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Re: Any pop culture pagans here?
« Reply #45 on: November 22, 2015, 03:18:24 am »
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Hi, Aubren,

Just a reminder that '[a]ttacking a post based on typos [or] poor spelling' is a violation of our rules. Since the overall tone of your post is not 'attacking', this is only a reminder, not a warning - but we do take a dim view of people criticizing others' spelling/typing as if it proved a point about the content of their post.

(Incidentally, I could not find any instance of Mama Fortuna having misspelled 'SU' anywhere in the thread [and several in which she spelled/typed it correctly]. Were you referring to the post you quoted, where she said 'And so, SO not for me'? I'm pretty certain she was saying, 'And so, so not for me,' not, 'And so, SU is not for me.')


That was the exact sentence, and I'm not sure how you interpreted it as a "so". We were clearly talking about SU; and on a QWERTY style keyboard the U and O are separated by a single letter. In order to interpret it as "so", one would have to assume they're either using an accent or that it's a grammatical error. And since it was capitalized and they had previously misspelled "Steven" as "Stephen" I took the typo route, as it indicated a carelessness that allows one to overlook typos when talking about something that person is disinterested in (which allows a friendly teasing); as opposed to imagining a valley-girl accent or overlooked grammatical error.

Merely different interpretations of written language. Ah, texted word, you confuse so many, yet are so helpful.

 
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This is quite different from Juniperberry's request about your formatting, which she differentiated clearly from the content of the thread, explained in terms of its impact on her personally, and expressed as a request; the result was fully compliant with our rules.
I agree to that. I was slightly annoyed at the request. I'm usually the one asking people to make accommodations for me. It's funny how it feels, how the tables turn, when someone else asks that of you. It feels imposing, even though it's a reasonable request, by all means. I've been wondering why people get impatient with my needs, and now I know why.

 
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I'm going to try to clarify the issue here. Your threadstarting post is a particularly strong example of what JB is talking about, so I'll quote it, and mark the places (with a purple asterisk, like so *) where you've hit 'enter' after a sentence but not as a paragraph break.



I'm not sure if this is what you mean by, 'to me, there's a visual gap while still bring visibly part of the same paragraph,' or not.

While it's not against the rules, and you're free to (politely) refuse JB's request, it does make your posts more difficult to follow; I have some trouble with it myself, and when there are two people having issues with a thing, there are likely to be more. So, if you choose to continue it, be aware that you may be closing out some part of your potential audience.

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I'll try to change it. I knew there was something different about my paragraph formatting, but I wasn't sure what. Since I write like that to clarify my intentions, a change is probably in order.
I'm wondering why I haven't gotten that remark on YouTube however, where I post a lot more.

Your purple asterisks mark exactly what I was referring to.
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Re: Any pop culture pagans here?
« Reply #46 on: November 22, 2015, 04:01:20 am »
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Oh, that's all from the animatics. That's storyboards set with the vocals in a video file. So you do get to see what you're doing, but you don't like, get sent scripts ahead of time. Thankfully lip synch is not even my department. I work in builds.
...I know so much less about this industry than I thought. Holy crap.

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Sorry, I capitalized 'so' for emphasis. I can see how that would be confusing, sorry. Let me try that again: so, so not for me. :)

Apology accepted. I think it's a language miscommunication, for the most part. Like, on Tumblr, there'd be a higher chance of it italicized or bolded for emphasis, as opposed to capitalization. Capitalization for emphasis is usually limited to yelling. Or when you don't want to/can't use html and asterisks wouldn't work (like in a role play where you use asterisks to mean actions/thoughts or have used them to indicate a note at the bottom).

I wouldn't have capitalized "so" sheerly because of the risk* of the miscommunication that happened here. I would have done: "so, *so* not for me".

*As there was a capitalized 2 letter abbreviation that started with an "S".


Tumblr is generally younger and ecauldron is older, so it'd make sense for you to use an "outdated" (older) style.


Incidentally, I would Iike to use all of the cool little gadgets that are in the bar above me as I'm writing this. Is this unavailable on mobile? Is this available on the tap a talk app?

