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Author Topic: General/Non-Specific: A sign?  (Read 2542 times)

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Re: A sign?
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2020, 11:17:37 am »
the polytheism, magic, nature reverence, counter-Abrahamic thing was Wicca.

Not only Wicca.

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Re: A sign?
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2020, 11:38:26 am »
Not only Wicca.
Ok, so what other paths are polytheism, magic, nature reverence, and counter-Abrahamic?

I simply do not know any to be honest.  :)

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Re: A sign?
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2020, 11:55:11 am »
Ok, so what other paths are polytheism, magic, nature reverence, and counter-Abrahamic?

It depends on what you mean by counter-Abrahamic.

But there are many other strands of religious witchcraft that are not Wicca.

And while most of the reconstructionist religions are not nature-reverent the way people often mean when they use that phrase, most of them include a recognition and inclusion of the natural cycles (as well polytheism, and magic).
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Re: A sign?
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2020, 12:31:16 pm »
It depends on what you mean by counter-Abrahamic.

But there are many other strands of religious witchcraft that are not Wicca.

And while most of the reconstructionist religions are not nature-reverent the way people often mean when they use that phrase, most of them include a recognition and inclusion of the natural cycles (as well polytheism, and magic).
I see.

Well to be honest i did not know many other strands of religious witchcraft that are not Wicca.
I only kew there are many other strands of NON_religious witchcraft.  :)

And I know almodt nothing about the natural cycles.
(My teacher either did not think they were relevant, or she never got around to that part.  8) )

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Re: A sign?
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2020, 02:28:29 pm »
Interesting, i thought Paganism was more of an umbrella term, and that the polytheism, magic, nature reverence, counter-Abrahamic thing was Wicca.  8)
It is an umbrella term with certain guidelines. The abrahamic rejection is what bothers me. ??? Abrahamics think they are the only true religion and they reject Pagans, and Pagans mimic them by rejecting them too. :-\

As for Wicca, it is quite popular, I think. I don't know much about Wicca yet. But as little as I know so far, they are ok! :)
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Re: A sign?
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2020, 02:58:00 pm »
It is an umbrella term with certain guidelines. The abrahamic rejection is what bothers me. ??? Abrahamics think they are the only true religion and they reject Pagans, and Pagans mimic them by rejecting them too. :-\

As for Wicca, it is quite popular, I think. I don't know much about Wicca yet. But as little as I know so far, they are ok! :)
I think most religions think they are the only only true religion, they are just not so open about it.  ;)

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Re: A sign?
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2020, 07:15:59 pm »
I think most religions think they are the only only true religion, they are just not so open about it.  ;)

Eh, that's a historical anamoly.

It's perfectly normal for the other people to have other religions, after all; that is one of the ways that one can tell they're other people.
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Re: A sign?
« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2020, 12:03:59 am »
It is an umbrella term with certain guidelines. The abrahamic rejection is what bothers me. ??? Abrahamics think they are the only true religion and they reject Pagans, and Pagans mimic them by rejecting them too. :-\

As for Wicca, it is quite popular, I think. I don't know much about Wicca yet. But as little as I know so far, they are ok! :)
I wouldn't describe paganism in general as "abrahamic rejection" exactly. Most of the people I know are fine with Christians, Jews, and Muslims. It's just that most pagans don't subscribe to those religions. That's part of what makes us pagans.

The other part is self identifying as pagan.

Many people over the years have tried to come up with a more specific definition of pagan. But it doesn't work. Every additional descriptor has the effect of excluding people who identify as pagan.

F'ex, if you say "all pagans revere nature", you're excluding everyone whose spiritual path doesn't include nature reverence (like me), but who identify as pagan.

So, TC decided a long time ago to use the definition I gave earlier. It's the best we've found that includes everyone who seems to want to be here under our umbrella.

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Re: A sign?
« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2020, 03:30:19 am »


On the other hand, ''pagan'' is Latin word for villager, the Christians used as an insult.

Not just the Christians. "Pagan" was used as an epithet by urban Romans a century and more before the time of Christ, in much the same way we Americans might call someone a "bumpkin" or a "hick".

When the Empire turned to Christianity during and after the time of Constantine it was the rural Romans who were most likely to hold on to the old ways. It was then that the term acquired its present religious connotation.

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Re: A sign?
« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2020, 01:23:01 pm »
Eh, that's a historical anamoly.

It's perfectly normal for the other people to have other religions, after all; that is one of the ways that one can tell they're other people.
So its just the Abrahamics that believe they are the one true faith?  ::)

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Re: A sign?
« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2020, 03:55:25 pm »
So its just the Abrahamics that believe they are the one true faith?  ::)

LOL There are enough branches and splinter groups off of the Abrahamics that I wouldn't presume too much for them either ;)

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Re: A sign?
« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2020, 03:57:30 pm »
So its just the Abrahamics that believe they are the one true faith?  ::)

Given that the Abrahamic religions include Judaism, not even them.
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Re: A sign?
« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2020, 12:51:56 pm »
LOL There are enough branches and splinter groups off of the Abrahamics that I wouldn't presume too much for them either ;)
And I am pretty sure some Pagans think they are the one true faith as well.   8)
Given that the Abrahamic religions include Judaism, not even them.
Maybe....  ;)

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