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Author Topic: Meditation by gazing at a candle flame  (Read 182 times)

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Meditation by gazing at a candle flame
« on: August 22, 2020, 07:14:57 pm »
It's occurred to me that I can only perform this type of meditation in company, and I wondered whether anyone might have any thoughts as to why this might be the case?

I'm not the best at meditation, still very much a beginner -- honestly, I really need a guided meditation to follow else my mind just wanders immediately and repeatedly, until I just give up.  Even then, with the recording of a guided meditation, it's hit or miss -- I have to be in the right frame of mind to begin with, and there are still times when I just give up after a few minutes because I just can't keep my mind from going all over the place no matter how I try.

But it just strikes me as odd that I can get into a really relaxed, meditative state while gazing at the candle flame whenever my eclectic Wiccan friend and I do this at her place during our meet ups (not done for many months now, as you can imagine, due to the lockdown).  It's the closest I can get to being in any kind of a trance.  But not when I attempt it at home by myself, it doesn't work.  You'd think the reverse would be true, since you'd think I'd be more self-conscious at my friends place, and less so by myself.

Maybe it's just as simple as my knowing that husband could walk in at any minute and disturb me, whereas when my friend and I do this activity it's always just the two of us, plus we have also set out to do our semi-regular "something pagan-y" as we have come to refer to it.  (My husband is not very good at respecting my meditation time; it's not deliberate but he just tends to forget and when he's gaming he loses track of the passage of time, too, so he possibly just assumes that I must be done by now or something.)

Does anyone else do (or previously tried) this form of meditation, and if so how do you feel about this form?  Have you ever experienced anything similar to the above?  If so, did you find a way to get past it and have you any tips for me as to how I might do the same?

Tl;dr -- anyone hit any snags while trying this activity, and if so what did you do when that happened?
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Re: Meditation by gazing at a candle flame
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2020, 07:05:21 pm »
Does anyone else do (or previously tried) this form of meditation, and if so how do you feel about this form?  Have you ever experienced anything similar to the above?  If so, did you find a way to get past it and have you any tips for me as to how I might do the same?

This is my usual form of meditation, minus guided meditation and plus breath awareness. I don't know if I'd call myself good at it (or for that matter, if being good at it is the point ...)

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it's hit or miss -- I have to be in the right frame of mind to begin with, and there are still times when I just give up after a few minutes because I just can't keep my mind from going all over the place no matter how I try.

Eh, I'm like this too. As far as I know it's fairly normal. I generally try the method of, as soon as I notice I'm thinking about something specific, to purposely let go of that thought. Eventually I end up with only my Second Thoughts (thinking about my own thinking) active, and if I can keep that up, I can get a light trance going. That happens maybe 1/3 - 1/4 of the time.

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Maybe it's just as simple as my knowing that husband could walk in at any minute and disturb me,

Yeah, that could be a major factor. (It's the same reason I can't use any kind of timer; my brain keeps going 'are we there yet?')

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it's not deliberate but he just tends to forget and when he's gaming he loses track of the passage of time, too, so he possibly just assumes that I must be done by now or something.)

Maybe set up a visual cue of some kind? Like a 'do not disturb' door hanger or similar?

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