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Ehh, I actually don't like either of those. I'm not a high fantasy fan, and I think I'm too old and crotchety for the Hunger Games. Stories about young adults in general don't do it for me anymore - I get bored about halfway through the 'hero finds out what their purpose is' narrative and go to make gin and tonics. Nothing against young adult stories as a genre, it's just not my thing. I like horror, mostly.
I'm a little tired of the Chosen One trope as well. But "adult" seems to mean "gore and sex" to books, TV series, movies, and video games. I'll happily watch "kid's stuff" and deal with the cliche to avoid those. Hence Gravity Falls & Steven Universe, which are more satisfyingly "adult" in the "maturity" sense.


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Awesome. And I would assume that you'd use the same precautions you would with any other spirit, yeah? Standard space-and-person cleansing, circle casting if that's your bag.

I have no idea what you're talking about :D

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If the character in question is more like a deity, I suppose you'd start work with offerings and gentle "hey, I'd like to get to know you!" acts. If it's a little more like a demon, why not go full goetic? Summon that shit into a triangle while you chill in a protective circle. I think however you choose to go about it will depend very greatly on your own personal practice and what you usually do for protection.

I'm laughing outloud. Both from the intended humor and due to fitting a triangle into a triangle. (Just google image Bill Cipher, I don't have the skills to put a link in the text.) Which also strikes me as ironic, as his image is sometimes placed in an alchemical circle.

Also, no idea what goetic means. I think I've heard about placing a demon in a triangle before, but it sounds relatively...unfriendly.
I'm trying to make a deal with them, why would I trap them?


The most important thing about summoning them is that at some point or another, I'll be in the dreamworld with them. Kinda the whole point of why we're talking (I'm talking to?) in the first place.
 
Runes under my pillow seems like a bad idea. Either they're not bothering to visit (possibly because I put runes there) or they're straight up being blocked out. Not sure how else to protect myself while asleep, aside from the whole "you can do anything you want!" tactic (which strikes me as slightly victim blaming as of the test session I did with them).

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It probably also depends a lot on the type of media consumed, eh? A darkly noble villain in a blockbuster superhero movie might inspire us in spite of his flaws (or, heck, we might think he was in the right all along!) but you'll probably get less in terms of life lessons from a villain based on Henry Lee Lucas or something like that.

 No idea who that is :D

But I get the gist. A charismatic villain with an abusive past (and thus psychological reasons) is easier to learn from than a bland evil-doer. That's my assumption, at least.
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Re: Any pop culture pagans here?
« Reply #47 on: November 22, 2015, 07:57:41 am »
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That was the exact sentence, and I'm not sure how you interpreted it as a "so". We were clearly talking about SU; and on a QWERTY style keyboard the U and O are separated by a single letter. In order to interpret it as "so", one would have to assume they're either using an accent or that it's a grammatical error.

"SU" is an example of "jargon". People outside the area of interest do not always (and cannot rationally be expected to) know what it means. If you choose to use jargon, you have to be aware that people may misinterpret its meaning -- or even mistake it for a typo in cases like this one. And staff members have to read every message, so one cannot assume that only those interested in the subject will be reading and will know therefore know the jargon. If you have read our rules as you agreed to do before posting when you created your account, you would know that they warn against using jargon for this very reason.
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Re: Any pop culture pagans here?
« Reply #48 on: November 22, 2015, 01:48:49 pm »
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...I know so much less about this industry than I thought. Holy crap.


Well, it's not really something anyone has to think about unless they work in it, you know? It's all terribly dull, I assure you.

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Tumblr is generally younger and ecauldron is older, so it'd make sense for you to use an "outdated" (older) style.


Yes. I am a hag of the internet age. With a valley girl accent. Also, ugh, tumblr. How I can love and hate a site with such equal measure...

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I'm a little tired of the Chosen One trope as well. But "adult" seems to mean "gore and sex" to books, TV series, movies, and video games. I'll happily watch "kid's stuff" and deal with the cliche to avoid those. Hence Gravity Falls & Steven Universe, which are more satisfyingly "adult" in the "maturity" sense.


Which is awesome. Everyone has their thing that they love, right? And no matter what it is that you love, you can sit down and dissect it. You can discuss meaning with other people, or write about your experiences with the show/film's mythology, or just drunkenly explain to people at a party why each character is a symbol for some deep-seated psychological issue. You can do all of that with a show aimed at children, or with Batman, or with a depressing German film. It's all media, and we get stuff out of it if we decide we want to.

