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Author Topic: Spirit/Entity Keeping. Is anyone else a keeper?  (Read 8281 times)

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Re: Spirit/Entity Keeping. Is anyone else a keeper?
« Reply #60 on: February 04, 2013, 11:12:21 am »
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...How would a simple human enslave a powerful Jinn or Faery?

 
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Re: Spirit/Entity Keeping. Is anyone else a keeper?
« Reply #61 on: February 04, 2013, 11:57:46 am »
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It seems that I am unable to find anyone that had knowledge about entities or spirit keeping. Most people automatically assume it is enslaving of supernatural beings. This is now enslavement. The question that I now have to those that think it is enslavement.. How would a simple human enslave a powerful Jinn or Faery?


Your grammar's getting worse.  The above makes even less sense than usual.

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Re: Spirit/Entity Keeping. Is anyone else a keeper?
« Reply #62 on: February 04, 2013, 01:43:13 pm »
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Your grammar's getting worse.  The above makes even less sense than usual.

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Re: Spirit/Entity Keeping. Is anyone else a keeper?
« Reply #63 on: February 04, 2013, 03:52:29 pm »
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Did it ever make sense?


Grammatically?  Occasionally.

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Re: Spirit/Entity Keeping. Is anyone else a keeper?
« Reply #64 on: February 04, 2013, 04:42:06 pm »
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It seems that I am unable to find anyone that had knowledge about entities or spirit keeping. Most people automatically assume it is enslaving of supernatural beings. This is now enslavement. The question that I now have to those that think it is enslavement.. How would a simple human enslave a powerful Jinn or Faery?

Also late to the party and had to read the whole thing. Because enslavement is the last thing I think of when I think of "keepers." What you are mentioning is to me summoning and entrapment.

I relate "keeper" to "guardian." That is my role. I am a spirit guardian, sometimes spirit keeper (along the lines of "Keeper of the Stars"). I do no enslaving, summoning, entrapment or other actions with ill intentions to the spirits..I set them free and to some, I'm a source of protection. And that is all I'll say on that subject.

I felt like adding my $.02 because your use of the word "keeper" completely shocked me. I also see spirits and entities as two different things.
« Last Edit: February 04, 2013, 04:44:09 pm by DancesWithHorses »
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Re: Spirit/Entity Keeping. Is anyone else a keeper?
« Reply #65 on: February 04, 2013, 04:48:44 pm »
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I also see spirits and entities as two different things.

 
Okay, I suspect you might actually have a chance of explaining this idea.

If entity in this case does not mean "a thing with a distinct, independent existence" and spirit does not mean "a noncorporeal being and/or a soul", what do they mean, and how did such definitions arise?
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Re: Spirit/Entity Keeping. Is anyone else a keeper?
« Reply #66 on: February 04, 2013, 05:28:00 pm »
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Okay, I suspect you might actually have a chance of explaining this idea.

If entity in this case does not mean "a thing with a distinct, independent existence" and spirit does not mean "a noncorporeal being and/or a soul", what do they mean, and how did such definitions arise?

Okay, again, just my personal thoughts... but here it goes.

An entity is to me a being with its own intentions. So I'd amend that to "a being with a distinct, independent existence." An entity is nothing to be messed with, as they have their own mind and are "stand alone."

Spirits are also beings but they are "attached" to something else (phyiscal, so a body, a tree, whatever). Hence the reference to souls. They are that "otherworldly-ness" attached to something. In the case of animals and humans, the spirit becomes a soul. Kind of more messy than entities because they can't live independent of each other. Whatever the spirit is attached to can't live without the spirit and the spirit can turn into an entity if left adrift without something to attach itself to. For example, a ghost. A ghost is a spirit that became an entity because it now exists separate of what it once once physically attached to and has its own intentions.

Entities can be attached to something but since they have either own intentions, the attachment isn't permanent and while whatever the spirit is attached to will accept the spirit and consider it part of itself, the entity is a foreign attachment and noticed.

I probably just confused everyone and myself, oops!
« Last Edit: February 04, 2013, 05:28:58 pm by DancesWithHorses »
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Re: Spirit/Entity Keeping. Is anyone else a keeper?
« Reply #67 on: February 04, 2013, 09:11:57 pm »
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Also late to the party and had to read the whole thing. Because enslavement is the last thing I think of when I think of "keepers." What you are mentioning is to me summoning and entrapment.

I relate "keeper" to "guardian." That is my role. I am a spirit guardian, sometimes spirit keeper (along the lines of "Keeper of the Stars"). I do no enslaving, summoning, entrapment or other actions with ill intentions to the spirits..I set them free and to some, I'm a source of protection. And that is all I'll say on that subject.

I felt like adding my $.02 because your use of the word "keeper" completely shocked me. I also see spirits and entities as two different things.


For you, what is the difference?  For me a spirit would be someone that has crossed over while an entity may be someone who may or may not know that they are dead but has not crossed over.+
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Re: Spirit/Entity Keeping. Is anyone else a keeper?
« Reply #68 on: February 04, 2013, 09:13:18 pm »
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For you, what is the difference?  For me a spirit would be someone that has crossed over while an entity may be someone who may or may not know that they are dead but has not crossed over.+

 
Sorry didn't read all ofthe post before I posted this.:ashamed:
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Re: Spirit/Entity Keeping. Is anyone else a keeper?
« Reply #69 on: February 04, 2013, 09:53:43 pm »
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Sorry didn't read all ofthe post before I posted this.:ashamed:

 
Totally okay. Did my post make sense? I like working with spirits, not so much entities. Or maybe I just haven't met any entities I actually wanted to meet. Spirits, nearly daily. They don't seem to think I should get a vacation ;).
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Re: Spirit/Entity Keeping. Is anyone else a keeper?
« Reply #70 on: February 04, 2013, 11:52:39 pm »
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Re: Spirit/Entity Keeping. Is anyone else a keeper?
« Reply #71 on: March 12, 2013, 08:01:05 pm »
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It seems that I am unable to find anyone that had knowledge about entities or spirit keeping. Most people automatically assume it is enslaving of supernatural beings. This is now enslavement. The question that I now have to those that think it is enslavement.. How would a simple human enslave a powerful Jinn or Faery?


Ok, I'm really sorry, but this has been covered with the slave trade, (and the house elves in Harry Potter) if something wants to be a slave (which is unlikely -except for the house elves in harry Potter) -still a slave. And I'm all with the bygones be bygones but as a descendant of slaves, I have to work really hard not to take offence here.
Also, you seem to know little of the fae (speaking about the courts, here, so I don't overlap on a bunch of things and it is less of an umbrella term), who are some of the few entities i know of who are so linked to the magical word that knowing their names virtually binds them to you as the knowledge of it allows you to cause them harm.

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