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Re: Any pop culture pagans here?
« Reply #30 on: November 19, 2015, 07:59:33 am »
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That's funny, I could've sworn I've seen you post in one of the other PCP threads. Of course, all of them were from a year and two back.

The term "Pop Culture Pagans" means somewhat different things to different people, I just wanted to know what the OP meant by it. It makes for less confusion is terms with varying meanings are defined early in the thread.
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Re: Any pop culture pagans here?
« Reply #31 on: November 19, 2015, 12:54:35 pm »
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So it's not weird that every time we watch Supernatural I think of you and Roadwork? (Or that when I listen to your 8tracks playlist I think of Supernatural?) ^_^

 
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Nope

Not weird at all :)
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Re: Any pop culture pagans here?
« Reply #32 on: November 19, 2015, 06:57:05 pm »
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I use magic seldomly. And when I do, it's not in your typical way. I rarely use items.

My focus is more on working with characters. Asking Twilight Sparkle to help me with friendship, for example. Or considering working with Bill Cipher for astral travel (that one probably warrants a new topic entirely.)


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From their perspective?
Technopagan/witchcraft?

 
I see...I definitely wouldn't identify as a PCP, since my practice is very magick-oriented.  What I mean by casting from their perspective is that I have casted spells from the pov of a fictional character that I identify with.  What actions would this character perform? What items would they use?  Things like that.  It can help me get into a meditative state when I'm having trouble with that.  

Technopaganism refers to paganism or witchcraft that uses technology.  Like all forms of paganism/magic, this could mean different things to different people like having a digital altar, casting spells through the internet or actually believing that technology has magical abilities.  I find it a really interested topic and have started playing with it, and so far it has been rewarding for me.  

You may want to start a group on PCP on this site.  It may help you connect with other PCP and/or spread the word about this to many who may be interested.

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Re: Any pop culture pagans here?
« Reply #33 on: November 19, 2015, 11:35:32 pm »
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I'm looking for pop-culture pagans here I can talk to.
Tumblr has the biggest community, but it seems more Pop-Culture Magic with a PCP founding. Plus, there's a "scattered" feel to it, probably due to all the online harassment.
And all of the "voices of reason" seem to be teenagers who act immaturely. Or rather, they try to act mature, but I don't think they're mature because I can see gaps. And I don't want to be part of a community where the people everyone turns to seem mentally younger than me- especially in a space where that's not required.

So yeah, the atmosphere is a lot calmer here. Any teens or adults that are PCP? What media do you incorporate into your religion?

I've done more MLP than anything, but it's weird- I'm not a part of the fandom anymore, but I still feel somewhat religiously inclined to it.
I've thought about incorporating Steven Universe pcm & maybe pcp.
Most recently, I've taken serious consideration into working with a Gravity Fall's character for the sake of spiritual development.
GF fans, you get no prizes for guesses XD

 
I consider my self a pop culture pagan it's just I haven't put it into practic yet but I already have an idea of spells I can create.

Because since I'm a major fan of anime, I'm thinking of making a spells based off of Lucy heartfelia star dress spell from the anime fairy tail to make a spell to manifest the qualities of her celestial spirits within me such as one spirit Leo the lion is the leader of the zodiac spirits so make a spell to manifest his confidence and leadership qualities within me.

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Re: Any pop culture pagans here?
« Reply #34 on: November 20, 2015, 02:10:59 pm »
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I'm looking for pop-culture pagans here I can talk to.
Tumblr has the biggest community, but it seems more Pop-Culture Magic with a PCP founding. Plus, there's a "scattered" feel to it, probably due to all the online harassment.
And all of the "voices of reason" seem to be teenagers who act immaturely. Or rather, they try to act mature, but I don't think they're mature because I can see gaps. And I don't want to be part of a community where the people everyone turns to seem mentally younger than me- especially in a space where that's not required.

So yeah, the atmosphere is a lot calmer here. Any teens or adults that are PCP? What media do you incorporate into your religion?