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I have no idea what you're talking about :D


Okay, well, since this wasn't in the beginner boards I assumed that you were not a beginner, and so probably had some sort of preferred rituals that you use prior to contacting whatever spirits you work with. So I was thinking that if you were worried about protecting yourself, the first step would be to make sure your working space is clean. Then you can do your thing, and clean up again afterward. That seems to help reduce any harmful energy issues.

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I'm laughing outloud. Both from the intended humor and due to fitting a triangle into a triangle. (Just google image Bill Cipher, I don't have the skills to put a link in the text.) Which also strikes me as ironic, as his image is sometimes placed in an alchemical circle.


I think Bill is why a friend of mine assured me that I might actually enjoy Gravity Falls. That and the Twin Peaks references.

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Also, no idea what goetic means. I think I've heard about placing a demon in a triangle before, but it sounds relatively...unfriendly.
I'm trying to make a deal with them, why would I trap them?


Okay, goetic magic is a style of magic heavy on the summoning of demons. Typically your magician stands in a magic circle and calls up a demon into a triangle. Said magician chats with the demon and makes their demands, sometimes bullying it with holy sacred names and the like. Now, some people don't dig the whole vibe as it seems coercive, and others will argue that if you're dealing with some of the spirits outlined in the Key of Solomon (the who's-who book for this sort of thing) it's the only safe way to interact with them. It's a whole vast and interesting subject that I am not doing justice - I am positive there are people on the board who could explain things much more eloquently than I.

Anyway, I suggested it because it provides a framework that can be adapted pretty easily if you're worried about protection as it provides a bit of space - "I'm in the circle, you stay in the triangle." You do not have to go and adopt all the methods traditional to goetia, but the summoning method might be something to consider. Bill Cipher in particular might respond well to it if in the show he is shown as being drawn in old grimoires.

That makes me think, actually - if he's a magical creature in the show, are there things that people can do to protect themselves from him?

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The most important thing about summoning them is that at some point or another, I'll be in the dreamworld with them. Kinda the whole point of why we're talking (I'm talking to?) in the first place.


Well, there always comes a point where there are no guarantees of safety, yeah? How are your lucid dreaming skills?
 
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No idea who that is :D


Infamous serial killer. There was a movie called "Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer" made about him many years ago starring Michael Rooker. (The actor has since been in other things, including Guardians of the Galaxy, which was a weird moment of recognition for me. "Hey, that alien looks famil--OHMYGAWD.")

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But I get the gist. A charismatic villain with an abusive past (and thus psychological reasons) is easier to learn from than a bland evil-doer. That's my assumption, at least.

 
I dunno about blandness, but I think we can all safely say that Poison Ivy in Batman has nobler goals driving her crimes than someone who is just super messed up and likes murder.

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Re: Any pop culture pagans here?
« Reply #49 on: November 22, 2015, 06:44:22 pm »
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The most important thing about summoning them is that at some point or another, I'll be in the dreamworld with them.

 
I'm gonna hang this here... So, this afternoon after replying to this thread and doing various other internet things I went for a jog. The park I was running through has recently been trashed by some high winds, so I wound up taking a different route than I had planned. And lo and behold what I found when I stopped to take a leak.

OOOOooooOOOOoooOOoooo! *spooky fingers*

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Re: Any pop culture pagans here?
« Reply #50 on: November 23, 2015, 12:01:07 am »
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"SU" is an example of "jargon". People outside the area of interest do not always (and cannot rationally be expected to) know what it means. If you choose to use jargon, you have to be aware that people may misinterpret its meaning -- or even mistake it for a typo in cases like this one. And staff members have to read every message, so one cannot assume that only those interested in the subject will be reading and will know therefore know the jargon. If you have read our rules as you agreed to do before posting when you created your account, you would know that they warn against using jargon for this very reason.

I did read the rules. However, not all jargon is obvious.

Normally, media abbreviations are easy to catch up on.
They say the real name of the show, then start referring to it in a capitalized abbreviation or (seldomly) a shortened word.

So for example, it was easy for me to pick up that Gravity Falls was GF (as opposed to girlfriend) after a brief second or few of confusion. And why SU would be easy-peasy to understand.
You don't need to actually be a fan to understand this.
I'm pretty sure this is common knowledge to my & the next generation (among Internet users, anyways.) I've been doing this since I was a pre-teen, so this practice dates to the mid 2000s, at most.

