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Re: Status changes view of deity?
« Reply #45 on: December 26, 2018, 04:30:49 pm »
In my opinion, it's difficult to believe in a benevolent God, when you suffer. Why God permits cruelty? Is it sadistic or what? A starving kid in Africa, or men beating their wives. >:(

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Re: Status changes view of deity?
« Reply #46 on: December 26, 2018, 04:43:25 pm »
I'm not going to blame General Eisenhower for suffering whose proximate cause is Adolf Hitler.

I'm going to use that analogy next time I have to explain the problem of evil! It really jives with my understanding of the universe as a Hindu, and the cosmic warfare that I believe to be a major cause of suffering in our world.
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Re: Status changes view of deity?
« Reply #47 on: December 27, 2018, 11:05:11 am »
Christian theology holds that this world is currently at war. Believe me, I do understand your frustration...but I'm not going to blame General Eisenhower for suffering whose proximate cause is Adolf Hitler.
At war? It explains a lot.

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Re: Status changes view of deity?
« Reply #48 on: December 31, 2018, 08:10:32 pm »
I feel that people who are well off will immediately praise God for their success, while I am not sure if the poor person would do the same.

You might take a look at Liberation Theology.  I'm most familiar with it in the Christian context.  In part, it uses scriptural lessons to point to God's favoring the poor and the underdog.

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Re: Status changes view of deity?
« Reply #49 on: December 31, 2018, 08:22:57 pm »

That's the crux of the matter, who is responsible then??

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From the Northern / Teutonic perspective, Wyrd has three parts:

- that which was
- that which is now
- what is becoming

Feeding into these three parts are not only:
- your own life, history, family, genetics, etc.
- the history and movements at play in the community where one lives
- the choices one makes in navigating these conditions
- the confluence of random and decisional behaviors that lead to a given situation.

So, bad things happening are often some combination of the above:
- choices I made (for example, if I smoked. Or, counterexample: excellence as a habit)
- situations I inherited, both genetic predispositions and community politics
- choices those around me make (being New Year's Eve where I am, a lot of friends are reminding each other not to drive drunk.)
- random or environmental conditions.

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