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Author Topic: Something that's confusing me concerning the Joy Of Satan Ministries  (Read 3983 times)

Tay Redgrave

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Re: Something that's confusing me concerning the Joy Of Satan Ministries
« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2013, 07:17:26 pm »
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It's not an allegation.   Dietrich's NSM membership is a matter of public record.  They also link to 666 Black Sun which is an explicitly Neo-Nazi Satanist site.  The JoS are widely accused of being antisemitic theologically as well.

On top of that, their "skull and bones" satanic symbol is damn near to the SS death's head.  

Stay well away.  My 'radar' is normally pretty good on this subject, but it really wasn't needed here.  They aren't subtle in the slightest.

I was hesitant in mentioning this because I'm not sure how true it is, but along with all of this, her husband is apparently a Neo-Nazi. So, uh, there's that too.

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Re: Something that's confusing me concerning the Joy Of Satan Ministries
« Reply #31 on: December 11, 2013, 07:51:13 pm »
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I was hesitant in mentioning this because I'm not sure how true it is, but along with all of this, her husband is apparently a Neo-Nazi. So, uh, there's that too.

 
It's true.  Definitely.  He was one of the founders of the American Nazi Party.
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Re: Something that's confusing me concerning the Joy Of Satan Ministries
« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2013, 08:25:12 pm »
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You see, the problem with bringing up these issues with JOS itself is that you're immediately silenced. Their forums are heavily monitored and the priests do not address this stuff. Ever.


Religious groups that do this have evolved into Evil Brainwashing Cult Phase. Forget J.O.S. exists, let 'em rot, and seek out a different denomination.

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Re: Something that's confusing me concerning the Joy Of Satan Ministries
« Reply #33 on: December 15, 2013, 08:38:58 am »
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Religious groups that do this have evolved into Evil Brainwashing Cult Phase. Forget J.O.S. exists, let 'em rot, and seek out a different denomination.

Actually, it can be very brainwashing, and does have cult tendencies*. What does get me upset is that they're also recruiting teenagers, who are susceptible at this time, due to the fact they're figuring themselves out (among other reasons) so anyone who is a teenager could easily be swept into it. Thankfully, they may eventually realize what's going on or something's odd about this and branch out, because teenagers aren't dumb (...sometimes).

*I'm not sure if it's exactly a cult, per se, just that it displays some cult characteristics, which is kind of eyebrow-raising to say the least.

Generally though, yeah, let them go and let them work themselves out or destroy themselves. Not much else you can do at that point.

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Re: Something that's confusing me concerning the Joy Of Satan Ministries
« Reply #34 on: March 25, 2014, 03:24:05 pm »
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First of all, all due respects to the aforementioned organization. I am thankful for their input in helping me to greatly develop my spiritual capabilities. I'll raise a drink to them!

Unfortunately, there is something... troubling. I've been hearing rumblings that the group has become rather corrupt. Apparently Mrs. Dietrich has created a thoughtform meant to represent Satan, instead of actually honouring the actual Satan. Now, I'm not saying that I believe all this, but obviously I'm not the only one who has brought this possibility to attention.

That being Said, apparently Satan himself has abandoned the ministry and its followers for various reasons.

Once again, I intend no disrespect towards Mrs. Dietrich and her friends, but I think this needs to be addressed. After all, the site and its forums attract a lot of young people.



All the best,

Vovk

I am probably responding to an older topic.  However i have been reading a lot about this jos thing including the terrible angelfire site. The demon/fallen angel part was very interesting. As i do have a big interest in them. However the rest of miss dietrich's website....Hugh. ..ooooooo. Just. .NO! I get an eerie feeling from that. Must be my jewish/italian/roma heritage. The part where she tells kids to secretly pact with satan if their parents don't agree. Or do it in their astral Temple. ..well the whole come over to the dark side and get Everything you want ... makes me want to fly to the womanizer and slap her... seriously.   I am all acceptive    and embrace all religions but miss dietrich is harvesting souls so to speak.   Just my opinion.

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