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Author Topic: Datura/Belladonna/Henbane for stress  (Read 2781 times)

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Datura/Belladonna/Henbane for stress
« on: December 02, 2013, 02:00:41 am »
Hi,

I haven't been able to find anyone that is skilled in poisonous plants to tell me the truth behind the Nightshade family of herbs. I have seen and read many stories about nightshade herbs being used to treat a myriad of stress related ailments. I have been told to exercise extreme caution when working with any of the nightshade herbs because it is uncertain how potent they can be. Can thing like Belladonna and Datura really help with stress? I've only come across medieval stories about such herbs being utilized for stress. It seems modern medicine has turned to synthetic prescription drugs as a remedy.

What is the truth about herbs within the nightshade family? I know that sweet/hot peppers are within the nightshade family and tomatoes and potatoes, but they aren't deadly unless im misinformed....


Thoughts?

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Re: Datura/Belladonna/Henbane for stress
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2013, 02:39:19 am »
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What is the truth about herbs within the nightshade family? I know that sweet/hot peppers are within the nightshade family and tomatoes and potatoes, but they aren't deadly unless im misinformed....


The relative truth about the nightshade family is that their therapeutic and poisonous dosages tend to be very similar, which is why it's a TERRIBLE idea for the laymen to screw around with them.  You definitely qualify, so just don't.

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Re: Datura/Belladonna/Henbane for stress
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2013, 02:43:50 am »
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The relative truth about the nightshade family is that their therapeutic and poisonous dosages tend to be very similar, which is why it's a TERRIBLE idea for the laymen to screw around with them.  You definitely qualify, so just don't.

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Re: Datura/Belladonna/Henbane for stress
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2013, 04:55:31 am »
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Thoughts?


Yes, but I should first run them through my internal filter system before voicing them here.

OK, done.

Those are not recreational drugs.

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Re: Datura/Belladonna/Henbane for stress
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2013, 07:50:50 am »
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Hi,

I haven't been able to find anyone that is skilled in poisonous plants to tell me the truth behind the Nightshade family of herbs. I have seen and read many stories about nightshade herbs being used to treat a myriad of stress related ailments. I have been told to exercise extreme caution when working with any of the nightshade herbs because it is uncertain how potent they can be. Can thing like Belladonna and Datura really help with stress? I've only come across medieval stories about such herbs being utilized for stress. It seems modern medicine has turned to synthetic prescription drugs as a remedy.

What is the truth about herbs within the nightshade family? I know that sweet/hot peppers are within the nightshade family and tomatoes and potatoes, but they aren't deadly unless im misinformed....


Thoughts?

 
Just chow down on a wolf peach, that might help. Otherwise it's a nice snack.
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Re: Datura/Belladonna/Henbane for stress
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2013, 08:18:05 am »
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The relative truth about the nightshade family is that their therapeutic and poisonous dosages tend to be very similar, which is why it's a TERRIBLE idea for the laymen to screw around with them.  You definitely qualify, so just don't.

This in spades. Also, there are at times good reasons that we don't use certain plants as drugs any more. Sometimes modern medicine is just safer (or works better), even after you consider the possible side effects. While this certainly isn't true of every plant vs modern medicine story, in general, it's true of the nighshade family.
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Re: Datura/Belladonna/Henbane for stress
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2013, 08:54:45 pm »
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What is the truth about herbs within the nightshade family? I know that sweet/hot peppers are within the nightshade family and tomatoes and potatoes, but they aren't deadly unless im misinformed....


Thoughts?

 
I'm going to second what others have said.  Unless you're after the kind of relaxation that occurs after rigor mortis wears off, no, these are not good herbs for stress relief.  There are enough vastly safer herbal alternatives for stress reduction that the nightshades don't even need to be considered for this purpose.
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Re: Datura/Belladonna/Henbane for stress
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2013, 09:01:04 pm »
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Not about demons, but here's a YouTube video about herbal stress relief.

[video]http://youtu.be/0EM8zWjEA7s[/video]
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Re: Datura/Belladonna/Henbane for stress
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2013, 02:44:10 pm »
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This in spades. Also, there are at times good reasons that we don't use certain plants as drugs any more. Sometimes modern medicine is just safer (or works better), even after you consider the possible side effects. While this certainly isn't true of every plant vs modern medicine story, in general, it's true of the nighshade family.


Yep, agreeing with everyone else who says these herbs are HIGHLY dangerous. HIGHLY! Do not try this at home. (Or anywhere else.)

Some herbs for stress:

Lavender, chamomile, hops, st. john's wort, kava, valerian...the list goes on. Also, though not an herb, vitamin B complex.
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« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2013, 03:34:37 pm »
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This in spades. Also, there are at times good reasons that we don't use certain plants as drugs any more. Sometimes modern medicine is just safer (or works better), even after you consider the possible side effects. While this certainly isn't true of every plant vs modern medicine story, in general, it's true of the nighshade family.

 
What? Naw! I say we let him try it!

1. Take herbs.
2. ????
3. Make a Youtube Video
4. ???
5. Profit
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« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2013, 03:42:18 pm »
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What? Naw! I say we let him try it!

1. Take herbs.
2. ????
3. Make a Youtube Video
4. ???
5. Profit

 

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Re: Datura/Belladonna/Henbane for stress
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2013, 03:55:27 pm »
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What? Naw! I say we let him try it!

1. Take herbs.
2. ????
3. Make a Youtube Video
4. ???
5. Profit

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« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2013, 11:34:44 pm »
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....

What is the truth about herbs within the nightshade family? I know that sweet/hot peppers are within the nightshade family and tomatoes and potatoes, but they aren't deadly unless im misinformed....


Thoughts?

What everyone else said, plus this: potatoes, once they oxidize (turn green) are actually toxic.  Those wanting nightshade poisoning need look no further than that.
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Re: Datura/Belladonna/Henbane for stress
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2013, 11:49:54 pm »
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What everyone else said, plus this: potatoes, once they oxidize (turn green) are actually toxic.  


But they make great vodka.  

I kid, I kid.  

There's no such thing as great vodka.
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« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2013, 11:52:15 pm »
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But they make great vodka.  

I kid, I kid.  

There's no such thing as great vodka.

Agreed.  I'm a gin gal, myself.
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