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Sacred Sex
« on: September 03, 2011, 10:01:47 am »
sex is the ultimate form of spirituality
everything we do, we make sacred by infusing it with humor + sexual energy
combine this with loving kindness/psychedelia, and you will never return
you will have reached the final goal of all magickal efforts and culmination of wisdom, the meaning of life
blessed be, love!
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Re: Sacred Sex
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2011, 11:56:32 am »
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sex is the ultimate form of spirituality
everything we do, we make sacred by infusing it with humor + sexual energy
combine this with loving kindness/psychedelia, and you will never return
you will have reached the final goal of all magickal efforts and culmination of wisdom, the meaning of life
blessed be, love!

 
WHAT is with everything coming down to sex????

c'mon, we even have more basic urges than that!  Why can't it all come down to food, or napping, or something like that?  sheesh.

I do NOT infuse my relationship with my son with sexual energy.  EW.

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Re: Sacred Sex
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2011, 12:26:21 pm »
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WHAT is with everything coming down to sex????

c'mon, we even have more basic urges than that!  Why can't it all come down to food, or napping, or something like that?  sheesh.

I do NOT infuse my relationship with my son with sexual energy.  EW.


Makes me think that someone has been looking at tantric sex acts and things and didn't get the whole picture.   Perhaps even delving into the Kama Sutra.

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Re: Sacred Sex
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2011, 01:00:02 pm »
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WHAT is with everything coming down to sex????

c'mon, we even have more basic urges than that!  Why can't it all come down to food, or napping, or something like that?  sheesh.

I do NOT infuse my relationship with my son with sexual energy.  EW.


IMO and IME it comes down to everyone wanting to be happy. That's the crux of everything we do, and everyone else as well, even critters (although they may not have the capability of "knowing happiness" as we do). Folks who badmouth other folks do so because it makes themselves feel better. It makes them happy, in that sense. Congress screws over the voters because they can--they're exercising their power, which makes them happy (even if you'd never know it to look at some of them). I cook cornbread with sausage gravy because it makes me happy to cook, and that particular thing brings great delight to my family too. BONUS!

I'm with you. It does NOT all come down to sex. After all, sex is only another way of attaining happiness, isn't it. :-)
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Re: Sacred Sex
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2011, 03:30:08 pm »
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sex is the ultimate form of spirituality
everything we do, we make sacred by infusing it with humor + sexual energy
combine this with loving kindness/psychedelia, and you will never return
you will have reached the final goal of all magickal efforts and culmination of wisdom, the meaning of life
blessed be, love!

 
Oh great, and all this time I thought I was depressed and feeling spiritually unfulfilled because of brain chemistry.  Nope, all I need to do is get laid.  Now all I need to do is get over cringing-to-physically-hurting anyone who touches me and I will be fine.



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Re: Sacred Sex
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2011, 07:15:31 pm »
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Why can't it all come down to food, or napping, or something like that?  sheesh.

 

Oh, man. My kingdom for a world in which it all comes down to naps. :)
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Re: Sacred Sex
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2011, 08:00:00 pm »
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Makes me think that someone has been looking at tantric sex acts and things and didn't get the whole picture.   Perhaps even delving into the Kama Sutra.

 

i like wicca but sometimes i feel like there are too many sexual perversions added on 'symbolically' (perhaps by spiteful critics) for it to work for me, I thought wiccans were sexually free but enough is enough, especially if its not sincere, it can really hold you back, others assumptions can invade your mind, this is too much, I handle my own taoist processes, not the processes of an entire tribe, i feel too rigid to be able to do anything, suddenly people are coming up at me, assuming i'm like a pervert, or i'm doing voodoo neither of these paths really interests me, i'm interesting in something a bit more arcane, and not driven by base desires, that doesn't make it stop being magic, in fact i think there is a large amount of magic that is like this, that has very little or no immoral application, and will not harm the practicioner in any way

on the other hand, i notice wiccans who are nowhere near as free as you would think they would be, and spread all their time trying to control other's sex or use it as a thing
i think sex will always be a magical thing, not something even a priestess can bestow upon you, as is recorded as having happened in ancient times, but something that has to happen spontaneously, with someone who really matters personally to you

i think fairies are amazing, and relations between fairies and people is not bad, looking strange is not bad, and in fact maybe it would help us to be more open to different kind of sexualities, winkte, in a pagan worldview, beyond the limiting constraints of people going up to rep for their ancestors, I think it goes beyond that, things are probably never going to return to the way they were, at least consciously,

the more fairies elves dwarves gnomes and people mingle the better, is  what I think, anciently we are the same, and when we are together we are closer to wholeness

but i think we've got to calm down our looks, if we just look bizarre and dark and dangerously insane, like we are trying to offset the world all the time its no good
of course we'll be seen as bad

but if we appear in a more free and wondrous manner, the world may have more understanding
after all that is the natural state of the world

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Re: Sacred Sex
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2011, 08:30:24 pm »
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i like wicca but sometimes i feel like there are too many sexual perversions added on 'symbolically' (perhaps by spiteful critics) for it to work for me, I thought wiccans were sexually free but enough is enough, especially if its not sincere, it can really hold you back, others assumptions can invade your mind, this is too much, I handle my own taoist processes, not the processes of an entire tribe, i feel too rigid to be able to do anything, suddenly people are coming up at me, assuming i'm like a pervert, or i'm doing voodoo neither of these paths really interests me, i'm interesting in something a bit more arcane, and not driven by base desires, that doesn't make it stop being magic, in fact i think there is a large amount of magic that is like this, that has very little or no immoral application, and will not harm the practicioner in any way


Since I am not now nor ever have been a Wiccan I can't say what thier sexual hang ups might be if any.  However, I know enough to make the distinction that their is quite a bit of difference between Inner Court and Outer Court teachings and lineaged and non-lineaged Wiccan practices.  Nor am I trained in a VooDoo, HooDoo or Santeria type pathway so I really can't speak on that facet of sexual notions either.