However, I do acknowledge that-- using media abbreviations as a whole-- could be considered slang, which would apply to ecauldron's jargon definition.


My mistake was that I assumed it was only a little more "slang-worthy" than "cool".
So once again, it was a miscommunication based off of a generational language barrier. That was peacefully resolved.

Look, instead of shutting my mouth and bowing my head, I've gone out of my way to explain how the miscommunication arose from my end. I've admitted my mistakes. Mama Fortuna & I talked it out and we seem to be getting along just fine. Everything is okay.
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« Reply #51 on: November 23, 2015, 01:07:02 am »
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Yes. I am a hag of the internet age. With a valley girl accent. Also, ugh, tumblr. How I can love and hate a site with such equal measure...

What was that quote? "There is a thin line between love & hate".

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Okay, well, since this wasn't in the beginner boards I assumed that you were not a beginner...

It gets weird to define oneself as a beginner when you've been practicing for a few years, even if you're still at beginner level.

The reason I didn't put this in the beginning pagan board was because it wasn't a beginner's subject. An experienced person could still go onto the board and ask if any people sharing their specific religious practice are on the board.

I'm very likely to search for that ritual cleansing thing in the beginner's board, and maybe start that thread if I can't find one or the others are unsatisfactory.

Man, this thread has derailed. And it's all my fault. *Sips a drink.*

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I think Bill is why a friend of mine assured me that I might actually enjoy Gravity Falls. That and the Twin Peaks references.
Well, go knock yourself out. If you want to start from the beginning, you know what to do. Otherwise, skip to "Dreamscaperers" (yes, it's double -"er") where Bill first appears. The first episode & "The Hand That Rocks The Mabel" give some context for Dreamscaperers if you still wanna jump it but have some hesitancy.

I've heard that Twin Peaks was something else besides a Hooter's restaurant copy. The rumors appear to be true.

*Looks it up*

Wow, those are some pretty good ratings.


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Okay, goetic magic is a style of magic heavy on the summoning of demons. Typically your magician stands in a magic circle and calls up a demon into a triangle. Said magician chats with the demon and makes their demands, sometimes bullying it with holy sacred names and the like. Now, some people don't dig the whole vibe as it seems coercive, and others will argue that if you're dealing with some of the spirits outlined in the Key of Solomon (the who's-who book for this sort of thing) it's the only safe way to interact with them. It's a whole vast and interesting subject that I am not doing justice - I am positive there are people on the board who could explain things much more eloquently than I.

Anyway, I suggested it because it provides a framework that can be adapted pretty easily if you're worried about protection as it provides a bit of space - "I'm in the circle, you stay in the triangle." You do not have to go and adopt all the methods traditional to goetia, but the summoning method might be something to consider. Bill Cipher in particular might respond well to it if in the show he is shown as being drawn in old grimoires.

I'll consider it. More because of a dream and your reasoning than my gut--my UPG* seems to be clashing with my actual experience, here.
Like, "shouldn't you dislike this? But wouldn't you feel confined --well okay, if you say so."

(Won't know for sure unless I do it, though. Yay experimenting! :D)

*Please tell me this isn't considered jargon here. Unverified Personal Gnosis, if I have to clarify it.

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That makes me think, actually - if he's a magical creature in the show, are there things that people can do to protect themselves from him?

Do you mean "normal stuff doesn't apply" or "is there stuff in the show that stops him?"

For the former, http://popculturepagan.tumblr.com/post/133252811365/unicorn-hair-protection-from-mindbenders

As for the latter, the lucid dreaming thing I had mentioned  (though not by that name.)

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Well, there always comes a point where there are no guarantees of safety, yeah? How are your lucid dreaming skills?
 

Never bothered practicing. Just didn't want to.
(You have no idea how relieved I am of my full-on dreamself correctly communicating with him *presses a hand to heart*)

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Infamous serial killer. There was a movie called "Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer" made about him many years ago starring Michael Rooker. (The actor has since been in other things, including Guardians of the Galaxy, which was a weird moment of recognition for me. "Hey, that alien looks famil--OHMYGAWD.")

XD
Ah, okay.


