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Author Topic: Cult of Cthulhu anyone?  (Read 2103 times)

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Cult of Cthulhu anyone?
« on: May 17, 2016, 08:58:36 am »
I'm surprised I haven't found mention of any serious Cthulhu cults out there, I mean, with the character's popularity and all...There were a few underground cults from what I've heard, but they were mostly wannabe devil-worshippers or just hooligans, or just teen pot-heads.
Anyway, any of you heard of anything?

Ooh, here's an interesting site with funny Cthulhu comics! ;)

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Re: Cult of Cthulhu anyone?
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2016, 10:23:24 am »
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I'm surprised I haven't found mention of any serious Cthulhu cults out there, I mean, with the character's popularity and all...There were a few underground cults from what I've heard, but they were mostly wannabe devil-worshippers or just hooligans, or just teen pot-heads.
Anyway, any of you heard of anything?

Ooh, here's an interesting site with funny Cthulhu comics! ;)

 
I've not heard of any actual cults, or indeed many hooligans since Lovecraft is such a nerd thing, but there's a bunch of magicians out there who have used the mythos as a framework. Hell, Llewellyn even has a book on it by Donald Tyson. (...which I own but have yet to seriously read.)

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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2016, 12:40:48 pm »
Quote from: the_raven;191170
I'm surprised I haven't found mention of any serious Cthulhu cults out there, I mean, with the character's popularity and all...There were a few underground cults from what I've heard, but they were mostly wannabe devil-worshippers or just hooligans, or just teen pot-heads.
Anyway, any of you heard of anything?

Aleister Crowley's slightly eccentric disciple Kenneth Grant (RIP) was interested in Lovecraft's stories as a basis of a magical paradigm, but I am not knowledgeable about that. The Typhonian Order continues his work. Here in Sweden it has had some influence on the LHP magical order Dragon Rouge.

Likewise, the rather eccentric magician Michael Bertiaux in Chicago mixes Vodou, French Neo-Gnosticism, Thelema, UFOlogy and Lovecraft's yogsothothery into something very hard to describe.

In the 1970s, the pseudonym Simon published a book intended to be a sort of a Necronomicon, but it takes itself too seriously. It as later followed by The Necronomicon Spellbook. It contains early translations from Akkadian with lovecraftian deity-names crudely inserted into the texts.

In 1978 Turner, Langford, Hay and Wilson (some of them practicing magicians) wrote a more tongue-in-cheek Necronomicon of their own.

A group of - presumeably - chaos magicians formed The Esoteric Order of Dagon (named after the fictitious organization with the same name) in order to work with a magical paradigm inspired by Lovecraft.

Personally, I find it hard to understand what is so attractive with a paradigm according to which the advantage of invoking The Old Ones (and their associates) is that you will be eaten before the other poor souls.

The novels are atmospheric, though. Nyarlathotep is my personal favourite, which perhaps doesn't come as much of a surprise.
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Re: Cult of Cthulhu anyone?
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2016, 02:08:32 pm »
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Personally, I find it hard to understand what is so attractive with a paradigm according to which the advantage of invoking The Old Ones (and their associates) is that you will be eaten before the other poor souls.

 
I think it's kinda like "the sooner it ends, the better". Personally, I could take a guess that the coming of Cthulhu (or any of the other beings) is to be so horrible, that dying beforehand is preferable, but I haven't really read into the mythos, so I don't know.

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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2016, 02:13:16 pm »
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I've not heard of any actual cults, or indeed many hooligans since Lovecraft is such a nerd thing


By hooligans I meant just young (or not very much so) people with law issues (many of which are drug addicts, metalheads, etc.). Nerdy or not, there are still such people out there.

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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2016, 02:16:04 pm »
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I think it's kinda like "the sooner it ends, the better". Personally, I could take a guess that the coming of Cthulhu (or any of the other beings) is to be so horrible, that dying beforehand is preferable, but I haven't really read into the mythos, so I don't know.

 
That sounds reasonable.