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on the other hand, i notice wiccans who are nowhere near as free as you would think they would be, and spread all their time trying to control other's sex or use it as a thing  i think sex will always be a magical thing, not something even a priestess can bestow upon you, as is recorded as having happened in ancient times, but something that has to happen spontaneously, with someone who really matters personally to you


Again I really do not see what that has to do with the discussion you started.  Orgasmic rites I agree have been around for many centuries but not all of them were based upon sexual concepts.  Nor has sexual rites and practices been about the sexual union in my opinion as much as it is about release and union of the aggressive male energies and the passive female energies and recognizing the opposites to be found when both are combined at the height of the union.  At that moment realizing the harmonic balance where the feminine is brough forth within the male side and the masculine is brough forth within the female side and found in its most primordial state of creation.

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i think fairies are amazing, and relations between fairies and people is not bad, looking strange is not bad, and in fact maybe it would help us to be more open to different kind of sexualities, winkte, in a pagan worldview, beyond the limiting constraints of people going up to rep for their ancestors, I think it goes beyond that, things are probably never going to return to the way they were, at least consciously,


I think the Sidhe are interesting and amazing but attribute "Fairies" to childrens tales and make believe.  To delve into the Seelie and Unseelie courts or the concept of trooping and non-trooping identifications does make them more alive to me.

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the more fairies elves dwarves gnomes and people mingle the better, is  what I think, anciently we are the same, and when we are together we are closer to wholeness


Perhaps but what does that have to do with sexual magics or sacred sex?  Though in most camps I am aware of Elves, Gnomes, Dwarves are all classified as fae creatures just like Red Caps, Seelkies, Kelpies, Water Horses, etc.

But to be honest I am not sure if you've built a straw man here or just tossed in a red herrin with the references to Wicca and Fairies.  Both usages seem to apply equally.

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Re: Sacred Sex
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2011, 08:46:11 pm »
Quote from: rainbowgrower;17601
sex is the ultimate form of spirituality
everything we do, we make sacred by infusing it with humor + sexual energy
combine this with loving kindness/psychedelia, and you will never return
you will have reached the final goal of all magickal efforts and culmination of wisdom, the meaning of life
blessed be, love!

 
Dunno where you got your information from, but there is whole lot more to Feri than the divine lust of God Herself.

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Re: Sacred Sex
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2011, 11:41:34 am »
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i like wicca but sometimes i feel like there are too many sexual perversions added on 'symbolically' (perhaps by spiteful critics) for it to work for me, I thought wiccans were sexually free but enough is enough, especially if its not sincere, it can really hold you back, others assumptions can invade your mind, this is too much

I think it also depends on which type of Wiccans we're talking about here too. Traditional Wicca emphasises polarity, and celebrates the fertility of life, so sacred sexuality is something that it's big on. I know I haven't personally noticed any perversions, or hindrance of freedom, but Wicca also isn't for everyone, and certainly not the only tradition where sex is sacred.

On a magickal level, I would have to agree given the power within sex magick.

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« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2011, 02:26:16 pm »
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On a magickal level, I would have to agree given the power within sex magick.

 
I think it depends on what god you are channeling and where your very essence is originating from. Hedonistic gods may very well feed from and gift power through those that can harvest energy from sex. I know I do...and I'll leave it at that. Hedonistic acts allow me to channel Pan better and work my arts with subtlety and success.
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Re: Sacred Sex
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2011, 05:55:08 pm »
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Why can't it all come down to food, or napping, or something like that?


Of course it all comes down to food! I'd take chocolate (and its guaranteed satisfaction) over sex any day! :p
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Re: Sacred Sex
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2011, 07:19:02 pm »
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Of course it all comes down to food! I'd take chocolate (and its guaranteed satisfaction) over sex any day! :p

 
OOOOHHHH  CHOCOLATE!!!!  **drools**  

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« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2011, 08:13:33 pm »
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Of course it all comes down to food! I'd take chocolate (and its guaranteed satisfaction) over sex any day! :p

 
food *is* sex :D: all kinds, we can eat anything from light to little rocks to garlic mustard
I mean, it goes into us, we go into it at some point
we are one!

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Re: Sacred Sex
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2011, 08:14:37 pm »
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Of course it all comes down to food! I'd take chocolate (and its guaranteed satisfaction) over sex any day! :p

 
food *is* sex, in the sense that I am talking about :D: all kinds, we can eat anything from light to little rocks to garlic mustard
I mean, it goes into us, we go into it at some point
we are one!

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