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Re: you're gonna show up to a ritual in that? (dressing up during spells)
« Reply #60 on: July 25, 2014, 11:55:04 am »
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You said "pagans shouldn't because".  makes just as much sense to apply that to knitting as it does to clothing.

And .. I'm not "over-emotional" about it.  My religion specifically requires NOT throwing people under the bus because of an attempt to look "safe".  So your attempt to do so goes against my religious beliefs.  Should I ignore that because you didn't REALLY mean that, maybe?  Or maybe you're just trying to look "safe" here, too, and have both sides?

Because really, it looks like you're trying to say "those people make ME look bad, but I'm trying to not look bad here in case you might BE those people .. so I'm hedging.  but they look bad.  Don't do it"

You start telling me how to behave to make YOU look safe, yeah, I'm gonna call you out on it.  Even if I fit the behavior anyway, you've no right to say it.  You don't like it - take a number, get in line.  My religion also says what is right is more important than getting along and being "nice".

But do go on with telling me how wrong I am and how clearly emotional I am about it, as though A) you can read my emotional state correctly, which I assure you you're not and B) that emotions are bad when someone is trying to erase difference for the sake of pseudo-safety.  Do go on.

Christ, dude. Chill out. You have blown my entire point clear out of the water. No use in telling you that though because now your feelings are hurt and you're standing your ground that you know exactly what I meant.

I'm bowing out of this discussion. Apparently thinking out loud is grounds for getting your head chewed off. Welcome to life: people have different opinions than you.

See you in other threads.
« Last Edit: July 25, 2014, 12:01:46 pm by BrighidsAura »

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Re: you're gonna show up to a ritual in that? (dressing up during spells)
« Reply #61 on: July 25, 2014, 12:14:18 pm »
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Christ, dude. Chill out. You have blown my entire point clear out of the water. No use in telling you that though because now your feelings are hurt and you're standing your ground that you know exactly what I meant.

I'm bowing out of this discussion. Apparently thinking out loud is grounds for getting your head chewed off. Welcome to life: people have different opinions than you.

See you in other threads.

 
Don't know what you mean.  Know what you said.

If you don't like the reactions to what you said, maybe you should think about that.  But really, not over-emotional.  Religiously required.

Also, discussion and debate.  Might want to figure out if that's what you're looking for in a forum - because we expect people to stand by their words.  Or, of course, change their opinion.  But in that case, CHANGE it - not try to have two at the same time with a handwave.

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Re: you're gonna show up to a ritual in that? (dressing up during spells)
« Reply #62 on: July 25, 2014, 12:19:46 pm »
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Don't know what you mean.  Know what you said.

If you don't like the reactions to what you said, maybe you should think about that.  But really, not over-emotional.  Religiously required.

Also, discussion and debate.  Might want to figure out if that's what you're looking for in a forum - because we expect people to stand by their words.  Or, of course, change their opinion.  But in that case, CHANGE it - not try to have two at the same time with a handwave.

HeartShadow, this is actually humorous coming from someone who just got pisssed off over a different opinion.   I'm not a novice when it comes to debating and I'm not new to forums. Surprisingly, I'm not new to people not liking some things I say. Just because YOU got upset over something I said doesn't mean I'm going to pack up and leave the forums. Sorry to disappoint you.

So ill be seeing you around.

So please stop acting like not standing on solid opinions on something that I really don't care about is such a sin. When I care about something,  I'll stick to my opinion. However, THIS is not a topic I care enough about to lay down a firm opinion and stick to it. I opened my posts saying I go both ways on this topic.
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Re: you're gonna show up to a ritual in that? (dressing up during spells)
« Reply #63 on: July 25, 2014, 12:29:06 pm »
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Why do you keep telling me I'm pissed off?  I'm pretty sure if I was, I'd notice.  But thanks for trying to dictate my emotional state, I needed someone to practice Silencing Techniques 101 on me, really.  No, wait, I didn't.

Here's a thought, try explaining why I'm wrong, instead of dictating my emotional state.

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Re: you're gonna show up to a ritual in that? (dressing up during spells)
« Reply #64 on: July 25, 2014, 12:32:21 pm »
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HeartShadow, this is actually humorous coming from someone who just got pisssed off over a different opinion.   I'm not a novice when it comes to debating and I'm not new to forums. Surprisingly, I'm not new to people not liking some things I say. Just because YOU got upset over something I said doesn't mean I'm going to pack up and leave the forums. Sorry to disappoint you.

So ill be seeing you around.

So please stop acting like not standing on solid opinions on something that I really don't care about is such a sin. When I care about something,  I'll stick to my opinion. However, THIS is not a topic I care enough about to lay down a firm opinion and stick to it. I opened my posts saying I go both ways on this topic.

 
For an opinion you don't care about you sure are using a lot of time and effort defending it
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Re: you're gonna show up to a ritual in that? (dressing up during spells)
« Reply #65 on: July 25, 2014, 12:43:50 pm »
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HeartShadow, this is actually humorous coming from someone who just got pisssed off over a different opinion.   I'm not a novice when it comes to debating and I'm not new to forums. Surprisingly, I'm not new to people not liking some things I say. Just because YOU got upset over something I said doesn't mean I'm going to pack up and leave the forums. Sorry to disappoint you.

So ill be seeing you around.

So please stop acting like not standing on solid opinions on something that I really don't care about is such a sin. When I care about something,  I'll stick to my opinion. However, THIS is not a topic I care enough about to lay down a firm opinion and stick to it. I opened my posts saying I go both ways on this topic.
Please stop assuming that just because someone has a problem with your opinion means they are upset. There is nothing inherently emotional about pointing out that it is not cool to police other people's clothing choices in the name of respectability.

