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2012, 09:43:30 pm »
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I don't like any extreme temperature, but I prefer being cold over hot lol did the dream have any resemblance to anything you may have seen on tv?


How can you prefer being cold? :(

The dream had no resemblance to anything that I saw on tv last night. It was an iced-over lake in a my-worst-nightmare kind of landscape. So much ice and snow. Blergh.

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hmm, how to explain what I mean by magnitude.

 
Ah! Thanks for clarifying. In that case, I don't generally have dreams of any kind of magnitude. I'd describe most of my dreams as "a bunch of random crap in which my brain plays funny-buggers with what happened the day before". This was a very, very unusual sort of dream for me.

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« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2012, 09:49:44 pm »
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How can you prefer being cold? :(

The dream had no resemblance to anything that I saw on tv last night. It was an iced-over lake in a my-worst-nightmare kind of landscape. So much ice and snow. Blergh.


 
Ah! Thanks for clarifying. In that case, I don't generally have dreams of any kind of magnitude. I'd describe most of my dreams as "a bunch of random crap in which my brain plays funny-buggers with what happened the day before". This was a very, very unusual sort of dream for me.


lol well as far as prefering cold, it has to do with the fact that I get sick in heat and being sweaty and sticky makes me itch and I practically convulse with the need to shower and feel clean as opposed to yucky and grimy. Winter tends to give me more severe, but shorter term asthma attacks, while summer contributes to lower intensity, but harder to manage and more uncomfortable asthma problems. And you can put more clothes or blankets on if you're cold, as an acquaintance said "yeah I can't just decide to take off my skin if I'm naked and still sweating".

well, if this dream is of a type that is highly unusual, I and probably most others would say that you could and perhaps should pay more attention to it. However, I couldn't give you the reason why this dream should happen now with seemingly no context to go off of to figure out what's going on. Without knowing you better none of us could really expound on potential meaning. You'd have to break it down and decide what each element means for you.
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Re: Can I ask about a dream I had?
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2012, 10:05:30 pm »
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"yeah I can't just decide to take off my skin if I'm naked and still sweating".


Hah! That's brilliant!

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well, if this dream is of a type that is highly unusual, I and probably most others would say that you could and perhaps should pay more attention to it. However, I couldn't give you the reason why this dream should happen now with seemingly no context to go off of to figure out what's going on. Without knowing you better none of us could really expound on potential meaning. You'd have to break it down and decide what each element means for you.


Thanks for your opinion - you've been very helpful. I agree that nobody can really discuss the potential meaning of it - after all, at the end of the day, it was me who fell asleep! I'm more interested in the precedent for eavesdropping on gods in your dreams, the potential for this to be more than my subconscious just going "lol" and prodding me a few times, and in discovering the identity of the mystery god.

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« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2012, 10:16:43 pm »
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(Though if they hadn't argued, Vidar would make a tonne of sense.)

 
Is there a particular reason as to why Vidar is called "the silent god"? Is this 100% meant to be a literal interpretation?

I only ask because in some traditions or cultures, "to be silent" is not necessarily a literal thing, but rather meant to convey keeping silent on mysteries, or holding your counsel until the proper time.
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« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2012, 10:17:34 pm »
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Thanks for your opinion - you've been very helpful. I agree that nobody can really discuss the potential meaning of it - after all, at the end of the day, it was me who fell asleep! I'm more interested in the precedent for eavesdropping on gods in your dreams, the potential for this to be more than my subconscious just going "lol" and prodding me a few times, and in discovering the identity of the mystery god.


Well, I know what it's like for the subconscious to be like "yeah I'm just messin with ya". I'm not sure of a precedent for eavesdropping on gods in dreams. Personally I've never done it and I've never seen a god in my dreams either. Usually just a mention or a feeling that they're there, like with Anpu. He himself wasn't there, but He was the moon and I knew it was Him, both because I was talking specifically to Him and got an answer, but also the next day I was aware of His presence very strongly. But, I think analyzing the dream would help you figure out what its purpose is and may even give more of a clue to who the mystery god was. And like Juniperberry said, it may not even be a god. You'll have to do some research on those details you saw.
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« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2012, 10:21:00 pm »
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Is there a particular reason as to why Vidar is called "the silent god"? Is this 100% meant to be a literal interpretation?

I only ask because in some traditions or cultures, "to be silent" is not necessarily a literal thing, but rather meant to convey keeping silent on mysteries, or holding your counsel until the proper time.


My understanding of it has always been a literal interpretation of his silence, but if memory serves, his silence is never specifically explained.

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« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2012, 10:46:02 pm »
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Is there a particular reason as to why Vidar is called "the silent god"? Is this 100% meant to be a literal interpretation?

I only ask because in some traditions or cultures, "to be silent" is not necessarily a literal thing, but rather meant to convey keeping silent on mysteries, or holding your counsel until the proper time.

It's thought to be a ritual silence. In much the same way that a youth couldn't clip his beard until he had completed his first kill, Vidar cannot speak until he avenges Odin.

Nuggler, it might have also been a local god instead of one of the great gods.You should look up local folklore and legends.
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« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2012, 12:10:42 am »
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Nuggler, it might have also been a local god instead of one of the great gods.You should look up local folklore and legends.

 
Thanks for the suggestion!

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