I've done more MLP than anything, but it's weird- I'm not a part of the fandom anymore, but I still feel somewhat religiously inclined to it.
I've thought about incorporating Steven Universe pcm & maybe pcp.
Most recently, I've taken serious consideration into working with a Gravity Fall's character for the sake of spiritual development.
GF fans, you get no prizes for guesses XD

 


I have a Faery Tales Spell book published by Lewellyn but I haven't used it. I guess I'm upset he wasn't able to create a spell around the Little Mermaid, lol.
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Re: Any pop culture pagans here?
« Reply #35 on: November 20, 2015, 04:07:28 pm »
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I'm looking for pop-culture pagans here I can talk to.
Tumblr has the biggest community, but it seems more Pop-Culture Magic with a PCP founding. Plus, there's a "scattered" feel to it, probably due to all the online harassment.
And all of the "voices of reason" seem to be teenagers who act immaturely. Or rather, they try to act mature, but I don't think they're mature because I can see gaps. And I don't want to be part of a community where the people everyone turns to seem mentally younger than me- especially in a space where that's not required.

So yeah, the atmosphere is a lot calmer here. Any teens or adults that are PCP? What media do you incorporate into your religion?

I've done more MLP than anything, but it's weird- I'm not a part of the fandom anymore, but I still feel somewhat religiously inclined to it.
I've thought about incorporating Steven Universe pcm & maybe pcp.
Most recently, I've taken serious consideration into working with a Gravity Fall's character for the sake of spiritual development.
GF fans, you get no prizes for guesses XD

 
Hi!

This isn't topic related, but I just wanted to let you know that I have dyslexia, so if you hit enter after every sentence in your post, it makes it difficult for me to follow along.  

If you wouldn't mind structuring your posts a little differently, I'd really appreciate it!
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I am in the camp that is concerned about super intelligence," [Bill] Gates wrote. "First the machines will do a lot of jobs for us and not be super intelligent. That should be positive if we manage it well. A few decades after that though the intelligence is strong enough to be a concern. I agree with Elon Musk and some others on this and don\'t understand why some people are not concerned."

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Re: Any pop culture pagans here?
« Reply #36 on: November 21, 2015, 07:32:14 pm »
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Oh, totally. I worked on Rick and Morty from the pilot to the second season, and I never read a single script - I only saw the animatics. If you're in production or a supervisor it's a bit different, but the grunts are there to do a job, you know? Generally an animator doesn't get to talk to the creators.
 

But...how do you lip synch? How do you get subtle emotional movements if you can't read the script?

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That's wonderful! And so, SO not for me. XD I have a friend in the industry who is about seven years younger than I am, and I have frequently had to explain to her that although I can appreciate the positive messages - especially in shows aimed at a younger audience, omg - it's not what I personally want in entertainment. I think that's why I wind up watching so many British comedies - the characters are usually horrible people.


The fact that you can't spell 'Steven Universe' or 'SU' right even once adds more compelling evidence to your disinterest.

...Betting that you like Game of Thrones & Hunger Games as well.


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Protection is certainly not a bad idea. I also think that with tricksters especially it's always a good idea to take a really serious look at the whys behind the desire to work with them. That's just been my personal experience, however, your mileage may vary



Been closely looking, pondering, and considering the whys. Still want to.


Now the question is HOW do I protect myself?

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 I like the idea of working with villains though, that sounds pretty enlightening.



Even when just watching media, I've found that you learn more from the villains than you do from the heroes. Which isn't what the media wants, considering all of the lessons heroes learn. And not necessarily in the "exemplary" way they want you to learn from the villains, either.
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Re: Any pop culture pagans here?
« Reply #37 on: November 21, 2015, 07:42:04 pm »
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Hi!

This isn't topic related, but I just wanted to let you know that I have dyslexia, so if you hit enter after every sentence in your post, it makes it difficult for me to follow along.  