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Re: you're gonna show up to a ritual in that? (dressing up during spells)
« Reply #66 on: July 25, 2014, 12:49:04 pm »
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Please stop assuming that just because someone has a problem with your opinion means they are upset. There is nothing inherently emotional about pointing out that it is not cool to police other people's clothing choices in the name of respectability.

 
Yes, you are right about that.

I apologize and now I'll be going to a different thread. See you all around.

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Re: you're gonna show up to a ritual in that? (dressing up during spells)
« Reply #67 on: July 25, 2014, 01:15:54 pm »
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HeartShadow, this is actually humorous coming from someone who just got pisssed off over a different opinion.   I'm not a novice when it comes to debating and I'm not new to forums. Surprisingly, I'm not new to people not liking some things I say. Just because YOU got upset over something I said doesn't mean I'm going to pack up and leave the forums. Sorry to disappoint you.

So ill be seeing you around.

So please stop acting like not standing on solid opinions on something that I really don't care about is such a sin. When I care about something,  I'll stick to my opinion. However, THIS is not a topic I care enough about to lay down a firm opinion and stick to it. I opened my posts saying I go both ways on this topic.

 
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Re: you're gonna show up to a ritual in that? (dressing up during spells)
« Reply #68 on: July 25, 2014, 04:16:39 pm »
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Re: you're gonna show up to a ritual in that? (dressing up during spells)
« Reply #69 on: July 25, 2014, 04:22:18 pm »
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.I'm bowing out of this discussion. Apparently thinking out loud is grounds for getting your head chewed off. Welcome to life: people have different opinions than you.

See you in other threads.

 
I'm almost certain I made this thread to discuss what people not to wear, not to invite a ridiculous debate like this. I want to keep talking about what people wear and why they like to wear it without value judgement being attached.

(p.s - when you state your 'opinion' in a way that shames/criticizes people for expressing themselves, you come off with an all-serving ego.  You can't blame people for getting upset after you said half of us make /you/ look bad.)
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Re: you're gonna show up to a ritual in that? (dressing up during spells)
« Reply #70 on: July 25, 2014, 06:10:38 pm »
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I'm almost certain I made this thread to discuss what people not to wear, not to invite a ridiculous debate like this. I want to keep talking about what people wear and why they like to wear it without value judgement being attached.

(p.s - when you state your 'opinion' in a way that shames/criticizes people for expressing themselves, you come off with an all-serving ego.  You can't blame people for getting upset after you said half of us make /you/ look bad.)

 
I believe I apologized. Frankly, the way it came off was not the way I had intended it to.

Let the conversation continue.

In ritual, I wear my street clothes.

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Re: you're gonna show up to a ritual in that? (dressing up during spells)
« Reply #71 on: July 25, 2014, 08:01:17 pm »
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So, my mind has been all over the place. If anybody has seen what I've been posting, I've jumped from spirit summoning to priestesthood (although, if you think about it, this can kind of go hand-in-hand with performing priestess-like duties).

Now, I want to talk about what kind of things a person can wear when they're performing their magick.For me, I think I want something that reminds me of the ocean - a symbol of where my energy is drawn and what I carry with me as I perform. Granted, I know you don't need anything fancy, but I'm really passionate about immersing myself into my practice, so I'd actually love to try and find more 'formal' wear, you know?

What kinds of things do you like to dress up in? How often? Do you feel closer to your practice when you do?

 
Well, at this point in my practice, I just dress in my every day clothing, though I would like to eventually incorporate more ritual wear for specific situations if I want to evoke a certain kind of feeling for the spell. Right now though, it's more important for me to do the magic instead of waiting until I have everything perfect because it gets me doing things. But I imagine as time goes on, things will be added, especially since I like shiny things. It's just very hard to find the right pieces due to lack of money and lack of knowing where to find said things.

I may also be very picky. Though I have found some lovely shimmery green nail polish that I can see myself wearing for magical ritual purposes some time in the future.

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Re: you're gonna show up to a ritual in that? (dressing up during spells)
« Reply #72 on: July 25, 2014, 08:05:15 pm »
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Well, at this point in my practice, I just dress in my every day clothing, though I would like to eventually incorporate more ritual wear for specific situations if I want to evoke a certain kind of feeling for the spell. Right now though, it's more important for me to do the magic instead of waiting until I have everything perfect because it gets me doing things. But I imagine as time goes on, things will be added, especially since I like shiny things. It's just very hard to find the right pieces due to lack of money and lack of knowing where to find said things.

I may also be very picky. Though I have found some lovely shimmery green nail polish that I can see myself wearing for magical ritual purposes some time in the future.

 
This is pretty much the mindset I had/need to have again, I get stuck trying to get things perfect.
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Re: you're gonna show up to a ritual in that? (dressing up during spells)
« Reply #73 on: July 25, 2014, 09:00:00 pm »
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Well, at this point in my practice, I just dress in my every day clothing,

 
For my daily practice I wear whatever I'm wearing that day. For my weekly ritual which I do in the evening, I wear clean pyjamas.

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Re: you're gonna show up to a ritual in that? (dressing up during spells)
« Reply #74 on: July 25, 2014, 10:24:28 pm »
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I believe I apologized. Frankly, the way it came off was not the way I had intended it to.

Let the conversation continue.

In ritual, I wear my street clothes.

 
I didn't see the apology, but thank you for that. I do appreciate it.

Like I said, it's mainly naked (because I do it on weekend mornings), but I'm thinking something that requires more time/concentration calls for something more formal - like, I want my clothes to reflect the thought I'm putting into it.
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