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I dunno about blandness, but I think we can all safely say that Poison Ivy in Batman has nobler goals driving her crimes than someone who is just super messed up and likes murder.

There are versions of Ivy that aren't so environmentalist. But I'm just nitpicking, and I've never looked at those ones anyhow.

So what you're trying to say is that Ivy is more noble than the Joker?
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« Reply #52 on: November 23, 2015, 01:31:28 am »
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I'm gonna hang this here... So, this afternoon after replying to this thread and doing various other internet things I went for a jog. The park I was running through has recently been trashed by some high winds, so I wound up taking a different route than I had planned. And lo and behold what I found when I stopped to take a leak.

OOOOooooOOOOoooOOoooo! *spooky fingers*

 
Ever since he wrote this on reddit (which is official):

"TEAM UP WITH ME. INCREASING MY POWER IS EASY AND ANYONE CAN DO IT! JUST DRAW MY FORM ANYWHERE IN YOUR HUMAN WORLD- EACH IMAGE OF ME ACTS A PEEPHOLE FROM MY DIMENSION TO YOURS. THE MORE I SEE, THE MORE I KNOW. THE MORE I KNOW, THE GREATER MY POWER. THE GREATER MY POWER, THE MORE ENEMIES OF YOURS I CAN CRUSH. JUST SHAKE MY HAND"

https://m.reddit.com/r/gravityfalls/comments/315yoy/im_bill_cipher_i_know_lots_of_things_ask_me/cpyoyf2
(Scroll past the first huge box of text.)

People have been drawing him. Some do it out of character love, others do it out of character spite. The bottom is especially popular in bathrooms XD.
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« Reply #53 on: November 23, 2015, 03:48:29 am »
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I'll try to change it. I knew there was something different about my paragraph formatting, but I wasn't sure what. Since I write like that to clarify my intentions, a change is probably in order. *
I'm wondering why I haven't gotten that remark on YouTube however, where I post a lot more.

Your purple asterisks mark exactly what I was referring to.


Bolded asterisk mine. Ehh, different group, different discussion format. Surely, submitting an article to a class or newspaper would mean that as much of a change is in order between how you write here and how you write on YouTube: not only press enter, but indent.

While I understand that you're more comfortable with a single space paragraph to denote a semi-shift in paragraph organization, and a double space paragraph to denote a full shift...evidently, for some readers, that is not a thing.

We've both just got to feel the room more, you know. I've been trying to join Neal Stephenson in making "phant'sy" happen. (You already know he's in the fast lane from L.A. to Tokyo.) But there's no point in communicating that to people who I can predict have a higher chance of flinching at it, even if I think it's so fetch.

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I'm very likely to search for that ritual cleansing thing in the beginner's board, and maybe start that thread if I can't find one or the others are unsatisfactory. Man, this thread has derailed. And it's all my fault. *Sips a drink.*


If we're still talking cleansing and protections in pop culture, I'd like to throw a couple of somewhat-related methods out there. (Although now it's pop culture magic.)

First source material: Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4, wonderful demonstrations of how to transform or process a Jungian Shadow (or miasma) into a protective, or helpful, entity. It's a method that I've found effective*, and I parallel that with inner alchemy (that interprets alchemical procedures as emotional or psychic-as-in-pertaining-to-the-psyche processes) although it has some philosophical implications. (* No, I don't do it in exactly the same way as shown in the game, even though I've tried because I liked the setting and template. Yes, this involved lucid dreams. Dreams get weird, even lucid ones. But by method, I mean I strip the source material of aesthetics and focus on the concept now, which had then worked much better.)

For instance: that the subject has integrity, boundaries, and protectedness by default. Not a lot of people can agree to that, which, of course, is fine. But the way I cleanse and protect then becomes...

1. Identifying that which I consider a pollutant or a threat.
2. Examining why I consider the pollutant or the threat as such.
3. I get a bit vague here, but the best I can put it is that my attitude of the thing and the thing itself are mirror images between myself and the thing. When I resolve my thing, then usually at the same time the thing does a similar thing. Not exactly, though. It's like...once I'm familiar with how to turn "thing a" into "a thing" using "majig" then I can do that thingamajig inside-out. (I'm vague because it usually works in slightly different ways each time, and unfortunately I have taken damage by some offenses stronger than my natural defenses so it's not the be-all end-all, but it's the best I've got.)