If you wouldn't mind structuring your posts a little differently, I'd really appreciate it!

I don't hit enter after every sentence I post?


So what do you want?


I'm assuming more spaced out like this? Can I put sentences next to each other like this?
I'm guessing it's this little thing right here frustrating you, or am I wrong? Where, to me, there's a visual gap while still bring visibly part of the same paragraph.


I gotta paragraph, you know. I can't scrunch my sentences together. And giving extra leeway to give lots of extra space after every sentence seems...it makes me uncomfortable.


Another thing: I'm an Irlen lense wearer, I know that Irlen lenses sometimes help dyslexia patients read. You probably didn't care to have that info, but I feel duty-bound to spread it's awareness as it's pretty unknown while being common. Ciao.
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Re: Any pop culture pagans here?
« Reply #38 on: November 21, 2015, 07:47:38 pm »
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The term "Pop Culture Pagans" means somewhat different things to different people, I just wanted to know what the OP meant by it. It makes for less confusion is terms with varying meanings are defined early in the thread.

 
Well, now I'm curious as to what the other definitions are.
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Re: Any pop culture pagans here?
« Reply #39 on: November 21, 2015, 07:53:36 pm »
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I consider my self a pop culture pagan it's just I haven't put it into practic yet but I already have an idea of spells I can create.

Because since I'm a major fan of anime, I'm thinking of making a spells based off of Lucy heartfelia star dress spell from the anime fairy tail to make a spell to manifest the qualities of her celestial spirits within me such as one spirit Leo the lion is the leader of the zodiac spirits so make a spell to manifest his confidence and leadership qualities within me.

 
Ah, now that sentence was a tad hard for me to read xD  Part grammar, part ignorence of Fairytail. (Not too much though, I watched like, 3 episodes.)

Is it Lucy's Heartfelt Dress spell? And that will help you manifest the  qualities of the celestial spirits of hers?
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Re: Any pop culture pagans here?
« Reply #40 on: November 21, 2015, 08:05:00 pm »
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When I lived in Germany I used to go to this little hole-in-the-wall video store and I'd always talk to the owner. I only had my oldest two boys at the time, and they weren't even in kindergarten yet...anyways, we were talking about the kids and I jokingly said how fun it'd be to discuss religion with them when they grow up, but for now they only like comics books and Superman. The owner pointed out to me that for them right now, comic books and Superman were their religion.

 

I actually thought that it was somewhat well-known.

Well, then again, there are religious extremists that won't let their kids watch Harry Potter but'll let them read Superhero comics. And you didn't know either. Guess my assumptions were wrong.

I'm trying to think of how kids love their comics and how that compares to how adults do religion. Kids try to emulate their heroes, while adults may "work with" their deities or philosophy to become a better person. Media can be compared to religion because they obsess over them, but their are other ways to process religion.
I wish that Crack video comparing the two included religions other than Christianity.
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Re: Any pop culture pagans here?
« Reply #41 on: November 21, 2015, 08:38:47 pm »
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I've read something...about how comic book heroes might fulfill some archetypes necessary for something or other in life. ....religion as a way to: describe the world as it is, celebrate the possibilities of the world as it isn't, organize culture by supporting cultural values, and positioning people within the culture...it could be argued that comic books do all that. But I don't know, the fervor of enjoyment from suspending disbelief might not necessarily be exactly the same thing as belief. Although, the fervor or regularity of being a fan might be described as "religious".


Ack, I replied to their comment, having forgotten about yours. And said pretty much the same thing. Guess I should reply a little less. Oh well.


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More recently, I got to read an anthropological study called “Pocahontas Goes to the Clinic: Popular Culture as Lingua Franca" by Cheryl Mattingly, and if I read it right then it basically described how the Disney brand and Marvel (which is now also Disney), by their presence, symbolically as each character serves as a brand, or in conversation ice-breakers like "which is your favorite...?"--well, those seem to bridge other social strata, so hospital workers, umm...care more for patients who are of color or lowerclass. It's great that it does that, but of course I would have thought that people in charge of medical care ought to be caring for patients anyway especially if they're kids.  