As a Moldovan and a Swede, none of us are immediately impacted by the presidential election in the US, but the following webpage might be of some interest (and amusement) for many participants on this forum:

https://cthulhuforamerica.com

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Re: Cult of Cthulhu anyone?
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2016, 02:26:50 pm »
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I'm surprised I haven't found mention of any serious Cthulhu cults out there, I mean, with the character's popularity and all...There were a few underground cults from what I've heard, but they were mostly wannabe devil-worshippers or just hooligans, or just teen pot-heads.
Anyway, any of you heard of anything?

Ooh, here's an interesting site with funny Cthulhu comics! ;)

 
http://firstunitedchurchofcthulhu.blogspot.com/
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Re: Cult of Cthulhu anyone?
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2016, 11:59:43 pm »
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By hooligans I meant just young (or not very much so) people with law issues (many of which are drug addicts, metalheads, etc.). Nerdy or not, there are still such people out there.

 
Rock on.

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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2016, 12:05:27 am »
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Personally, I find it hard to understand what is so attractive with a paradigm according to which the advantage of invoking The Old Ones (and their associates) is that you will be eaten before the other poor souls.

The novels are atmospheric, though. Nyarlathotep is my personal favourite, which perhaps doesn't come as much of a surprise.

 
Right? It's like, a big part of the mythos is that if your puny human consciousness DOES glimpse these beings, you're going to go stark raving mad if you're not eaten at once. While as a hardcore horror fan I can appreciate the stories, I can't say I myself would really want to give basing a religion on it a serious go. But to each their own I guess.

I like Shub-Niggurath, and I do love me some Deep Ones.

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Re: Cult of Cthulhu anyone?
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2016, 12:44:41 am »
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Right? It's like, a big part of the mythos is that if your puny human consciousness DOES glimpse these beings, you're going to go stark raving mad if you're not eaten at once. While as a hardcore horror fan I can appreciate the stories, I can't say I myself would really want to give basing a religion on it a serious go. But to each their own I guess.

I like Shub-Niggurath, and I do love me some Deep Ones.

 
The competitive card games my spouse and I play has a few cards based on Lovecraft's mythos, all called Cthulhu as a 'species'. I really like the art. Plus there's a 'cthulhu killer' card. Anyway!

While I've enjoyed the Lovecraft I've read, and it's influenced my own stories, it hasn't so much influenced my interactions with the spirits and I, too, would hesitate at incorporating them entirely. I cherry pick what I like from literature and media, and I've mostly grabbed the not-rightness that is present in so many of Lovecraft's works and their atmosphere and discarded the stark raving madness bit. Kinda.

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Re: Cult of Cthulhu anyone?
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2016, 01:46:37 am »
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I think it's kinda like "the sooner it ends, the better". Personally, I could take a guess that the coming of Cthulhu (or any of the other beings) is to be so horrible, that dying beforehand is preferable, but I haven't really read into the mythos, so I don't know.

 
I went out with Campus Crusade for Cthulhu a couple of times in college, and while we argued it facetiously and in a manner designed to annoy evangelical Christians, we definitely argued that being devoured by Cthulhu directly before it got /really bad/ was a distinct advantage.
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« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2016, 08:54:37 am »
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A group of - presumeably - chaos magicians formed The Esoteric Order of Dagon (named after the fictitious organization with the same name) in order to work with a magical paradigm inspired by Lovecraft.

Personally, I find it hard to understand what is so attractive with a paradigm according to which the advantage of invoking The Old Ones (and their associates) is that you will be eaten before the other poor souls.

 
Lovecraftian mythos isn't my thing (apart from anything else I don't like Lovecraft as a writer) but The Esoteric Order of Dagon did go into at least some explanation on that:

Though the initiates of the Esoteric Order of Dagon do not believe in the absolute existence of the deities which are portrayed in the Cthulhu Mythos, they find the iconography of Lovecraft’s work to be a useful paradigm for gaining access to deeper, non-rational areas of the subconscious. The oneiric origin of Lovecraft’s stories
is of crucial importance here, in pointing the way of access to parts of the human mind which are identified with alien and (literally) nameless horrors in his fiction.”


Phil Hine's Pseudonomicon is worth reading as well.
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