Second source material: Puella Magi Madoka Magica (original miniseries). The thing that turns a good witch into an evil witch can be dissipated by an object that you've been told and believe does that thing. Imbuing the meanings and processes to such an object is the sub-structure that I examine, but in practice there are some things I can transmute (see above, from the school of Persona 4) and others that I just want out because I can't abide it.

Gray haematite does exactly the same thing to me as I've watched grief seeds do to soul gems. That's for cleansing.

As for protection, well, I still make the first step a way to bring out what you already are and trust that includes ways to stay that way. So, everybody's way of protecting themselves are going to depend, broadly, on the individual and (more specifically) on the methods generated by the conscious-subconscious relationship.

Synthesis between first and second source materials: Whether you confront your Shadow or make a Wish, the result of that as being able to feel stronger, or have suddenly developed abilities...that's a clue as to how you protect you and yours. Okay, actually doing the protection thing isn't a "clue" anymore as to how you do the protection thing so much as that it's already doing the protection thing.

But the particularities shown in each of the main characters' newfound aesthetics and abilities, I believe, can be reverse-engineered to some extent as...like I said...generated by a relationship between one's conscious self and subconscious self, or just oneself and the world and life events. It can consolidate symbolisms and awaken intuitions of how to utilize those symbols for what an individual might need.

I understand feeling vulnerable at not having refined that instinct, so I don't mean to victim-blame with "you can do whatever you want" because the method that emerges is rarely what the conscious self ever really plans deliberately. However, after the process, the result can be most effective because, basically, you do you.

(Of course, if this was a question of how you cleanse or protect yourself before dabbling in pop culture aesthetics through which forces move that are too recently observed to be within our ken, and I basically answered: "Step one, get yourself in the midst of pop culture aesthetics through which forces move that are too recently observed to be within our ken...and good luck, because you'll require cleansing and protection. Step two, prophet." I, uh, cannot say that is not what I am saying. I'm not a fan of the throw-you-in-the-swimming-pool method of coping, but I don't know what a shallow pool and reliable swimming instructions are going to be in this metaphor. It's all just been immersion.)

That's my ramble. Right now, though, I began to wonder if I truly have any belief or if what I have is just a suspension of disbelief that's different from indifference or agnosticism. Standard disclaimer applies: the psychological or literary analysis interpretation is of course not going to be some standardized approach of pop culture pagans. If Naoto Shirogane and/or Homura Akemi have appeared in people's practices as animistic or personified deities or there's a more particular sort of fictional reconstruction going on or whatnot, then this post is open to misinterpretation because that's not exactly where I'm writing from.
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Re: Any pop culture pagans here?
« Reply #54 on: November 24, 2015, 12:21:31 am »
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even if I think it's so fetch.

 
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Re: Any pop culture pagans here?
« Reply #55 on: November 24, 2015, 12:36:21 am »
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What was that quote? "There is a thin line between love & hate".


And that line is tumblr. XD I'm fine if I stick to pictures on there.

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I'm very likely to search for that ritual cleansing thing in the beginner's board, and maybe start that thread if I can't find one or the others are unsatisfactory.

Man, this thread has derailed. And it's all my fault. *Sips a drink.*


There's probably a few dozen different suggestions for cleansing on this board. I think Jenett's website probably has a bunch too -  http://gleewood.org/seeking/practices/ has some links, looks like.

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I've heard that Twin Peaks was something else besides a Hooter's restaurant copy. The rumors appear to be true.


Dude, you're making me feel ancient and I was only a kid when it aired. We have a Twin Peaks themed bar up here called The Black Lodge, it's pretty cool.

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I'll consider it. More because of a dream and your reasoning than my gut--my UPG* seems to be clashing with my actual experience, here.
Like, "shouldn't you dislike this? But wouldn't you feel confined --well okay, if you say so."


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(Won't know for sure unless I do it, though. Yay experimenting! :D)


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Do you mean "normal stuff doesn't apply" or "is there stuff in the show that stops him?"


Both really. Like that unicorn hair thing sounds pretty effective since it works within the mythology.

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Never bothered practicing. Just didn't want to.


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So what you're trying to say is that Ivy is more noble than the Joker?