The medical world, and definitely in the USA, has its problems. It's very classist. Poor patients, while at higher risk for nearly everything; still recieve less treatments, their options, and poorer care by their providers.
And classism can be seen an umbrella term that includes racism. And racism does extend to children.


Movies are something that seems to exceed class (except for homeless people or specifically-disabled people like me, who have few chances to watch one). Everyone is expected to watch the latest movie.
Movies are also the de facto-influencer in our society. This allows people between classes to get along with each other & have a common interest conversation.
And since children are also expected to watch certain movies, this extends past the ageist gap and allows kids to converse with adults, allowing the adults to humanize them and thus get better treatment.

(For the record, child & adolescent ageism is a huge problem these days.)
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Re: Any pop culture pagans here?
« Reply #42 on: November 21, 2015, 11:56:51 pm »
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I don't hit enter after every sentence I post?


So what do you want?


I'm assuming more spaced out like this? Can I put sentences next to each other like this?
I'm guessing it's this little thing right here frustrating you, or am I wrong? Where, to me, there's a visual gap while still bring visibly part of the same paragraph.


I gotta paragraph, you know. I can't scrunch my sentences together. And giving extra leeway to give lots of extra space after every sentence seems...it makes me uncomfortable.


Another thing: I'm an Irlen lense wearer, I know that Irlen lenses sometimes help dyslexia patients read. You probably didn't care to have that info, but I feel duty-bound to spread it's awareness as it's pretty unknown while being common. Ciao.


It's just a sentence will stop in the middle of the page.
But then you continue the next sentence right below. And that throws me out of whack.
 (Like this example of your writing style).


Because normally, an indentation before the margin indicates a paragraph break. Online there's usually spacing between these paragraphs rather than an indentation at the start of a new one. But you sometimes indent in the paragraph, and then also indent for paragraphs. This is hard for me because I normally skim the content for "key" words, and then once I understand the big picture of a post from those key words, I can reread and make sense of other words.

The difficulty is that the breaks in the middle of a paragraph structure (like the example of your writing above) cause my eyes to skip around, which throws off my ability to scan, and that throws off my ability to connect words with meaning. For some dyslexic people, even a double space after a period can throw off the ability to read the content.  It's often recommended that you left justify text for dyslexic readers and that you make the ending sentence of the paragraph shorter then the rest of the paragraph.

(Such as my last sentence there.)

Anyway, I just thought I would ask and you would either be willing or unwilling to write a bit more traditionally. It wasn't meant to come across as a critique.  If it's something that would cause you some difficulty then I definitely wouldn't want that.
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Re: Any pop culture pagans here?
« Reply #43 on: November 22, 2015, 12:50:12 am »
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The fact that you can't spell 'Steven Universe' or 'SU' right even once adds more compelling evidence to your disinterest.

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Hi, Aubren,

Just a reminder that '[a]ttacking a post based on typos [or] poor spelling' is a violation of our rules. Since the overall tone of your post is not 'attacking', this is only a reminder, not a warning - but we do take a dim view of people criticizing others' spelling/typing as if it proved a point about the content of their post.

(Incidentally, I could not find any instance of Mama Fortuna having misspelled 'SU' anywhere in the thread [and several in which she spelled/typed it correctly]. Were you referring to the post you quoted, where she said 'And so, SO not for me'? I'm pretty certain she was saying, 'And so, so not for me,' not, 'And so, SU is not for me.')

 
This is quite different from Juniperberry's request about your formatting, which she differentiated clearly from the content of the thread, explained in terms of its impact on her personally, and expressed as a request; the result was fully compliant with our rules.

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I don't hit enter after every sentence I post?

So what do you want?

