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Author Topic: General/Non-Specific: beauty of paganism  (Read 336 times)

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beauty of paganism
« on: July 02, 2018, 04:29:58 am »
Hello! One of the main characteristics of paganism is variety. Paganism is so versatile, that its believers may be polytheists, monotheists, atheists, agnostics, monists, dualists, pantheists etc. and many more. In paganism there is no room for bigotry. So paganism is a religion of peace. There aren't religious wars within paganism. And one thing I like about paganism is the acceptance of all the Gods. Pagans may worship only a number of deities, but they don't label as ''fakes'' the other Gods, which they don't worship.

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Re: beauty of paganism
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2018, 06:11:12 pm »
Hello! One of the main characteristics of paganism is variety. Paganism is so versatile, that its believers may be polytheists, monotheists, atheists, agnostics, monists, dualists, pantheists etc. and many more. In paganism there is no room for bigotry. So paganism is a religion of peace. There aren't religious wars within paganism. And one thing I like about paganism is the acceptance of all the Gods. Pagans may worship only a number of deities, but they don't label as ''fakes'' the other Gods, which they don't worship.

You might want to think again about these points. First of all, there is bigotry in Polytheism. For example, there are Odinist groups that use Heathenry as a vehicle for National Socialism, and you can't get much more bigoted than that.

Second, 'Paganism' is definitely not a religion of peace. Partly because 'Paganism' isn't really a religion, but a loose definition of several religions with similar features. And partly because all these religions exalt war gods. Famous ones include Mars, Athena, Ares, and Odin. Pretty much all my gods are war gods, or style themselves as war gods to symbolise their authority. Chief among them are Huitzilopotchli, Tezcatlipoca, Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, and Xipe Totec, each representing a different aspect of war, stife and violence.

And thirdly, I think we can find 'gods' that definitely are not real. I'm not even talking about fictional paganism (although I would never worship a fictional god, being a hard polytheist, I recognise that the practise as useful philosophical benefits). Some modern polytheists/religious practitioners are just frauds. Plain and simple.

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Re: beauty of paganism
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2018, 12:00:05 pm »
Hello! One of the main characteristics of paganism is variety. Paganism is so versatile, that its believers may be polytheists, monotheists, atheists, agnostics, monists, dualists, pantheists etc. and many more. In paganism there is no room for bigotry. So paganism is a religion of peace. There aren't religious wars within paganism. And one thing I like about paganism is the acceptance of all the Gods. Pagans may worship only a number of deities, but they don't label as ''fakes'' the other Gods, which they don't worship.

This is rather starry-eyed and optimistic, as Yei noted already.

Paganism is not a religion.  Paganism is a socio-cultural movement, and there are many religions that fall within that movement, and hooboy do some of those people hate each other's guts. Pagan holy wars are many and petty, and probably half of them are rooted in part in this notion that "paganism" is a religion and thus that people who aren't doing the same thing are clearly Wrong.

Meanwhile I'm reminded of the guy who tried to seriously argue once that no pagans could worship male gods.
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Re: beauty of paganism
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2018, 01:47:40 pm »
thank you for the comments. I think religious tolerance should be a main part in the pagan religions. paganism is an umbrella term, and we can use this very term to see all pagans as a big varied family. religious intolerance harms people.

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Re: beauty of paganism
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2018, 06:49:03 pm »
I think religious tolerance should be a main part in the pagan religions. paganism is an umbrella term, and we can use this very term to see all pagans as a big varied family.

Of course there's no problem with making that idea part of your particular paganism. Just don't be too surprised or disappointed when other people don't put it in their kind of paganism.

In my path, tolerance and peace are valued, but other things are more important, such as integrity or self-defense.

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Re: beauty of paganism
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2018, 11:10:32 pm »


A Reminder:
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Re: beauty of paganism
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2018, 11:38:41 am »
Of course there's no problem with making that idea part of your particular paganism. Just don't be too surprised or disappointed when other people don't put it in their kind of paganism.

In my path, tolerance and peace are valued, but other things are more important, such as integrity or self-defense.
integrity and self-defense is of primary importance. we will live together with our differences. we won't change our values so that all pagans will become similar, no way. variety is the keyword.

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Re: beauty of paganism
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2018, 11:40:18 am »
A Reminder:
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thank you for the clarification.

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