Suuure, although I was thinking more like "Ivy is more noble than Leatherface."

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Re: Any pop culture pagans here?
« Reply #56 on: November 24, 2015, 01:57:59 am »
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I did read the rules. However, not all jargon is obvious.



My mistake was that I assumed it was only a little more "slang-worthy" than "cool".
So once again, it was a miscommunication based off of a generational language barrier. That was peacefully resolved.

Look, instead of shutting my mouth and bowing my head, I've gone out of my way to explain how the miscommunication arose from my end. I've admitted my mistakes. Mama Fortuna & I talked it out and we seem to be getting along just fine. Everything is okay.

 
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First, you may have read the rules, but you don't appear to have done so very thoroughly. While Randall didn't put his post about jargon into a 'reminder' or 'warning' box, he was pretty clearly speaking about TC's procedures, policies, and standards, and thus speaking as host, not as a forum member expressing an opinion. That means the rule stating, 'DO follow instructions/suggestions from staff members and hosts about how to post and/or behave on The Cauldron (quoting, formatting messages, etc.). Staff members have no interest in hearing why you would rather not do it the standard TC way,' applies.

That means you don't do an extended self-justification about it, and you definitely don't imply that, because you've resolved it with the person you'd been talking to, hosts/staff should stay out of it.

The only reason I'm expressing this as a reminder, rather than issuing you a warning for arguing a mod call, is because Randall did post it as a suggestion, not as a moderation reminder/warning.

Second, it was not just 'a miscommunication based off of a generational language barrier.' It was you critiquing someone's spelling/grammar typography - which you continued to do even after my first reminder - because of your own misreading of it. Since it apparently wasn't clear the first time: do not criticize or deconstruct other users' spelling, grammar, typography, or usage. Any further instances of you doing so - and that includes what you might consider simply 'discussing' such things - will result in a formal warning.

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Re: Any pop culture pagans here?
« Reply #57 on: November 24, 2015, 02:41:12 am »
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I've been mulling this thread over for a while, and now I realize I might be a bit Pop Culture-flavored, myself. I tend to see the Beast from Over the Garden Wall as an aspect of Cernunnos (not exactly, but it's the best way to articulate it), and I've been trying to figure out how to work Welcome to Night Vale into my practice, as a lot of the quotes from the podcast resonate really strongly. OTGW actually holds a *lot* of personal significance for me, so I have incorporated bits and pieces of it into the things I do.

Something that helped the lightbulb pop on over my head when I was first getting poked to do Roadwork was actually Supernatural, which I find not at all strange.

I'm actually working on an Old Woman Josie 'Our Lady of the Angels' art piece right about now.

I need to go think more about this...

 
Dude, this sounds amazing. I'm obsessed with WtNV. I totally see the logic of drawing on it for pop culture Paganism. It has quite the... effect on people.

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Re: Any pop culture pagans here?
« Reply #58 on: November 24, 2015, 02:48:26 am »
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But I am seriously thinking about working with a villain, but I feel like I need some kind of protection before working with them. They are a macrabe trickster after all- and more importantly, I'd be working with them in their element where I'm currently 99.8% defenseless.

 
I work with Jadis, the White Witch from Narnia. Well... "work with" is an overstatement, since IME she's willing to accept distant veneration but not really much else. I started because a passing comment made me realize how connected she is to the myths of winter crones and Snow Queens in folklore. I don't experience her as deeply villainous - my approach to Narnia is that CS Lewis got most of the story wrong! - but more as a bringer of distant wisdom and understanding of power (especially in a self-sovereignty way).
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Re: Any pop culture pagans here?
« Reply #59 on: November 24, 2015, 07:56:39 am »
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I work with Jadis, the White Witch from Narnia. Well... "work with" is an overstatement, since IME she's willing to accept distant veneration but not really much else. I started because a passing comment made me realize how connected she is to the myths of winter crones and Snow Queens in folklore. I don't experience her as deeply villainous - my approach to Narnia is that CS Lewis got most of the story wrong! - but more as a bringer of distant wisdom and understanding of power (especially in a self-sovereignty way).

There's a apparently a motor in the back of my head going "but...but...but...but...but..." as my little brain can't really imagine a version of the story where the White Witch wasn't a villain, but am strangely intrigued by the idea anyway.
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