I'm assuming more spaced out like this? Can I put sentences next to each other like this?
I'm guessing it's this little thing right here frustrating you, or am I wrong? Where, to me, there's a visual gap while still bring visibly part of the same paragraph.

I gotta paragraph, you know. I can't scrunch my sentences together. And giving extra leeway to give lots of extra space after every sentence seems...it makes me uncomfortable.

I'm going to try to clarify the issue here. Your threadstarting post is a particularly strong example of what JB is talking about, so I'll quote it, and mark the places (with a purple asterisk, like so *) where you've hit 'enter' after a sentence but not as a paragraph break.

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I'm looking for pop-culture pagans here I can talk to.*
Tumblr has the biggest community, but it seems more Pop-Culture Magic with a PCP founding. Plus, there's a "scattered" feel to it, probably due to all the online harassment. *
And all of the "voices of reason" seem to be teenagers who act immaturely. Or rather, they try to act mature, but I don't think they're mature because I can see gaps. And I don't want to be part of a community where the people everyone turns to seem mentally younger than me- especially in a space where that's not required.

So yeah, the atmosphere is a lot calmer here. Any teens or adults that are PCP? What media do you incorporate into your religion?

I've done more MLP than anything, but it's weird- I'm not a part of the fandom anymore, but I still feel somewhat religiously inclined to it.*
I've thought about incorporating Steven Universe pcm & maybe pcp.*
Most recently, I've taken serious consideration into working with a Gravity Fall's character for the sake of spiritual development.*
GF fans, you get no prizes for guesses XD

I'm not sure if this is what you mean by, 'to me, there's a visual gap while still bring visibly part of the same paragraph,' or not.

While it's not against the rules, and you're free to (politely) refuse JB's request, it does make your posts more difficult to follow; I have some trouble with it myself, and when there are two people having issues with a thing, there are likely to be more. So, if you choose to continue it, be aware that you may be closing out some part of your potential audience.

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Re: Any pop culture pagans here?
« Reply #44 on: November 22, 2015, 02:33:13 am »
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But...how do you lip synch? How do you get subtle emotional movements if you can't read the script?


Oh, that's all from the animatics. That's storyboards set with the vocals in a video file. So you do get to see what you're doing, but you don't like, get sent scripts ahead of time. Thankfully lip synch is not even my department. I work in builds.

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The fact that you can't spell 'Steven Universe' or 'SU' right even once adds more compelling evidence to your disinterest.

...Betting that you like Game of Thrones & Hunger Games as well.


Sorry, I capitalized 'so' for emphasis. I can see how that would be confusing, sorry. Let me try that again: so, so not for me. :)

Ehh, I actually don't like either of those. I'm not a high fantasy fan, and I think I'm too old and crotchety for the Hunger Games. Stories about young adults in general don't do it for me anymore - I get bored about halfway through the 'hero finds out what their purpose is' narrative and go to make gin and tonics. Nothing against young adult stories as a genre, it's just not my thing. I like horror, mostly.

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Been closely looking, pondering, and considering the whys. Still want to.

Now the question is HOW do I protect myself?


Awesome. And I would assume that you'd use the same precautions you would with any other spirit, yeah? Standard space-and-person cleansing, circle casting if that's your bag. If the character in question is more like a deity, I suppose you'd start work with offerings and gentle "hey, I'd like to get to know you!" acts. If it's a little more like a demon, why not go full goetic? Summon that shit into a triangle while you chill in a protective circle. I think however you choose to go about it will depend very greatly on your own personal practice and what you usually do for protection.

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Even when just watching media, I've found that you learn more from the villains than you do from the heroes. Which isn't what the media wants, considering all of the lessons heroes learn. And not necessarily in the "exemplary" way they want you to learn from the villains, either.

 
It probably also depends a lot on the type of media consumed, eh? A darkly noble villain in a blockbuster superhero movie might inspire us in spite of his flaws (or, heck, we might think he was in the right all along!) but you'll probably get less in terms of life lessons from a villain based on Henry Lee Lucas or something like that.

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